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I know,
but we could have done all that with scmi.
Oh well, it is what it is.
Sorry Alj,
While I understand (I think), why they had to do it (broke),
I agree with fly that there is no silver lining to this. The only
good reason, imo, for mmxt was the fact that it was reporting. Now were out 200M+ shares for nothing.
And let me save the bashers some time. No I'm not/haven't sold.
I've often said, I'm riding it out. I knew the risks when I bought, and have traded accordingly.
I don't.
Didn't say there were.
Just curious, if you can't get a return call,
and you're in Baghdad, how did you determine that there are two employees left??? A wild guess?
LOL! Sure.
NO.
Isn't a joke supposed to be funny?
What problem are you referring to fog?
I already did. You made a statement,
I just thought you'd want to back it up.
Really? Name a few.
Zstevek, it is my understanding that Eric
no longer works for the co. He had to take a job where he could get paid. And no, that wasn't a joke. Michal, on the other hand,
is (or at least was when I was there at the end of '06) one of the people still working without pay. I spent quite a bit of my time there with her as she was demonstrating the Octipod tech for me. I was told that Eric was still quite interested in the co/tech, and got the impression he'd be back in a flash if he could make a living at it.
This looks to be something that was developed while he was still
with the co?????
Thanks Sting.
Here's an interesting reply to Steve Jobs from a competitor:
To Steve Jobs and the Digital Entertainment Industry:
(written by Fred Amoroso, CEO & President Macrovision Corporation)
I would like to start by thanking Steve Jobs for offering his provocative perspective on the role of digital rights management (DRM) in the electronic content marketplace and for bringing to the forefront an issue of great importance to both the industry and consumers. Macrovision has been in the content protection industry for more than 20 years, working closely with content owners of many types, including the major Hollywood studios, to help navigate the transition from physical to digital distribution. We have been involved with and have supported both prevention technologies and DRM that are on literally billions of copies of music, movies, games, software and other content forms, as well as hundreds of millions of devices across the world.
There are four key points that I would like to make in response to your letter.
DRM is broader than just music –
While your thoughts are seemingly directed solely to the music industry, the fact is that DRM also has a broad impact across many different forms of content and across many media devices. Therefore, the discussion should not be limited to just music. It is critical that as all forms of content move from physical to electronic there is an opportunity for DRM to be an important enabler across all content, including movies, games and software, as well as music.
DRM increases not decreases consumer value –
I believe that most piracy occurs because the technology available today has not yet been widely deployed to make DRM-protected legitimate content as easily accessible and convenient as unprotected illegitimate content is to consumers. The solution is to accelerate the deployment of convenient DRM-protected distribution channels—not to abandon them. Without a reasonable, consistent and transparent DRM we will only delay consumers in receiving premium content in the home, in the way they want it. For example, DRM is uniquely suitable for metering usage rights, so that consumers who don't want to own content, such as a movie, can "rent" it. Similarly, consumers who want to consume content on only a single device can pay less than those who want to use it across all of their entertainment areas – vacation homes, cars, different devices and remotely. Abandoning DRM now will unnecessarily doom all consumers to a "one size fits all" situation that will increase costs for many of them.
DRM will increase electronic distribution –
Well maintained and reasonably implemented DRM will increase the electronic distribution of content, not decrease it. In this sense, DRM is an important ingredient in the overall success of the emerging digital world and especially cannot be overlooked for content creators and owners in the video industry. Quite simply, if the owners of high-value video entertainment are asked to enter, or stay in a digital world that is free of DRM, without protection for their content, then there will be no reason for them to enter, or to stay if they've already entered. The risk will be too great.
DRM needs to be interoperable and open –
I agree with you that there are difficult challenges associated with maintaining the controls of an interoperable DRM system, but it should not stop the industry from pursuing it as a goal. Truly interoperable DRM will hasten the shift to the electronic distribution of content and make it easier for consumers to manage and share content in the home – and it will enable it in an open environment where their content is portable across a number of devices, not held hostage to just one company's products. DRM supporting open environments will benefit consumer electronics manufacturers by encouraging and enabling them to create ever more innovative and sophisticated devices for consumers that play late running premium content from a number of sources.
As an industry, we can overcome the DRM challenges. A commitment to transparent, interoperable and reasonable DRM will effectively bridge the gap between consumers and content owners, eliminate confusion and make it possible for new releases and premium content to enter the digital environment and kick off a new era of entertainment.
At Macrovision we are willing to lead this industry effort. We offer to assist Apple in the issues and problems with DRM that you state in your letter. Should you desire, we would also assume responsibility for FairPlay as a part of our evolving DRM offering and enable it to interoperate across other DRMs, thus increasing consumer choice and driving commonality across devices.
In summary, we are on the verge of a transformation in home entertainment that can be as significant as the introduction of the PC into the home or the invention of the television. Already, consumer equipment manufacturers are introducing advancements in wireless connectivity and the interoperability of devices that are opening the door to new ways for consumers to acquire and view content from many sources.
With such an enjoyable and revolutionary experience within our grasp, we should not minimize the role that DRM can and should play in enabling the transition to electronic content distribution. Without reasonable, consistent and transparent DRM we will only delay the availability of premium content in the home. As an industry, we should not let that happen.
Thank you,
Fred Amoroso
CEO & President
Macrovision Corporation
http://www.macrovision.com/company/news/drm/response_letter.shtml
Doc, if it's not the bottom,
you can sure see it from there!
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending his actions.
If he is Mario, I can see no good thing about him posting here.
It just produces reactions such as yours. Next thing, no doubt,
HPO will have Mondo cut and paste it over on RB so they'll have something new to ridicule.
I don't know if he is or not.
In case you hadn't noticed, you post here anonymously. Even if he was, is he now? I don't know. Do you?
There was nothing definitive about his statement. Hints and innuendo. "...I like what I see!" That's your insider info?????
He hasn't been lying to me. Whoever he is. I haven't talked to Mario. Ever. Have you been talking to him the past few months?
The point is, you are apt to be dramatic.
No, I think you're funny.
Somebody who claims to be connected to the co, comes by and posts some ambiguos crap, and you're ready to go ballistic.
Did they?
Because he said so? LOL!
Mario.
No. He would have to buy or sell based on that info.
You should know that.
Yep.
If you have no link,
or other proof, then this would not be "fact" at all, but innuendo, or false allegation, yes?
Kenny, could you please post a link to this info?
I've not seen where anyone else was using MM5.
Thanks in advance, sir.
OT. No foggy, I'm not.
Nor am I Scott, Bill, Mario, or anyone else employed by the co in any form.
I disagree with your condemnation
of Peter based on this:
"Although problems can be expected in all software, it is the continued denial by Peter that there were issues with MediaMax and everything would be fine if it wasn't for XCP that makes me believe he is not the right person to run a company."
I think Peter is quite correct in that assessment.
I completely disagree.
There were no major problems with MM6 that I've seen. It was indeed XCP that caused the uproar. If you think otherwise, post the info that identified problems with mediamax that were not addressed with the patch. There is a very good reason ours were not recalled and XCP was. You may have a legitimate gripe with Peter, but that one is not, IMO.
I've not heard any rumors,
I thought you had from your post. My impression of bleu's post was that he was dispelling the "rumor" that copy protection in any form couldn't be employed. I've not heard anything about anyone using it, but there's nothing I've seen to prevent it being used, other than those ver. specifically cited.
What rumors are you referring to?
That, as they say, is the $64 question, Doc.
It can indeed.
And what do you base this guess on, kenny?
See my previous response.
You are certainly welcome to your opinion.
No, I won't dignify the hatchet job by continuing to give it "airtime", except to say that there are, as I stated, some truths there which were greatly embellished to try to make his article seem legit. The article is ancient history (2005) and the writers intention only to attack DRM in general, and Sunncomm specifically because of the DRM. I haven't seen any follow up from this author, nor has there been any action from the SEC which seems most probable if the writers case was a solid as he makes it seem.
Foggy, in the future if you want to spam an article that has already made all the message board rounds, it would be helpful if you included a link. This would be helpful in knowing the date of the article and the source. This particular article has it's roots in the anti-drm movement which inludes such folks as JDA, Halderman, EFF, etc. It also includes several opinions stated as fact, states one side of posts made on message boards without reference to the differing posts made on the same boards, and in some cases outright falsehoods. There are some facts included, basically just enough to keep some folks interested.
I fail to see any relevancy on this board as
there is no info availible nor will there be until/if it goes to court. I suggest you contact Mr. Clement and/or MMXT.
Deals inked on bar napkins have held up in court.
What's your point?
You're up kind of late tonight.
Foggy, this will be my last comment to you on this topic.
I was told the top 4 had NOT BEEN PAID for several weeks. Not reduced pay. NO pay. Why? In order to pay the development folks and still keep the doors open. Whether you believe it or not, frankly, concerns me not a whit. These folks have a vested interest in whether the company succeeds or not. They are not working for nothing out of the goodness of their hearts. Have they deferred it? Possibly. I didn't ask.
You're entitled to your opinion.
Do you have some proof, or just more ranting?
Not outsourced,
I was introduced to the guy, but I don't remember his name. He's been there awhile, and has been involved in most of the new products.
As for salaries, the top 4 folks aren't being paid. Everyone else is being paid with the proceeds from private placements as the need arises. That's what I was told.
Yes. When I was there, they told me
Eric had left. Financial decision on his part.
Merry Christmas from Virginia!
SCREAMINEAGLE.