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kenolova,tbrays and others thank you for your stand on your view point.
And jazz1 thanks for your untiring input.
Can we agree that what ever happened with lken was not ...right.
And who did it.......Can we say lenny?
Now when you jazz1 show a cheque made to you by lenny signing himself as CEO of inkwayusa.
What is it telling to the world at large.
Is he distancing himself from LKEN, Greene concepts and that lken no longer exists or it does not profit him any more?
And what a beauty,this peace offering.Justifies why you are held in such high esteem.
Lets hope Duane also reciprocates by getting rid of his platter.
Thanks.But what would the book keeper be doing,may be order taking,or shipping receiving printing the thin films with quantum dot,cutting them up for medical applications,answering enquiries.
Why did some body say we dont have an office,they got to operate from some base.
May be we will get some answers when the management decides to say some thing about coming out of stealth and start doing real production and sales.
We hold and wait and pray.
Very good observation as usual,Mr. Crunch,some people dont know or under stand what kind of a "gem"they are holding wish they could benefit from the high level of dd availble on this board,this stock may have a bright future if and when the company decides to come out of "stealth",
may be thin film solar product,made with patented continuous flow process...to go on some houses or rooftops or,Rice Parking lots or any where so people can see that company exists,Saudi Arabia is too big for a conceptual state company with no prototype.
Quantum dots may sell when there may be a market.
Till than may be people will sell what ever they can at what ever price they can get.
Only products will sell the company.
Not dd or promotions or positive attitudes,
Why not ask the company to produce.......Or is "Stealth"still the only viable option,and we wait..........till 2015, 2020,2030 and management paid performance bonuses and reasonably.Do we need all those people for stealth mode.While people lose faith...down..down.
11.45 am,
........bid... .063
........Ask... .0765
......Volume.. 0
No Takers.........why?
We are doing all we can to give such high level of dd
what the future will be
So many people claiming they are going to add and add.
Do we really have a five star hotel?
How about Ink Think Tank another sub division with it own president,vp and other related officers to coordinate the activities ideas future planning etc etc.
A reasonable analysis of the situation based on sound judgement,thanks ,invesdebator.
Solar express, Let me throw an olive branch.If it happens it will be good for every body.
Some people may have inside knowledge to be so confident about the out come.But being a small fry I am not privy to that so I comment on only what I see.
And what I see,increasing sells and falling prices.
When people are so confident about the stock,prices should be going up.....not DOWN.
And when people are attacked in an organised manner, that is not right.
So they have to fight back even if they have no intetion to do that.
So it would be best for every body to stay within limits,every body respectful even of opposing point of view.
and it looks like people are taking your advice
they are selling as much as they can and at the lowest price.
Besides all that popping up.
So it seems if people will stop the misinformation it will be good for every one.
People bought into qtmm thinking it could stand on its own.
Unsubstantiated claims about future only make things look bad.People do have a good understanding of what is going on.
They know who is doing what,if they believe I am way out of line they will ignore me with out any body telling me to sell.
Thanks for your enlightening discourse on things ,quantum.
Congratulations for having worked out the problems.
There are such beautiful posts about qtmmm,promotions recommendations but;
SALES.....28000+
BUYS......1100........AT .075.... FALLING ..EVERY DAY.
Could IT BE PEOPLE REALISE or have started asking themselves or see a clear attempt to suppress valid questions that all may not be well in graceland.AS much ado about nothing.
Too many good word about something that is not producing anything can do more harm than good.
Why would people be in a hurry to sell at what ever price they can get.
So why not get real and slow down in praises people can see let them decide.
Hi kenolova
Nice to see your response,what do you feel about a V.P. for Greene Concepts Incorporated.Hope fully we have a President and V.P. for Accubrite,than another President and V.P. for Ink usa.
So it seems the organisation is set up with big plans for the close ones,once these well heeled officers develope market ,may be they will hire production workers and accounting people and or CFO...who would know something about business end,as nochance2winbig has pointed out so many times.
And it may also explain partly, why so many different names are needed.
It is not just an idle curiosity that I bring this thing up.
What is the first thing you see about LKEN,Click greene concept.
Freeink4life ad,than
TV....presentation
More freeink for life adds
ink usa ads.
What is one supposed to make of this presentation.
There are more company names than the employees in the company.
What kind of image does this project.Besides the thinge I already mentioned.
You make me realize that I have said enough on the subject but hope others might support me about validity of this point.Peace.
let us hope we can say what is on our minds respectfully.
I have been deffering to INK USA because you reddyfool and others contributed to it.
I hope it works out for your sake.
Unless there is a clear cut understanding,these different names have only one purpose.
... to try to hide things at different places.
Genuine companies doing honest business do not do it.
Lennys dealing so far are suspect at best,if he want to come clean all things should be transparent.
They are simply trying to get free money,it may be innovative,but not a sound business practice.Have you seen it done before.Without offence or prejudice.
jazz-1,
You eternal optimist how you come back with your perennial infective optimism.So you want to nudge the boss with an attack from another angle.
Setting up priorities.
Attending Angels meeting.
for this Lenny may need audited financials Ks,Qs filed and fully compliant,requiring considerable expense.Than financing if IF IF
available,may be good.
This lack of financials may also be the stumbling block for Founders programme.
A company is useful only.....if it is producing.....
without a product being produced ....it is a liability..a failure.
So if the company has any money left,to meet those orders ,it should forget every thing else just concentrate on that,generate income.It also provides for name recognition free advertisng.And hopefully we donot use names lightly we stick to a name if people like INK USA than use this one and drop others.register the company as such.
q24,
Thanks for your kind words your posts have been good too we are holding it because we feel ,
1.It is a genuine company.
2.Has a product.
3.Has a market.
4.Market is of a permanant nature,may be there for quite some time.
5.A company a facility that has all the certifications to bid for international companies of reknown,such big names with prestege.
6.Management has belief in what they are doing,they are putting their futures on stake by sticking with the company.
...they are at a sink or swim....status with this company.
6. At .oo14 what more do you want.Lowest point. or even if not.
Once it weathers this attack and storm and you have a long term horrizon.
We coexist with those with short term plans let them enjoy,we will soon be in 2013.,,,and may be .02...05 even .1 or.GLTA
Times are such people need work,if I am out of job and have been for a while,and some body says sit here and keep posting like this would I have a choice,especialy if it is not illegal.
Let them have their say without being disrespectful,they are human being.They might choose to come back and convey their regrets.
Every body knows but they have their reasons for doing it.It is a free country,so let them do it.
If you have faith hold on risk/reward quotient,may favour those with confidence in mwwc.
Where will people get this price for a stock thats withheld this vicious attack,in production and increasing sales.
Management having the courage to take unpopular decision for starters.
jazz -1,
looks like people decided to listen,but the eerie silence may be getting to them unnerving and counter productive.
We may be charged with cruelity to animals?
Some one may ask,why are you beating this carcass,can we in all sincerity say no,it is a horse we are just trying to make it get up.
People like you, jazz-1,reddyfool,rsr keith,malekabal and others could really do a lot for lken.
Where are the resources?
What will motivate Lenny?
Jazzs proverbial lady could do a lot?
wasnt that a brilliant suggestion from nc2wb.As you point out experience to students who want to do summer jobs and recent grads
coming into job market.
Even the Government has plans which subsidize such job market entrants and other goverment help to those creating jobs.
What an idea a disgruntled rich lady?Logic at work.
Since lenny has lost faith in human nature.He has seen people betraying the trust,he is not giving out any info ,we dont even know whether any activity is going on at lken,are there any employees left.He may be devastated and disgrutled.
And out of money.where is money coming from?
That also raises the point where did the money go?
He had about 2.43 billion shares roughly 78% of lken,if 2 billion could have been sold any where from .0004-.18, say an average of .007,And boughe back 2 billion at 100,000/-to still give a 51% contl.Two billion shares,sold .007 bought .0001.Or other slight variations.
So money may be there but lenny may be unable to use it,even to generate lot more income and for all times to come.He made things happen but success still not there.Human nature.
Denise you may be mistaken,he may not be implying any thing he may just be saying politely that bringing in dirt on this board is against the policy.
Nano guys may be small but they may grow tremendously in a short period,they have the know how and medical uses of quantum dots have a huge future and we qtmm as suppliers stand to gain immensely.
So many people here know that future of medicine will be changed when our continuos flow printing rolls out in near future.Targeted administration to cancer cell,supply of therapeutic agent directly to targeted tissues,lists go on and on.
This is a board of like minded people where we come to discuss the good things that will happen when the products of qtmm will have a huge market.
Some peole may have misguided notion and they think they can come and whine here.We are confident people when we make a decision we do not look back. products or no products we know and pv19 tells us that the flood gates of production are about to open.Those who are afraid are welcome to stay away and sell as some body told me recently.
NC2wb,Hats off to you,your creative juices are in full flow today.That is an excellant suggestion.
I was thinking on similar lines.Even though hard to comprehend and but/if practicable.There may be people who have their money stuck in there.Company makes arragement board and lodge JAZZ-1 has cosiderble money tied in and a few others(just an example)
Capable and willing men how much their shares will be worth @.01,.02,.05..01 after another year or two.They get paid perfomance bonuses =compny share for work done(details to be worked).If succesful would they make that kind of money else where.
Future with the company.OR freedom of choice.
Desperate times Can be overcome with innovative choices.
shido rsr reddyfool myself malekabal, kenolova, jazz1 and so many others had been insisting on financial filling and you putting the solid reason where the money will come from so people backed of a bit,but shido was still insisting that this is important.
May be now every body realises,that lken cannot proceed any further without financing .
Financiers will require ks qs and compliance
Cost of financing may kill the company.
Raising o/s may be suicidal.
Lenny know,a lot,leaned a lot
cannot trust people
even when he hires people,they dont work ,run away with money or shares.
Both your post today very good give an incentive to start the ball rolling again,difficult situation let us see who comes up with a solution or possibility.
yeah nc2wb your assesment and your comments in previous post were so on the mark,but what can be done other than agree with malekabal.
Exercise in futility.Do you see any hope.
To bid for MEGA projects in Saudi Arabia even before companies can submit tenders there will be whetting of companies,to show;
1.work done on past projects,
2.what kind of g.watt plants installed.
3.what kind of problems arose,companys ability to handle them.
4.Financials of the compny.
How does Solterra answer those question,does it have even a single house supplied with its panels.Is its production side capble of supplying its need.
Coupled with the stealth approach,is it a valid question to ask,or is it plot by doubters to discredit qtmm.
yes rsr1146,
that is my concern too,if we are going to do any thing why not have every thing clear and open,no ambiguities no hidden stuff,they have incorporated as greene concepts,lken ,so operate it as such. If now they dont like this name let tham change into what ever they want and stick to that.
They will have different departments working under them,will they name each depatment under different names.
Welcome back shido,hope you are free from journey fatigue.You know jazz 1,has done a lot of work in bringing this interest back to lken and he deserves all the credit that we owe him for it.
So many people with different,agendas some want quick cash so they dont bother who gets hurt,so what is the health of the company,created confusion.
How to sift through misinformation.
May be just go back to basics why people bought in the first place
product,and its need.
No doubt company concentrating more power to itself,would they gain more by succeeding or by doing underhand things.
Even more work is adding to financial needs of the company,because of expenses and they getting money back in 90 days.
So just make up your minds.
There may not be an immediate gain.
Are you willing to stick around,this current assault may not have a long life,if so they will soon be looking for the exit door.
Only time will tell.And hope we made a right decision.
Risk/reward.
Thank you very much for this valuable info,like a good MC it ties in the importance of solar and Saudi Arabia in the development of Solar energy ties it in nicely to Dr.Jabbour.
And Dr.Jabbour and qtmm.
Dr.J is a preeminant scientist in this field.He does not need qtmm.Suppose authorities ask him to decide on the project for installing solar unit,with ful authority.
What will he do,invite qtmm? on what grounds.how will he justify it,He will rather make sure he distances himself beyond doubt from qtmm.Thats partly from the often touted,stealth,qtmm has nothing to show or offer for solar dreams not even a prototype to go and show to others.Not even a panel hooked up to a volt meter or a heater to make a cup of coffee.
hi dockzef,
Normally one would expect a follow up on that post.Many on this board have reached that point,too many posts as you mention are being removed under blanket,off topic.
Solar express has very kindly informed that moderators are not on qtmm payroll.This misconception might have occured because PV19 may have passed on ss instructions to the board faithfuls in a rather direct manner.So the matter is clear moderators are not paid they simply lend a helping hand to the CEO.
If some people feel that qtmm may not be what ever is being portrayed shouldnt they be free o say what they feel without being attacked by Crunch/Trevor team.
Every body bought this stock on their own free will,why should anybody ask them to sell.
Lastly,why so quite ,hope you havent been banned or can the moderators tell if he has been banned,hope one can ask this question without violating any rules.
Where is this full blown attack coming from.Looks like they are out for a kill.
1.product is there ,has a market,weathering the storm.
2.blaming the management,which is stream lining,to meet all challanges.what will they get if mwwc goes down the drain at .001,where will they be if they can take it to.10,more shares performance bonuses.
3.so why not stick around and add to compensate for needed dilution.
May be lenny was doing business as Accubrite and used that name with Fresno authorities.But with organisation of LKEN this should disappear.
INK USA is it a publically incorporated or even registered with local tax office I have no interest to follow.Does it have a legal existance at all,cannot comment on that.
So you see legal name for lken is greene concepts,why bring in confusion with other names ,why not clarify why these different names are needed.
Just to clarify my point so that there is no ambiguity,what I suggest is ,GREENE CONCEPTS,as in LKEN.Retails sales by greene concepts.No connection to INKWAY USA.
How inkway usa works is for it to decide,if it want to be a no name marketing unit responsible for CDM in greene concept frame work.
That way there will be no divided loyalities.Most of us here want what is best for lken,and what ever can help lken,things clear and transparent.Companies do have synegistic relationships with other companies but with clearly under stood and well defined roles.
Ihubbers please help decide how should these deal with each other.LKEN and inkusa.
Putting things in stores is a retail function,has nothing to do with cdm so should show lken or greene concepts only.
You say both sides are sensitive now.
Thats your assesment of the situation.Share holder feel the way they do and reasons have clearly been delineated.
What are they sensitive about?
Let them demand satisfaction for any wrong done to them,let them list these as;
1.
2.
3
4'
5.
and so on.
That is the way reasonable people settle their differences.Bring up your grievances and seek ways to resolve them.imaginary or perceived slights vs trueth
Trueth shall set you free,is a very sound advise.It might hurt the useless ego ,but can be a good starting point.
jazz-1,
You dont have to explain any thing to me,in my book you are ok,which gives you the freedom to tell me as what ever you feel,no offence.since non is meant.we may differ from time to time.
Can we agree that consumer is the king in the market,we need to provide the product when, where, in what form he needs it.
Now suppose Founders plan succeeds beyond the wildest dreams.CDM gets a big boost,ads using all media outlets,what would be the cost of those ads;
Ink refil kits toners....$59/-
Shipping handling
Next day delivery ......$29/-....59+29+taxes=over $88/-
.within a week..........$19/-................over $78/-
In mosr places you can go get inkjet refilled depending on location for 10,15 max 20/-
How succesful we may be.They may try it, cb posted about wiki mlm results have been questionable at best.
You say people should contact L & D directly,it is ok to believe that they are very busy important people but I live on this planet called earth where people walk on ground so I call it as I see it without any disrespect or prejudice.
If they are that busy thinking about the wellfare of LKEN,do you see any signs of anything having been done in ....when was it any body saw anything done or said by Lenny.
So what I meant to say is he is not doing any thing,so no need to put him on a pedestal he just looks at the screen and like every body else reads every thing written on this board.
And he chooses to be silent as it suits him fine.He is happy with his sacks,full.
I seem to agree with malekabal42,he sums it best,
........ Exercise in futility.
That is the reason almost every body here has been asking for clarification about;
1.LKEN...Greene Concepts..drop other names...Clarity.transparency.
2.Fix the share structure...So it looks respectable,genuine.
3.fulfill listing requirements....accoutability,compliance.
4. Remove non compliant notice.
People who ask these questions are not enemies they are real friends giving sound input.WE are at .0001,zero volume due to lack of credibility.Above action may be steps in right direction to fix this credibility problem.
Now even if they go to those meetings what will they say.WE are lken,greene concepts ,accubrite freeink4life,inkusa asking money for ...which company to do what.
this is our past,we dont want to be compliant for strategic reasons.
Who will believe,this kind of story.They know what they are doing and just talking to us to while away the time.If this inkusa thing continues this may show their real interest,free money without accountability.Give me a sound reason why should people join it.
Just one deal with one company like some others.they owed that much on that date and made a mutually agreable deal.
You are a respected voice on this board,you have done your dd.Let us look at it from another perspective.
Asher is willing to risk its 47500/-for 410 million shares par value .00001.If the share fall to that price ....end of game.
In real world Asher will get a price that will be at the time of conversion,say if .001...4.1 million shares,how fatal that can be.
Your voice is important since it is reasonable.Let us see why this a/s.May be;
mwwc had its problems,now even it has orders,auto industry improving,BUT, to meet those orders they need...money and more ;
over heads
mateials for production
labour for production
mortgages on plant and equipment
Money comes back with a delay of 60-90 days.
So even new orders and rfqs are a drain on the company resources for the time being.Once the money inflow improves...
Or at least show signs of life?