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I would rather not give out e-mail addresses here. You'd be best getting those from clayton.
IMO the Peter Principal is why the sales force was trimmed from 25 to 8, now 7 if you exclude me. I haven't notified them that I will be pursuing other interests but since they never had the time to send me a copy back signed by the company then I was never really under contract with them.
For those who don't know what the Peter Principal is it is when someone rises to their level of incompetence.
I do not doubt that SNV can still be a home run but he needs someone in charge of sales that can get this rolling. Clayton is a kind hearted man but sometimes you need to kick people in the a** to get the job done. The projected revenues I talked about in the past are possible if the 1000 unit day care gets signed on and if the sales force gets rolling.
I have a sneaky suspicion that the line of credit he had for the stores never got transferred to SNV even though clayton said it did. I think he couldn't get it transferred due to the tight credit markets. He's never pr'd anything on it so we can just speculate.
I have another suspicion the hold up on the 1000 unit day care is that he doesn't have the money to buy the cameras necessary to get them up and running. If that's the case then we will never move anywhere until he dilutes it to a one billion AS.
So there you go all IMO
I'd rather not. I , unlike them, have integrity.
there was one brief training call but the rest never materialized
I understand clayton is telling people "the sales force just started selling give them a chance"
well that's a crock
i know two other people that never received one iota of training
also, did clayton ever pr the fact that Mike Adler dwindled the number down from 25 reps to 8 reps?
Are any of those 8 reps selling anything yet? I doubt it...I was one of them
I would post the 4 four e-mails I received from Mike Adler but I would be afraid people would die from laughing so hard
my first grade daughter could have put better materials together
clayton needs a real director of sales not the used car salesman he has now
Nope just don't care anymore
I stood up for a man who was lying thru his teeth to me
His lying now affects my credibility
I sleep well at night I doubt he does
So is this an attempt to average down?
Wow the volume is breathtaking today
No interest here at all
It's too bad they won't give out the float numbers. But then again he can only dilute another 7.08 million shares and at the current pps it wouldn't be worth it
I have no idea if it is similar but if Clayton doesn't come clean by the end of next month I will do something about it.
He has had plenty of time. I'll give him more time once he explains in full what the heck is going on. I have lost my patience.
Yes I can prove it. PM me your e-mail if you would like proof
I have not called it a scam. I have just stated that Clayton needs to come clean with everyone.
No I have not turned negative but there was dilution.
There was some dilution in the last month
Lies that were told to me in telephone conversations. I'd rather not go into them here.
Thanks for the vote of confidence. If I am guilty of anything it's defending a man and his company while he was lying to me.
there could also be some large shareholders getting in their tax losses for end of year.
uncle same will relieve some of the burden of your losses if you sell before the end of the year
I wish I knew. I don't know if anything clayton ever told me was true or not. By the looks of the stocks pps everything was a lie.
I was told there was extensive training materials I would need to read thru. I never received any of them. I was told we would receive technical training on the camera systems. That never happened.
As for the Dc rep and the Obama school ok I stretched the truth a little.
If I misled anyone I apologize but it seems we have all been fed a bowl of crap and the crap is now putting out a very bad odor.
As far as I am concerned Clayton's credibility is lower than Congress's approval rating.
I just hope those holding shares in the hundreds of thousands and millions at least recover some of their money.
Clayton is the only one here with anything to prove. His shareholder approval rating is at an all time low.
no not a lie..............training never happened
sorry i am not an insider
an independent contractor does not constitute an insider
besides I never received a signed copy back from the company so as far as I know I am still just a shareholder.....nothing more
I guess he's trying to buy some more lower? Can't blame a shareholder for trying to average down
There has obviously been some sort of dilution for the float to go from 9 million to 26 million. Either that or the divvy screw up was resolved and there was no error or a combination of the two.
Clayton needs to clarify everything SOON!!!!!
If they are restricted they can't be added to the float. Knowing how Clayton operates he probably bundled them in the SNV restricted shares without saying anything IMHO.
The volume today is a little over 600,000 shares. There's at least a dozen shareholders that I know that hold more than that. I don't get what you are saying.
actually none of that is the case. what I am disappointed in is best kept to myself
I won't bash the company or clayton but I also will not praise them. There is no cause to do either.
However, seeing that today is December 16 I highly doubt any of the sales people will make any sales until 2009 IMHO.
does it matter?
I don't know about you but I am very disappointed in what has been going on the past couple of months
I will probably continue to post very little here but it sure looks like what many of the naysayers were warning us about might be somewhat true
Clayton seems to be an honorable man but changes direction in midstream a lot without communicating it to shareholders. For those of you owning hundreds of thousands or millions of shares I sure hope it all turns out well for you and Clayton delivers his goal of $1 a share
Other than that I have nothing else more to say
twisted words again.............i'll see you sometime in march
i'm not gonna waste my time posting here anymore
It's so funny how most people don't understand how the stock market works.
I'm sure Clayton owns a big chunk of shares and has a lot of money at stake here.
I'm sure some of the new team were given shares also and they probably have a lot at stake here too.
Now it's time for Clayton to clear up a few things and get this puppy rolling.
i read a lot of materials and tech stuff but no official training
You would have to define "active operations" before considering any lawsuit.
SecureNetView, a wholly owned subsidiary of Ulysses Diversified Holdings Corporation (Other OTC:UDHC.PK - News), announced today that it has assembled a well established national sales team that will start active operations effective next week.
SecureNetView has meticulously assembled a national sales team of twenty five extremely qualified and experienced sales people selected by Mr. Mike Adler, the national sales manager of SecureNetView. Their focus will be exclusively the day care/nursery school industry at this time.
yes i talk with mike evry couple of days...no no training at all yet
still waiting on the training
yes as you say we have all been scammed............ROFLMAO
I'll buy all the scammed shares from you for what you paid for them less 20% commission for me
I would suggest trying SNV and Kinderview...IMHO
Actually it's an easy sell. In this day and age the demand is incredible. The competition is non existent. Deals will begin to be closed sooner than anyone thinks. Shareholders will reap the rewards when it all falls into place.
I would say he knows what he's doing and the results will show in a couple of months not today, not tomorrow, not next week. I'd estimate we will have a much clearer picture by February. Have a nice holiday season everyone. I've got some contracts to get signed.
Mike Adler left me a message Monday and I tried calling him back twice but he was out. I need to call him back. Just has been a game of phone tag the last few days.
And he has been rather sick the past couple of weeks.
we were supposed to be ready to go last monday then it got pushed to this past monday. I'm losing my patience
Way too many other opportunities in the market right now beyond UDHC! Taking some of my money elsewhere
I disagree , the only stock I am holding is UDHC. I am all cash otherwise.
There are very few good plays right now unless you are short.
No I'm not saying that. I'm saying things are progressing a lot slower than I originally anticipated and it is frustrating.