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I think they are all in it together. I told you about the pros that would have you believe your investment is no good so they can scoop in and buy after creating a panic. And it would seem that some are more adapt at promoting a lie then others(Iraq). But lets not get personal here it would seem every time we do the moderators take a specific side like that of the lie and rumor spreaders.
Suffice it to say that the other holdings of Petro are still going strong(PTRZ .25) after a year of horrific trading and the parent company will soon hit the market with the force of a Atom bomb.
When the smoke clears I think a few posters here will have the covers pulled off of them and their true motives will be revealed.Remember the ghost of Morgan.
If you can, hold on to your shares for all of Petro holdings you will see a significant turn around once share holders make it know that our certificates are trading.
The tactics employed by the company are not unusual for a fledgling trying to do what Owen is doing. Remember if we are successful we will change the scope of trading and how the good old boys do business, and this frightens a lot of them.
Bagdad is right so don't let your frustration with the process blind you into playing their game. It takes time to complete especially in this post Madoff climate.
Some of these guys have their brokers on speed dial and as soon as we announce that the transfers are done they will activate their brokers with an order to buy buy buy, its how the game is played.
It just strikes me as funny that they accused Petro of Pump and Dump but couldn't find or post evidence about this very board that is documented with SEC and they are moderators here. Hmmmmmm!!!?
I think they are all in it together. I told you about the pros that would have you believe your investment is no good so they can scoop in and buy after creating a panic. And it would seem that some are more adapt at promoting a lie then others(Iraq). But lets not get personal here it would seem every time we do the moderators take a specific side like that of the lie and rumor spreaders.
Suffice it to say that the other holdings of Petro are still going strong(PTRZ .25) after a year of horrific trading and the parent company will soon hit the market with the force of a Atom bomb.
When the smoke clears I think a few posters here will have the covers pulled off of them and their true motives will be revealed.Remember the ghost of Morgan.
If you can, hold on to your shares for all of Petro holdings you will see a significant turn around once share holders make it know that our certificates are trading.
The tactics employed by the company are not unusual for a fledgling trying to do what Owen is doing. Remember if we are successful we will change the scope of trading and how the good old boys do business, and this frightens a lot of them.
Bagdad is right so don't let your frustration with the process blind you into playing their game. It takes time to complete especially in this post Madoff climate.
Some of these guys have their brokers on speed diale and as soon as we announce that the transfers are done they will activate their brokers with an order to buy buy buy, its how the game is played.
It just strikes me as funny that they accused Petro of Pump and Dump but couldn't find or post evidence about this very board that is documented with SEC and they are moderators here. Hmmmmmm!!!?
Ive posted this before but to answer your question, it's an old market ploy first started by JP Morgan To have the Federal Reserve instituted. These guys are professional that pray on the fears of others, They spread false rumors and lies to start a panic then position themselves to pic off the stock once they have driven the price down. When the lies have been dis-proven and the price returns to normal they make a killing on the rebound it's and old but affective trick. So Remember Petro Family Beware of the Ghost of Morgan he still hunts our Economy today.
Hope that Helps.
Yes but it wasn't me I live on the east coast.
An analysis of your post = A CRY FOR HELP.......lol
Because no one in their right minds will give over the phone information about a venture that is not public yet especially something new and ground braking. its the very definition of insider information. Come on dude Business 101, you never give information out that could change the course of industry before its time especially to some one you've only meet over the phone, a-Duh
No one has gotten screwed except the people who have been waiting without complaining. any one that was unhappy received their money back so how can this be a scam I thought the very idea of scamming people was to take to give Hmmm! Harley don't be made your not the only one that was wrong about this venture Ill still treat you to lunch if you survive the scam your involved in over there. I guess Ill get my certificate when they get their freedom. lol
NO, Where there is smoke there is fire and PETRO is Red HOT right NOW >>>>>
Why?
so trouble makers can take the info and gum up the works again NO!! I say take your time get it done and then give us what we need to get on with life.
If you take those shoes to a good cobbler you can get a good return on you investment. Petro is changing American business by taking it out of the back rooms and opening it up to the common man so we can all share in the American Dream and stop living the American Nightmare.
The one I follow is full of people and its a last attempt to give the Stock its due before we go public we want people to know its a good investment and its was worth the wait.
Im still in for a beer and since you seem to be learning manners FF you can come to I might even spring for a stake dinner. Like I said Ill need to gloat to someone in a few weeks.
any time ginger just want the facts not gossip an speculation. even if its presented as second hand information. I trust no one is out here purposely trying to miss lead (when it comes to the investment facts pro or con)
Right in front of you if we are looking at the same board, and I was speaking in general terms. The board has become a forum of insults and innuendos I will say at least you and Harly try to present factual arguments which you know I love to engage, but this other stuff has to turn even you stomach.
When My bills are due and the baby needs shoes the last thing I'm concerned with is how and with whom people are getting their rocks off.
Looks like it jumped up two points
From facts to patton place. I look at numbers when investing not sleeping habits. I don't car who the man is in bed with I just want to get to the next faze of my investment plans. This is like the republican witch hunt of the President.
The paper cert. are now acting as our receipts until we get the Electronic notice from the TA. There were some that didn't receive anything yet but they are being added to the data base as corrections.
Don't mind at a ll and thank you for your support. Its just something I'm trying to confirm I don't want to go into detail until I'm sure but I figured if enough were doing DD the truth would surface faster.
PS: On another note thank you for your thoughts concerning Family in Haiti all are relatively safe and accounted for. But Keep the thoughts and donations flowing.
I think they are one and the same, do they deal with containment construction or general contracting. any DD would be appreciated
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Has any one heard of the Bechtel Group
I didn't have the chance to read the message but facts and reason are all I ever encourage, in this and any other venture. the rumors are from those that wish to see this venture fail for one reason or another.
If I share confidence in a matter its from personal or verifiable information.
Hay Petro fam just checking in to say thanks to all the people that sent messages and donations concerning Haiti. Still awaiting word on some family but in these maters time is not a good thing and reality must be faced.
Still know significant information about the peoples company but it would seem that things are moving as quickly to its conclusion as humanly possible.
I wouldn't let the low volume bother me the market is in a rut as several A listers reported a lose of earnings this quarter. Im sure once the weather gets wormer and the bulls come out to mate we will see an over all up swing in the big and little boards.
But causation is the name of the game. So Don't believe the hype. When the end game is played out Im confident that HARLEY and FF will be on line like the rest trying to pick up what they allowed to slip through their fingers.
God bless and keep the faith oops! I keep doing that I mean confidence, and don't allow the professionals to influence what you know to be true. They don't receive the same E-mails we do, and can only speculate from what we tell them.
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Hay Petro fam Not much to discuss right now but please allow me to go off topic when I say Remember my friends and family in Haiti when you meditate Pray or hug you portfolios tonight.
"The true measure of a society is in their ability to take care of the weak or less fortunate"
I forgot where I heard it but Im sure you understand.
That can be said for what ever course of action the company takes.
The final deciding factors are the timely deliverance of the certificates and the over all out come of the SEC investigations, both of which take a grate deal of time to accomplish. And with the past history of interference I could understand the company playing it close to the chest.
That would actually be a good idea if the cart was attached to the handle of the scooter facing the mother so she had better control of the steering and braking.
You see its all in how you view yourself you will view the world around you.
on the contrary its that difficult and that's why the distractions are so not needed right now.
The board is good considering the percentage points being taken over by the big boards with the Dow, Daq and the S&P in the green it would leave very little crumbs for the penny snatchers. Still holding at a steady 25 showing reliability for the day.
Because thats old stale news he's talking about recent developments and relevant regulations. Stop trying to make this a witch hunt and look at the facts.
The problem was too many impatient people need a quick turn around on their investment so they feel victim to the hysteria, Couple that with post Madoff politics and you have a quagmire in the making.
The company has to work through these situations and most importantly conclude the distributions of the certificates before the summer running of the bulls. Momentum is confidence and confidence is momentum.
Enough said you bait and tackle guys hang your signs.
Gone Fishing.]
Your interference has caused too many delays already. Sit back and relax we'll take it from here. The stock holders of the peoples company.
GO PTRZ and PETRO KANSAS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Which makes me wonder who brought this to the SEC and why? hysteria is a powerful tool in the market. Thanks for the clarity KINGENT, reminds me of a song from may youth.
No way will the A listers abandon a strong steady player thats proven its viability during the worst of last years trading days.
still reflecting the trend as the daq lost percentage points to the Dow ptrz is scratching for the crumbs that fall from the daq side of the table. It represents stability in uncertain times,
They say no news is good news but confidence rides on results, and these next few months will determine the future flux of PTRZ's momentum.
What ever the out come of the investigation its clear that no malice or attempt to defraud is present. Give the process its due time and it can work. Constant unfounded accusation and speculation only slows the process this is a lot to deal with.
"I can see clearly now the rain gone, I can see all the obstacles in my way,gone are the dark clouds that had me down. its gonna be a bright bright sun shiny day"
Thats the tune but I forgot the name of it. Thanks King
Glad to hear from you Bagdad I'm eastern in NY. Happy New Year
Happy new year fam.
I see a new year same old speculations. Its funny how these due diligence touters never find the information we do but always ask for our sources.
We don't need proof we have the information, and after last years tit for tat can you blame us for not sharing? I for one would like the process to be completed without further interference from the none investing peanut gallery, you guys crack me up. Im going to pitch a new reality TV show to the Fox net work "Harley and the hard knocks".
They Keep knocking but they just cant get in. lol.......:~1
Don't believe the hype. this trend is a result of the overall market if the Bears would leave the dance floor the bulls will be out to play and we should see an overall up swing in the world's markets. Keep the faith , Oops, confidence, and rmrber the ghost of Morgan.
Happy new Year and god bless us all every one.
Happy New year to all, You Guy's over there please Keep your heads down and your eyes up. To the rest of the Family hug the next person and tell them how much you love them.
Happy New Year and God Bless US ALL!!!!!!!
GO PTRZ and Kansas!!!!!!!!!
HARLEY You have posted everything except the right one:
GONE FISHING!!!!!!!!!
Hope the new year brings the dreams and wishes you all desire. long life and happiness in this the coming year. Look to the future and let go of past inhibitions, fears, illusions,and especially anger. Hold no grudges and no grudges will hold you.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL PTRZ and Petro KANSAS!!!!!!!!
Whats that suppose to mean?
Once again I tune in to a hot bed of speculation and innuendo. Who's on first, what's on second I don't know third base. Is that Lou Costello I hear? Oh no just the usual banter of the once burned and for ever cynical.
Smart money understands the flow of the market the down swing is a reflection of the bears frolicking in the snow. Once the fat man has done his thing and mommy and daddy can think about a surplus for the household the bulls will be out in force looking to butt heads and the fun will really start.
All of this fuss and muss will be settled in the coming months and the Keepers of the flame will be glad they did. The only scam mentioned on this board is the one that have you ladies and gentlemen over seas PTRZ and Petro Kansas are solid companies and will prove themselves in the near future.
Harley Keep your head down Ive got a lot of gloating to do when you get home. Kej Get a lawyer if your going to keep posting like that. The rest of you, Keep the faith and remember if you have to sell chaeck the numbers according to the formula I gave you a while back and you wont be sorry.
Got to get back to the grind stone. Have a productive day.
I'm still waiting for the investigators to call me if its as big a scam as they are claiming. what kind of investigator by pass the victims. even Berny's victims were questioned.
The only scam is the one people are trying to invent. GO PETRO, KANSAS that is.
When its all said and done Kansas will be the mother company. but first things first.
The waiting is the hard part but it will be worth it and no I don't have any thing to disclose Harley I was invited to that site and decided to use my constitutional right your fighting for I didn't want it to go to wast.
I just don't give in to hysteria when thing don't fit my personal business and fiscal plan. The way things have been blown out of proportion its no surprise that the company is playing thing close to the vest.
only Time will tell and Im confident that PTRZ and PETRO KANSAS will emerge as one strong solid company making money for its investors.
holding in the thirties GO PTRZ!!!!!!!!!
Am I the only one with the big yellow strip on my window saying STAY ON TOPIC>...........................
Harley, your developing a sense of humor in your old age, maybe we can get KEJ to smile and freeze over hell for a day.
How's everyone today hope the weather is better in your neck of the woods than here in NY is bone chilling but not cold enough to make those bears get to hibernating. the big boards seem to be infested with them affecting the over all performance for the past two months.
No worries the low volume on the big boards translates into stability for the penny pincher,and PTRZ has capitalized by holding steady and regaining a foothold in the thirties. Wow what a poorly miss managed scam instead of tanking like expected it's like the energizer scam it keeps going and going and going...............
The only reality hear is that we have to Waite until the business is concluded and then make the inquiries or we will be the blind leading the blind.
PS.
if religion and business were mixed it would be as it was when Christ physically beat and drove the thieves out of the temple
for today there is very little honor among thieves. that's why a company like Petro is so vital to the process.