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From your lips to God’s ears
Freedom Motors was selected into the CleanTech Open 2018 Cohort for the US Western Region.
Did u see the latest blog post? Looks like the first FM sour gas motor will be sold next week
Via the blog, someone is looking (unless you just believe everyone is lying)
We have a visitor coming to Moller this week, it’s again that large South Asian multi-national I described meeting with us a couple times earlier in the year. This time they are looking to see some engine demonstrations and get more details on the engine specifications and the corporate IP. They have been very pleasant folks to work with, and are very knowledgeable about PAVs. We are meeting them this Wednesday the 16th.
Guessing some tests will be done in front of potential investors
Good question, since nothing the Gov does is EVER fast, they have been in contact and sold them a few items over the years. David saw some at the trade show (pretty sure I read that) I do not think he said anything about a "meeting" with them other then the normal trade show meeting.
Ok thank you. This is a Moller page if you wish to "Push" your "motor" please start you own mystery motor FB group or page
I have a 1,000 of the FM stock, as I understand it they will all be the same JUST will make it easier to trade them (Lol like I would want to do that)
If you wish to claim the FM will not do the job get its this craft working that is on topic, if you want to link to a motor that would do a better job of getting Skycar airborne and is a better motor that is on topic. If you say “A new motor is coming” then not back up the claim of this new motor to which would be a great help to the Skycar for us to read about and evaluate with a link or information to it. , that is called “imagination” and is OFF topic and every such reference will be removed.
Moller has a section for “newsletters” on its site, you should go back and read the ones from the last year this is from the Nov17 letter it details some sour gas tests
https://www.freedom-motors.com/brochures/Rotapower-engine-and-methane-content-reduction.pdf
No one has ever said Dr Moller as a good businessman, you have to follow Moller know the answers to your questions. Funding and focus has always been an issue.. the scooter bike maker went bankrupt and never paid for work completed for them (250k?) of u are following a new sense of urgency seems to be in place and they seem to be making good progress on getting. The Reg A for FM completed which will allow
Then to start motor production
Now you know MI gets ether 30 or 5% of all FM sales depending on who builds the Motor u might want to think about getting some MI stock since it will benefit from FM getting its production up and running
Where did u find the time line?
The older rotary engines definitely suffered from issues, along with other issues related to engine run-time & maintenance requirements. Dr. Moller has reduced SFC to provide an engine efficiency equivalent to 777 turbojets. In addition, 95% of the acoustical energy is removed from the exhaust in the expansion rotor, so they need very little muffling. Most of the other historic rotary issues have already been resolved by the latest design of the engine. (Taken from a FB post the ICO of MI)
Sounds like the RIGHT motor to me
Yup and on July 8, 1982 with a value of USD 0.17 Apple closed ...past performance is no guaranty of future results ... until recently tell someone you were buying stock in a flying car company and everyone laughs at you NOW top names and many start ups are working at a Fever pitch and spending billions ... maybe he was just early to his own party
Remeber it came public at $8.50
10 Years? I bought in at $1.25 road it down to $1.00 sold and rebought at ... well I break even at .04 I would not have gotten back in if the same old same old was going on. Plus one does get tired of family laughing at you for buying “flying car stock” I first leaned of MI in the 80s when technology was not even close to being able to do what Dr Moller needed/ wanted it to do... now the whole world is pushing to get cars flying, they are just barking up the wrong tree with the electric battery fetish
Right in that Dr Moller is the major share holder in both, wrong in that FM is a whole other line of product which will be made and marketed stand alone, Right in FM owes its existence to MI and owes it (and I got 2 numbers in my head) ether 3 or 4 mil for work completed which will kick start The MI line BUT depending on who is making the FM motor MI gets 5 or 30% of the profit, FM does well MI can get its own line up and running (which uses FM motors)
FM may not pay the full amount up front as MI does not need it all back and get the FM motors produce is a great need for the income and the MI craft
Reg A yes it has be a start stop as fund from VC looked possible then fell apart, Also the sour gas market had not been explored yet .. a ready made market for the FM is a great help ...IMO Now I am NOT a officer of ether company and the about is how “I” under stand it
Am I the only one here who reads the FM Blog? LOL it is ether 3or 4 mill ( I could look it up by 500K gets it all done) The Reg A is the big push and it IS going forward as the best funding option AND yes MLER went public at $8;50 lack of focus and time killed the value. WELL it seem they have a new sense of urgency and having NO money has got there attention (so it seems) ... As much as I LOVE FM and the stock coming out ... MLER at this point is a once in a life time event (OK 2 nd for me but I was young then) that $8.50 was a good staring point BEFORE the rest of the world decided tha flycars and taxis were going to be the way we all get around 2-3x that valuation in interest of flying cars alone now and once we see where this flushes out.. well everyone need to drive some place .... at one time no one had cell phones ... If it works it all works and a “moon shot” stock is way too low. if it does not work, no one ever remembers who Dr moller was
FM is a separate company for MI this will be a private company going public, not being up one all that is required should I think MI will have to list something ? The best part will be the (was it 4 ?) million FM will pay MI which will be more then enough to get the Neuera flying (owed for past work done)
As per SEC rules .. The take way is funding is there regardless of how . They can not talk about it.. WE know that MLER had NO cash even in the bank so the money must come from someplace which is a GREAT sign
Day trader? Lol you have NO idea, lots of home work for you here, put it this way if this works you retire, if not well there is a history of trying hard but not getting it done and the core Patents are yet to be filled
He was (is) a share holder and fan of flying cars (Lit. was one of "us") has watched all the ups and downs, ... To read between the lines funding (i.e. be it the Reg A) must be close be because as has been stated by David MI has NO money. Once that is in place this stock is going to have an epic run (Not over stating IMHO) it would be amazing to get a few Neueras completed in time for Christmas (not sure if that would to too tight a window
He made his money with bit coin and “retired” early He was also the one working on the ICO (which is now on the back burner)
Lots of reasons why we do not have them yet, But 25 companies are now working on them. That seems to be attracting attention (Money) Technology has caught up... every day is new past performance is no guarantee of future results
Ya get in line with that Gen set order, I have been waiting two years
I can not, there was a post where that questions was asked (share holder meet?) and the answer was "They" had one. You have to email them for more info
He has a LOT of houses and is focusing on that for a while, he still follows the posts of the FB page you can always message him he still holds a Million + shares
Jeff has taken a self imposed break from posting, (he does own a few houses) And I have "heard" talk there is a plan for post Dr Moller MLER
Reading between the lines, a source of funding is secured or soon will be, they have had NI money Zack who left MI around the first of the year (ish) had not been paid for six months, which was why he left, to hire 2? Good news coming (IMHO)
Dr Moller who has had been inventing all this stuff since the 60s is the majority share holder in both companies. The money they will pay MI will be used to get the Neuera finished and for sale ( much like the non rescue model of the firefly) the rest of the money will be used to start producing the FM Motor... if you have not read all the FM blogs you should
Freedom and Moller are joined at the hip at this point, the flying cars of Moller are not possible with out freedom motors. FM owes MI 4 million (?) for work done, FM were developed because of that MI need for the high power low weight power plant ... And yes FM motors will change the world replacing small motors with one 1/3 the size with as much power (If I remember my numbers right) there web page shows some gen sets they played a round with in the past
Moller/Freedom motors has a blog that is updated when any news comes out (or the lack of news) here is the link to keep up to date. They address one of your questions in the posing from last night
https://freedom-motors.com/blog/2018/03/20/recap/
Ever wished you could work at company you were frustrated with, one you were investing in?
Well that is David, he made his fortune in Bit coin and retired joining Ml, He has “our” prospective this is from the FM blog worth posting. the first trading day after this came out over a mil shares traded
I’ve been working on updating the Moller International business plan for a visit by an investment group in the next 1-2 weeks, trying to modernize it and get our numbers up to date. The plan we have is a couple years out of date, old photos, etc. I want to get it as clean as possible for our visitors.
A large multi-national corporation ($250 Billion market cap) visited us about a month ago, as they are interested in developing a partnership with Moller and Freedom Motors for the volantor technology. We heard back from them this week, just to let us know they are still interested in working with us and they are preparing their first contract offer. I have more confidence in this company’s interest because they sent us a graduate from MIT who has a PhD in Aeronautical Engineering to evaluate our technology. He was extremely knowledgeable and could see the many advantages in the Skycar designs, as opposed to other eVTOLs in development. I don’t want to get everyone’s hopes up, because we have *all* seen this movie before, but it does feel promising. I will keep you up to date on the status of those talks when I am able.
My point to post this is a track record.
Some have said Dr Moller has never done "anything". Or what has he to show for all the money spent, Other then needed computers to catch up to the crafts. A VC source of cash now would get theses craft finished.
David, who just joined MI has said the best is yet to come and will go from trade to having PAT filed will come once production is started
History of innovation, AND this does not include those still in the "vault" which are currently "Trade secrets"
https://lookaside.fbsbx.com/file/MI%20FM%20Moller%20Granted%20US%20Patents.pdf?token=AWy4DGBstGtOlwjpKZ8pHXzYjEP1WANmTW5PbohAsZMNNVWiEnSjdZ6-ZGM6oXfnYHKTKf3jDgfT0W2Xy3J5o2K3JkEx5I8titnR_Kl4YwPdxOaA4J7NfSEF5Ih0Xyro3_xjdn3MO5VqldakZvG8yg1BMtu4sHCOgk540kSVdNQjIA6OjkJ9K5uJcQdKdzYQ4hW7O6AuXxhZIeIJ-aUpHacU
Trigger waning for the who do not believe, trust, or things Moller will ever come to anything yet waste their time posting here
Dr Moller is a poor businessmen but each day is a change to find a way that works, As the flying car market heats up VC will come looking for a spot, “I” believe up to this point the FM is the only answer to the quest to get a car in the air, Batteries will not get it done since they can not store the power needed to get many LBS in the air, keep it there, or go very far, THEN add in recharge time and it is not a working model. NOW, that being said everyone working on this (25 plus) all are trying to come up with a electric Well until the laws of energy change or they come up with a new power source Oil based fuel is the only thing that has the energy storage that will work,
If you believe electric will work fine, but do not bother responding to this post as I will not engage any more then to argue that unicorns are real, in the end you buy your stocks I will buy mine one of us will laugh all the way to the bank
From the Moller Facebook page
David C. SastryGroup Admin Yes, first half of 2016 plan was based on a successful ICO. But we have spent most of our time preparing for and meeting with investors. I'm still researching the ICO, but we have been spending all our efforts with these investors. One of the investors is an overseas company with $250 Billion market cap (who we have already met, and we are negotiating with), and we have another major overseas group visiting with us in less than two weeks. These two organizations are interested in MI. We also have local investors interested in working with us on the biogas gen-sets. Time and effort with all these visitors has taken me away from the ICO plan, I have not abandoned it. But the ICO is looking more and more like the fall-back plan, as we have had so much strong interest in Dr. Moller's work.
Have you signed up for his Facebook group yet? This is where the new info officer put out the daily goings ons and responds when he can (He just joined Moller after making enough on bit coin to retire) you of your questions can be answered there..
And no he is not a businessman he is an engineer they currently have no income and no one is working on much of anything other then talking to investors,
Supercharged, turbo of which you do not have the number for, BUT given Dr Moller's track record of Pats motor redesigns.. I am going to take it on faith the math works. That it will propel the craft as stated
You seem to be assuming hover at 36k feet where it would seem that would be for forward flight. Not being an aeronautical engineer have read some of what Moller has designed, and the hover part from ground to forward movement requires the most power. There will be lift form from the wings. He has white papers on much of this you are seriously interested
All the best inventions are currently withheld. We estimate 500k-750k to complete patent prosecution for all those domestically and internationally in key markets.
From David who is the CIO and has seen inside the "Vault"