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Hi Vawedo my friend , you are right , someone can post here as much warnings as as possible ... it wont help.
Taking the Cbrad`s figure of 8,5 shares , sold by Genta direktors , in comparison to estemated 32+Mio shares the last 2 days makes clear that about every 4th share , traded the last 2 days , came exactly from them. Isnt that figure enough?
25% of all sold shares !! Guys , what has this volume to do with tax issues? ...but vawedo ,I am not stopping posting my personal point of view in this board, just because this board is exactly made for exchanging infos. Since Genta purchased in early 2002 the key patent from a polish scientist, they made their way. 3 RS have been taken place,and from this 2002 till today , Ray degenerated from a scientist to a greedy, uncorrect copy of a human....not to mention his failure as a CEO.
Merry Christmas to you too , but I am sure we have contact before that. "Ohh Tannenbaum , ohh Tannenbaum ...wie grün sind deine Blätter ..." hahahahaha sing it !!!
BG
Hi Smitter, the pps in the near future will prove that your general asumption of falling pps is likely - if not true.
And at the end of the day we get what we want ...an reentrypoint which make sense ...using comon sense
Good night folks , tanti saluti a tutti !
BG
ok dragon , lets settle it this way
BG
Dragon , that was not my point ...if you have to pay taxes , what do you use to do your duties ( paying taxes )? Do you take your cash , to spare valuable shares ( because you expect them to jump up ) or do you take your shares , just because of present situation you have the knowledge that in the near term there is no rising of your shares to be expected .
That was my point . So to my interpretation they through over board what is less valuable in terms of a future pps perspective.
Thats what I wanted to say with my comment.
Cheers , BG
Stockbuilder , I agree with you in allmost all points as well as with Roger .... but answer me just one question : Did FDA show up yes or no ? If so , would you think the shareholders deserve an update on that ? I think yes , we do !
BG
Hi poorme , I am sitting in the german mountains , I know what a snowstorm is like , coming back to the point.
I have no problem that CVM keeps the area where this thing is located, really not. I have a problem with the information policy of CVM. I slightly doubt that the " coldfilling " issue is the point, but I can not argue against it because I am european so I have no knowledge about FDA regulations towards that.
What I know is that in no way someone needs 2 years to build a facility ( leaving away that it has been an existing furniture storage - so no new construction )and got no singel sheet from the FDA till now. Thats the point which makes me upset. I do not care what AF digs out , he is not my source of gathering infos for my DD , but I am deeply desturbed about the questions around FDA , Multikine etc ...at least they could have started to produce Multikine in the way they did before , means in their lab . Look at the time we lost !!! In this time they could have produced enough to start enrollment. Forget the whole LEAPS story for AH1N1 , focus on Multikine , how did they manage to go throu phase II while not having this facility ? They made it in their lab, where else ?
BG
Amen Roger, Amen...it would be nice
Hi dragon , good evening.
If there would be a tax issue ... why selling all these preciouse shares now , when they had been 10 times more in Value 3 month ago ...or was it uncertain how much taxes they have to pay in Sept.? Someone who earns about 1 Million $ with his wife , usually knows - at least at a rough figure - what amount of money he has to pay to the taxbox at years end .... and now you come forward at the 19th dec. and tell us that Ray & company sold 10 times more of shares they had to sell to reach this amount which they could have gathered in September selling a tenth of it ????
With all respect buddy .... that doesnt fit
BG
Hi Roger ,
again dont get me wrong , but since Vince ( Vince stock house ) was invitet to visit this place - at lest to my knowledge - there was nothing substantial anounced by CVM. An aproval of such a facility doesnt happen over night ... there you are right.
An aproval starts with comparing the building permission with the reality ( i.e , had been everything been constructed the way it was permitted ) , Than the guys from the firedepartment come and have a look if there are enough escapedoors etc ..the whole securitystuff.
After both issues passed successfully , you get an interims note . Than the FDA comes and takes a look , first basically , issues like hygiene , material proof ( i.e. inox instead of aloy etc ) , how ever you recieve from each day a memo which tells you what had been visited , what had been critisised and so on .... one more time no offense at all ...but would you as a shareholder care to have such an anouncement to the shareholders like " boys and girls ...the FDA payed us a visit ...we are now in the aproval procedure " ...hmmm ?
Well, that would make me feel good ...I have enough trust that an american contractor knows what they build ... there my faith is unbroken. Just my opinion.
Cheers, BG
Hi Smitter ,
a leak is a leak, that alone doesnt point guilt on Ray ... I have 2 MDs in my family ...Genta was a frequent issue among us , but after the leak was out , the real desaster started , look from the 29th of sept. how much time he wasted watching the pps dropping into a big black hole.No story about the rest of the positive asumptions just a fluffy -Raylike- sentence about " all other results numerically favour the Genta arm " , no connection to the older 301 study prior to Agenda .... no relation between LDH and the general outlook ... but at RODM show ( 2 weeks earlier )...there he could talk like a waterfall ... that unprofessional reaktion f..cked me off ... when my company is burning I show a bit more comitment , be available , talk to my shareholders , take responsibility.... give a perspective what will be etc etc etc .... nothing , tail between the legs and hide away ...thats Ray " the rat " ...a poor failed egomane ....far away from being an example of a real CEO .... and thats my opinion .
Learning this was as sweet as drinking a liter of battery accid.
BG
Hi 4key, it is not a negative sentiment without reasons , or how would you explain that a leak comes out at night , when Agenda had been dubble blinded and the results , after unblinding from the IMB , had to be delivered straight forward to Rays hands ? So how was it possible that from IMB to Ray ...it made its way to the internet ? That is one reason why the board`s sentiment is " negative " .... for example someone cuts off my ear ...and than has the nerve to ask me how painfull it is .
BG
Honda, thank you !
BG
Hi Roger , no offense at all man , but I am a projectdeveloper ... ok , things may go different in the US rather than in Germany , but after finishing the facility ( and its not a big one ) I have problems to believe that it is a FDA issue .
Regarding possesion ...you mean our CVM is now the owner of this place ? No more rent to pay ? Is this what you mean ?
English is not my native language , so I may missunderstand you.
Again, no offense intended.
BG
Hi good evening , Honda ...could you tell me where you got the 120 Mio figure ...that would realy interest me for my DD.
Thank you
BG
Hi smitter , ...got rid of mine .
Have a great evening .
BG
Gentlemen , maybe someone can answer me this question:
Who pays / compensate the losses for the delay of the facility?
CVM rents the space/facility from the landlord ( who is not CVM ).
Who is responsible for that , no facility , no revenues for cold filling , delay in Multikine production delays the test phase III , so,who ist it ? The company who build the technical installation and could not hand over an approvable result in timely manner ...who ?
I mean you do not pay a company who doesnt finish the job well ...or at least you request compensation for the delay.CVM pays rent for something that is not working untill today. I send an email to CVM more than 2 weeks ago , asking for an answer to that ... nothing, not even a " thank you for your concerns ".
So , are we shareholders paying for something that is not working?
I am in CVM since summer ,in July we were told 3 month to go , than , after that, the 4.Q was the new date of opening ...well , what comes next ?
Cheers , BG
I mean , look at the volume ... as if there is no tomorrow.
Well, we soon will hear who sold , if there is insiderselling it should be reported after 48(?) hours to the SEC .
Bg
Hi, forgive me , I am rather sceptical for the near term , so of course I wish you more than 0.20 by all means.
This said , I will be silent and watch ... the rest of my shares are sold I feel relieved , I have a big smile on my face... everything is fine for me.
Good luck , I cross the finger for everyone.
BG
got rid of my 10.3k @ 0.18.5...never thought I could get out with that pps.... so ...now lets see what the last days in Dec. may bring.
Good luck to all.
BG
a bit more precise ...what you mean
Hi cbrad , Ray said that due to employeecuts and other reductions ( not his payments of course ) they can go on till end of 2.Q 2010.That would mean that end 1.Q a solution for that problem should be fixed and signed. You know what ? Thats less than 115 days ... really not that much .The most interesting question is how will he collect money /financing in this short periode of time to prevend real problems.
BG
I like to keep it simple ...no news result the pps we have seen and will see.
What could come ? Genasense / Overal survival ? ...too early . Tesetaxel ? No Phase III , so do not count on that . ATG-study ? Yes, maybe ( a big maybe because its a small testdesign with only a few patients enrolled ) What story may come first next year ? The Ganite story.Why ? Because Ray brought this CF-story of the university of Washington into the game . Will he dress that stuff up .OF COURSE he will . He is not dump , he needs a story ( even a little one ) to make a big thing out of it. Anything left to say ? Nope. No news ... pps goes down. Why are Ray , Loretta , Watson , Von Hof etc etc selling ? Just for tax issues? Sure , and Santa comes on roller blades this year. LOL , would be cool to see . Hoo Hoo
BG
to-your-health ...welcome in the US ...you are allowed to express what ever you want as long its true
Bg
to my knowledge 0.10 is the black zero for them ....
Hi , why you think so , I had the impression , and still have it that it is a set up to get the noteholders and the Genta board a chance to get out of their stocks , but we will see it in the 4.Q report .
Good luck
BG
Ornate , I have a nice list of failures of Genasense beginning from 2003- its just too depressive to post it here, ...and still I believe this substance works ...but simply not with Dacarbazine , thats the issue ...again and again Tests , than NDAs ..than rejection of FDA ... man ...when will Ray understand that it doesnt work that well ....ATG-study tells a different story ... and???? Noooo , continue with Dacarbazine ...like banging your head allways against the same wall ...
we will see , tomorrow we will hear , who of the direktors , sold again today, LOL ...and all this theatre for nada ...
BG
welcome in the club , I have 10.3k left ... so i just watch the show.
BG
I do not want to spoil the party , but the air is thin at this level...a lot of day trader made a nice profit today , soon as the first sunstantial sellorders come in , you will see it decine with similar speed .... and tomorrow we will read who of the direktors has sold again
Again , I think that was a joined set up....dont ask me from whom , ...just my opinion.The earliest news are to be expected in Jan ...and it will be the Ganite-story.
Good luck too all.
BG
Trading nearly stopped ... soon it goes backwards
BG
Guys , with all respect , take the profit befor it is too late , dont be blinded by such a game .... can only shake my head. This evening will be more people cooked than have before.
Just my opinion ...
Good luck !!
BG
Hi Nutri ...nope ...I do not consider that for real ... neither real money nor any pos news ... the volume is too small for a leak ... the single orders are to small reagarding this pps , and I also do not see any reason why Tese or any other genta drug / substance should have any new direction.
I may be wrong ...and would be happy for anyone who makes money on this ...but nope ... not that I am a blockhead , but to my knowledge there is no recent event that would provide any news.
The sharehoulders are dried out desperate for any pos. sign and therefor I regard this as a set up ...a false head... we will see around noon if it continues or breaks down because of a lack of demand
So, again those who make money ... congrats ... its that simple.
BG
...and there comes the next one ....Jeee
BG
Hi smitter , a classical false head ...nicely prepared at the end of yesterday to raise expectations .... what a bunch of .... , are they so desperate that they need these tricks ? My oh My .... hope not too many got hands burned ...
Good luck to you all.
BG
You are right shaka , but when you know the game and the timing of them ...than you can see with what kind of instrumentario these M...f...ers work to squeeze really the last cent out of it .
And this is an indication that the Genta pps will remain falling ...just because the MMs are that desperate to use even this kind of " tricks "
Sigh , there is no love among humans except in this thread
bye all ...need to watch euro league soccer , BG
Nice false head ...what a bunch of A$$h...s , trying to fool the little guy once more .... , a lightning shall hit them sitting on the morning toilett !!
BG
hehehehehe , yeah , know what you think .... from now on its only 3.90$ to thinkfish`s target price .....
BG
LOL ...Shaka look , Thinkfish is buying all he can ....yeahhh supersize me! LOL
BG
Hi navy , yes , exactly thats what I am talking about
a post from adriano24 - mod of our german thread - .... interesting how nicely the genta officials devided the cake at the 11th of sept.
have a look :
http://www.implu.com/releases/2009/20090911/30448/implu_viewer
BG
wow ... pps goes down like a divebomber . Impressive !
BG