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Th CEO said Ruby mining in 2011 and 5 mines by end of 2012. What kind of verification is the CEO's comments about NBRI???? his track record of accurate statements and timelines isn't good at all.
Any and all verifications can and should come from independent sources. If verification is only attainable from within the corporate vacuum then it's questionable.
I believe no more that they are working 7 days a week as I believe Perry is working diligently for shareholders.
Unless management knew NBRI would be diluted into the ground and the only way to keep the fish on the hook was to somehow make them believe that the worthless shares they hold would be replaced by golden certificates of a spin-off when good is mined, erasing all the losses and making them instant millionaires LOL
Very common penny stock tactic. I've seen very few actually issue stock. The couple I have seen that did never had them registered and the shares were never eligible for sale.
LOL it's a legitimate question not a statement. How much of his own money has Perry put into NBRI???
How much of Perry's own money is invested in NBRI???
Instead of paying $8,000 for stock promotion in 2011 claiming mining was coming within months and 5 mines would be I operation by the end if 2012 why didn't Perry just provide a free, honest assessment of things to shareholders????
I know, because stock promotion is meant to sell shares and suggesting that mining is years away, dilution will take a toll and no significant revenues will be realized for years doesn't sell shares.
It's sad that in order to raise money he has to mislead shareholders and potential investors. Taking care of funders while misleading investors.
That's Team Leopold.
Where have I hard that kind of talk before???? Oh yeah, the same guy who said Ruby in 2011 and 5 mines in 2012. No mining taking place, deadlines coming.....time for another cave in LMAO!!!'nnn
LOL only 7 shirt years without producing a single mine that brings in revenues. But hang on and keep buying stock folks.
The dilution at higher levels required fewer shares. Now it's a different story.
NBRI is not a mining company. They are an exploration company. And one that claimed they would be mining the Ruby by the end if 2011 and have 5 operational mines by the end of 2012. To be off by a couple of months is one thing but 3 years after claiming the Ruby was going to be mined and 2 years after their self imposed timeframe for having 5 mines in operation they still have nothing.
That is just pathetic.
And as long as no mining takes place Fantasy Island can continue. The nature of a penny stock. Since 2011 (3+years) this has been touted as being "mining coming in a short period of time"
Yet, as the years click by, ignoring their own claims of "mining by the end of 2011" all that is required of the company is another fluffy PR saying "gold is coming" for people to forget that mining was supposed to be taking place years ago.
Endless excuses but honestly, anybody who says in June of 2011 that mining was on a fast track to take place before the end of the year and 3 years later no mining is taking place then that person was one of 2 things.
1) totally dishonest with shareholders
Or
2) totally ignorant.
Pick whichever one makes you feel better about the situation.
Three years later still laying carpet, hanging drapes and sprucing the place up LMAO!!!!!
Yeah, they are only 3+years off and still counting....
July 28, 2011
6 weeks after initial stock promotion report claiming mining was coming soon this was presented by the stock promotion company.
Ruby Mine Project Well Underway
A program of general inspection has now commenced. The focus is on repair and maintenance of the underground workings in preparation for the start-up of operations.
No one knows this mine better than William S. Watters and he is on board advising as NBRI re-opens the Ruby Mine Project. NBRI is moving to produce gold from the Ruby Mine as quickly as possible.
Next Step for NBRI
North Bay Resources Inc. is not a one mine company nor is it a one project company. This is a Company that has announced it intends to be a gold producer in 2011. It has the mine, the financing and the engineer in place and is clearly fully engaged in re-opening the Ruby Gold Project.
North Bay Resources Inc. (OTCBB: NBRI) Moving Quickly Toward Revenue at Ruby Mine in CA
North Bay Resources Inc. (OTCBB: NBRI)
What is important to understand when evaluating NBRI is that at the Ruby Mine in Sierra County, California, the Company is stepping into the shoes of an active an ongoing mining operation.
They have retained the former mining engineer of that very mine. The Mill is in place and the tailings pond is ready.
NBRI is not just asking you to take their word, look at this video and you will see NBRI can be ready to mine at the Ruby Mine located in Sierra County, California, in a short period of time.
LINK HERE for Ruby Mine Project
Cash flow is the objective at the Ruby Mine and funds will be returned other viable projects NBRI is currently pursuing.
This junior mining company is stair-stepping its way to success.
There is no better way to enter the gold market than right here, right now.
NBRI’s highest priority is getting the Ruby Mine into operation and successfully completing the transition from being an exploration company to becoming a gold producer. Following that, the acquisition of additional operating mines in the US and the consummation of more joint-venture agreements in Canada are the next highest priorities.
The goal is to end 2012 with at least five mines in the US in operation, and five joint ventures in Canada under contract.
Contact:
Perry Leopold
CEO
North Bay Resources Inc.
215-661-1100
http://www.northbayresources.com
About North Bay Resources Inc.
North Bay Resources Inc. (OTC.BB:NBRI – News) is a fully-reporting junior mining company with over 150 mineral and placer claims encompassing approximately 60,000 acres throughout British Columbia, Canada.
In the US, the Company is acquiring the Ruby Gold Mine in Sierra County, California, and is presently looking to acquire additional operating mines in the western US.
The Company’s mission is to build a portfolio of viable mining prospects throughout the world and develop them through subsidiaries and JV partners to their full economic potential. North Bay’s business plan is based on the Generative Business Model, which is designed to leverage its properties into near-term revenue streams even during the earliest stages of exploration and development. This provides shareholders with multiple opportunities to profit from discoveries while preserving capital and minimizing the risk involved in exploration and development.
Safe Harbor and Forward Looking Statement: This release may contain certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, which are intended to be covered by the safe harbors created thereby. Investors are cautioned that all forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties. Although North Bay Resources Inc. believes that the assumptions underlying the forward-looking statements contained herein are reasonable, any assumption could be inaccurate, and therefore, there can be no assurance that the forward-looking statements included in this press release will prove to be accurate. In light of the significant uncertainties inherent in the forward-looking statements included herein, the inclusion should not be regarded as a representation by North Bay Resources Inc. or any other person that the objective and plans of North Bay Resources Inc. will be achieved.
Cautionary Note to U.S. Investors — The United States Securities and Exchange Commission permits U.S. mining companies, in their filings with the SEC, to disclose only those mineral deposits that a company can economically and legally extract or produce. We use certain terms on our website (or press releases), such as “measured,” “indicated,” “inferred” and “resources,” which the SEC guidelines strictly prohibit U.S. registered companies from including in their filings with the SEC. U.S. Investors are urged to consider closely the disclosure in our Form S-1 and subsequent Form 10-K which may be secured from us, or from our website at http://www.sec.gov/edgar.shtml
North Bay Resources Inc. (OTCBB: NBRI) Moving Quickly Toward Revenue at Ruby Mine in CA
North Bay Resources Inc. (OTCBB: NBRI)
What is important to understand when evaluating NBRI is that at the Ruby Mine in Sierra County, California, the Company is stepping into the shoes of an active an ongoing mining operation.
They have retained the former mining engineer of that very mine. The Mill is in place and the tailings pond is ready.
NBRI is not just asking you to take their word, look at this video and you will see NBRI can be ready to mine at the Ruby Mine located in Sierra County, California, in a short period of time.
LINK HERE for Ruby Mine Project
Cash flow is the objective at the Ruby Mine and funds will be returned other viable projects NBRI is currently pursuing.
This junior mining company is stair-stepping its way to success.
There is no better way to enter the gold market than right here, right now.
NBRI’s highest priority is getting the Ruby Mine into operation and successfully completing the transition from being an exploration company to becoming a gold producer. Following that, the acquisition of additional operating mines in the US and the consummation of more joint-venture agreements in Canada are the next highest priorities.
The goal is to end 2012 with at least five mines in the US in operation, and five joint ventures in Canada under contract.
Contact:
Perry Leopold
CEO
North Bay Resources Inc.
215-661-1100
http://www.northbayresources.com
About North Bay Resources Inc.
North Bay Resources Inc. (OTC.BB:NBRI – News) is a fully-reporting junior mining company with over 150 mineral and placer claims encompassing approximately 60,000 acres throughout British Columbia, Canada.
In the US, the Company is acquiring the Ruby Gold Mine in Sierra County, California, and is presently looking to acquire additional operating mines in the western US.
The Company’s mission is to build a portfolio of viable mining prospects throughout the world and develop them through subsidiaries and JV partners to their full economic potential. North Bay’s business plan is based on the Generative Business Model, which is designed to leverage its properties into near-term revenue streams even during the earliest stages of exploration and development. This provides shareholders with multiple opportunities to profit from discoveries while preserving capital and minimizing the risk involved in exploration and development.
Safe Harbor and Forward Looking Statement: This release may contain certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, which are intended to be covered by the safe harbors created thereby. Investors are cautioned that all forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties. Although North Bay Resources Inc. believes that the assumptions underlying the forward-looking statements contained herein are reasonable, any assumption could be inaccurate, and therefore, there can be no assurance that the forward-looking statements included in this press release will prove to be accurate. In light of the significant uncertainties inherent in the forward-looking statements included herein, the inclusion should not be regarded as a representation by North Bay Resources Inc. or any other person that the objective and plans of North Bay Resources Inc. will be achieved.
Cautionary Note to U.S. Investors — The United States Securities and Exchange Commission permits U.S. mining companies, in their filings with the SEC, to disclose only those mineral deposits that a company can economically and legally extract or produce. We use certain terms on our website (or press releases), such as “measured,” “indicated,” “inferred” and “resources,” which the SEC guidelines strictly prohibit U.S. registered companies from including in their filings with the SEC. U.S. Investors are urged to consider closely the disclosure in our Form S-1 and subsequent Form 10-K which may be secured from us, or from our website at http://www.sec.gov/edgar.shtml
NBRI Disclosure: Pentony Enterprises LLC entered into an investor relations consulting and market awareness contract with NBRI. We hold not shares and will not be receiving any shares. To avoid all potential conflicts of interest, we never sell shares into the open market during an active market awareness or investor relations program. This means that as we release new information about a particular client company either on our site or otherwise authored by us, you can be confident we are not selling shares at the same time. Pentony Enterprises is not a registered investment adviser or a broker/dealer. Pentony Enterprises LLC makes no recommendation that the purchase of securities of companies profiled in this web site is suitable or advisable for any person, or that an investment in such securities will be profitable. The Company will compensate us a total of eight thousand dollars for coverage. In general, given the nature of the companies profiled and the lack of an active trading market for their securities, investing in such securities is highly speculative and carries a high degree of risk. Pentony Enterprises LLC – 1601 Berwick Drive – McKinney, Texas 75070 – (469) 252-3031.
Lemon I'm mobile today and can't copy and paste from my IPhone but if you google Talkingstocks NBRI Ruby mine the report will come up and you can see what Perry paid them $8,000 to say 3 years ago about Ruby and you can repost it here. Or I'll post it tomorrow morning.
My 5 minutes of DD brought up a stock promotion report that Perry paid $8,000 for in June of 2011. This report said mining of good was only a shirt period of time away, all the equip needed was already on site and ready to go, there was no better time or place to invest in a gold company.
3 years later they have sold no gold, there is no mining and the stock is down over 95%.
So, for $8,000 and a report full of bullshit how many shares were moved into the hands of unsuspecting people??? Let's have a looksie to see.
June 30, 2011 OS shares 94,583,165
Last known share count here is???
165,489,282
71 million shares later and the Ruby that was ready to mine and produce gold 3 years ago is still no mining or producing gold.
NBRI is however producing and selling shares that have decimated the stock price by about 95%.
And that cheesy report that was entirely misleading was paid for by Perry/NBRI for $8,000. I wonder what the return on investment has been for the company based on that report???
Anybody want to guess how much has been raised selling stock since that report and subsequent press releases have come out???
So the other companies didn't know what they were doing???
Yeah, they are gonna be worth billions LMAO!!!!!!
It's a penny stock that survives solely by selling discounted stock into fluff press releases. Ironically, those who buy into the press releases also buy into the stock. Funders make money, Perry makes money, shareholders lose money.
Kind of funny right? Those spending money are losing money, those sling stock are making money, the company has had no mining, no gold sales and has lost millions.
Once again to be clear. Investors losing money. Perry and funders making money. Fluffy press releases are the reason.
They arent a start up. They are a penny stock. A start up is generally funded initially by the owners of the business.
Can you provide the total amount of money Perry has invested in this business???
This is a penny stock. Insiders and funders make money even when the company brings in nothing. Shareholders shoulder the costs, money ends up in the hands of those who don't care if the shareholders live or die.
Toxic funders aren't venture capitalists they are piraña who feed off of people who don't know the difference.
Well isn't that special, they raised $170,000 for the entire year while losing over $174,000 each and every month. Let's break that down a little.
$170,000 is the equivalent of creating $465 a day. Every day of the year. Now, remove $100,000 of that amount that went to Perry.
That leaves a net of $70,000 to use for company expenses. That reduces the amount per day to $192 brought in.
So, this glorious company had $192 a day to spend for 365 days.
However, their net loss for the year was $2,095,305 which breaks down to $5,741 per day, every day for 365 straight days.
In other words they lost 30 times more per day than they brought in.
And they sold no gold, had no revenues and diluted the stock into the ground. Why exactly does he deserve $100,000 for a salary last year???
I know the argument is he shouldn't work for free but he hasn't earned anything. He has taken a salary but he hasn't earned it at all.
How about his salary is based on share price increase or decrease percentage??? Any long term holder is losing over 90%. His cash salary is increasing while the value of the company is decreasing and while the share price is at all time lows.
He's making more and you guys are losing more. Makes sense right???!
How can you say funds are a a available when the loss is nearly 10 times the amount brought in? That means it cost NBRI nearly $10 for every $1 it brought in.
How long could you stand on the corner offering $10 bills for sale for $1????? How much could NBRI get if they liquidated all claims/properties other than Ruby and used all those funds to stop toxic funding dilution????
Factor in the last company who went in guns blazing claiming all this good was ripe for the picking spent millions and went broke without ever proving their claims. Historical data of gold is a very complex argument. Simply because X amount of good was mined in the past doesn't really mean there is any more or less gold in the ground. Perhaps they scratched the surface and only brought up 1% and this is the mother if all good mines. Perhaps they mined 99% and it's a dud. Perhaps it's somewhere in between.
All I know is that many penny stock mining companies come and go but they all claim amazing amounts of minerals are there for the taking. Unfortunately very very few ever actually provide that product in the form of profitable mining.
My experience in researching and following hundreds of stocks over a decade and a half is that wild claims we made, many fluffy press releases are put out and nothing more than disappointing samplings take place before the company ceases to exist.
Penny mining stocks are considered some of the riskiest investments in an already massively risky arena. Very easily manipulated.
So using your logic you still accept that 85% failure rate. So, using your own logic you would have to obviously show some kind of evidence that NBRI is operating differently than somewhere around 85% of other penny stocks. So, what sets NBRI apart from the rest???
Here is a brief list of what limos them in with 99% of them.
No/limited revenues over an extended period of time.
No profits with millions in accumulated deficits.
Dilutive financing agreements.
Inability to produce results that match forward looking statements.
Share issuances at steep discount to prevailing market prices.
A long term declining share price.
Inability if management to stabilize share price levels.
No/limited growth in assets over extended period of time.
Inability to control spending.
Sweetheart contracts with insiders.
That's what I see. What do you have that sets them apart?? What factual evidence do you use to support your contention that they are different than the rest?? Logic is defined as a particular way of thinking using reasoning.
My logic is this. Based on the dynamics of penny stocks and the factors that lead most to fail I can logically reason that with the lack of results, the level of toxic financing and the best case scenario timeframes on profitable mining that the shareholders here will lose even if the company survives. This class if shareholders is in too deep and logical reasoning tells me the losses over the past 2 years along with the continued toxic funding has created a situation where it is next to impossible for current long term shareholders to recoup anything and that as the pps continues trending downward over the next several months it will become a flippers stock. If the company survives they will eventually have to reverse split which is toxic in itself to penny stock shareholders.
Because of my research on pennies and the patterns I've seen I believe they fall into the 99% failure category for current holders. Betting on any given penny stock in a similar situation to fail you would win 99% of the time. Even if you argue 85% the odds are still against an NBRI even by your own lower estimate of survival.
That's logical reasoning.
Wrong. My opinions are totally logical, based on years of research. I take Into account the dynamics of the penny stock market. There is a distinct pattern that takes place with failed penny stocks. It doesn't matter if it's a mining stock, a widget maker or any other business.
An extended period of no revenues, toxic funding, dilution and under capitalized is a recipe for disaster. If this scenario results in failure 99% of the time then is it illogical to assume, based on experience that NBRI will fail? Or is it illogical to asume they will succeed by ignoring said experience?
What have I said??? If NBRI wants to separate themselves from typical penny stock failures they have to begin the process of behaving differently. Currently they are weighted down with CD debt. Have you seen a 2 year chart??? It clearly shows downward pressure on the stock for obvious reasons. Required dilution for necessary funding regardless of stock price and absent if any shareholder protections.
If NBRI stopped borrowing and diluting today how long would they have money before being BK??? Stock and business are two separate beasts. One can be cannibalized for the other. Perry's dream of. Sing a miner can be realized even if shareholders are wiped out. However implementing protection for the shareholders right now would BK the business.
You have to agree with that. Regardless of the outcome of the dilution, without it NBRI is done with. With it the business keeps churning. The business needs it and you need it even if it wipes you off the map because it's the only hope you have.
There is nothing illogical about it, we just believe in a different ending to the story.
Post whatever you like. Businesses live or die based on their results. You can call a company junk all day and night. If they fail you were right. If they succeed you were wrong. I would never buy or sell based on message board posts.
If ones investment here in NBRI is influenced by negativity or hype then it's a flawed investment to begin with. NBRI will determine if NBRI succeeds or fails and no amount of negative or positive posts will change the outcome. In the end it comes down to management and how they ran the company.
Another 100% true statement.
LOL any company that tries to sue a message board poster is a total scam. It's a tactic use to silence critics but those subpoenas on IHUB are easily quashed as every post on IHUB disclaimed by IHUB as being opinion. I haven't directly seen any posts by that individual but speaking from experience I know how to quash these subpoenas and have done so in the past.
Results defeat critical statements. Lawsuits cover up poor performance. I've never seen a legitimate subpoena served on IHUB by any penny stock company.
Every post here is opinion as per IHUB terms of use. Therefore a company would have to specifically prove damages, prove those damages were a direct result of a message board post and prove the amount. Their true motive for suing is to simply shut down negative sentiment which defeats the purpose of a message board entirely. If a poster does not right a subpoena that is filed properly IHUB has no option but to give the info.
You then see these slimey pennies use that personal info in a way that harms the presentation of info and opinion on these boards.
If I say NBRI is a failure I base that on my opinion of things. If NBRI fails I'm certainly not to blame. Investors do their own DD and in eat on their own level of risk/reward. To say somebody did or didn't invest based on a message board post is ridiculous.
And to project that a message board poster harms a company is ridiculous. Especially here. Dilution, toxic funding and lack of results drives the pps down here. The company has sucked at protecting shareholders that's just an undeniable fact proven by looking at a 2 year chart.
Sue me, I'll show you how to shoot that shit down. I've got a civil liberties attorney who works for nothing on these kind of cases because he believes so strongly in freedom of speech.
I'll gladly share my case with you where I was sued, had it thrown out and eventually saw the CEO criminally and civilly charged for fraud. The company was Primestar, the CEO was Roger Mohlman and me, along with a few others were sued by his be wife Donna for presenting that company as a scam.
And I believe I've said the CEO doesn't have to sell shares because he issues them to people who sell them for him and provide him with an income from a company that brings in no money. He's, any amount he takes is overpaid. His company makes zero money, has no revenues and his funding agreements are burying the very people who pay him his salary.
If there is gold he better get his shit together because the stock is at a critical point where it will simply be too low to recover as small upticks represent larger percentage gains and it is simply flipped endlessly.
The level of dilution here is harmful to shareholders and that's a fact. To date no continuous mining which means no revenues. Your own timeline is 120-180 days away. 4-6 months of more dilution to fund this. The pps can't withstand that. News creates 1 day of momo then a fresh new 52 week low follows.
There truly is a very very huge risk in ok ex with this stock. It is not all rosy and bright. There is a 5% chance at bet that longs win.
So NBRI lied in their own filing with the SEC???
lol it's wrong because you say it's wrong which means you say NBRI lies in their filings with the SEC. So one is to believe their filings are false but their press releases are true?? and if one wants to know the truth about a company that lies in it's filings just call the company and they will explain everything LOL
Okay so NBRI's official filings contain outright lies and misstatements??? That is where the info is taken from. What do you have as far as a link and proof that what's in the filing is not accurate???
No, that post is spot on correct. The old dividend in a new spinoff trick that makes people forget how painful it is to own the real stock while fantasizing about new shiny valuable stock that is never issued or never tradable if it is issued.
No matter how you look at it the fact is that there is no bottom in place for this stock. It takes tangible results not "soon" to do it which should be obvious at this point. No amount of "we are almost there" press releases will provide sustainable stability in the pps. It will continue to fade until continual mining of profitable amounts of good.
The only approach until then is to scalp trade on news days for minimal profits.
Just because they are t issuing more shares doesn't mean funders have unloaded all the shares that have been issued to date.
And, this whole "won't be long now" approach is ridiculous. It won't be long now before the "it won't be long now" argument is simply laughed at.....oh wait, it already is.
It's not about today or tomorrow it's about an accumulative trend. And if you look at the chart you can see that "soon" spoken endlessly paired with toxic funding results in downward long term trending that won't reverse on more "soon" news.
You can scalp newbies trading on that news but long term you lose money.
It's going much lower and will stay there until something other than their own stock is used to pay all the costs. It's supply and demand. The supply outweighs the demand therefore it goes lower. Profits end dilution so until profits dilution weighs down the share price. You call this all time low as if it can't go lower. Look at the chart and tell me how many all time lows have been busted through over the past 6 months???? There will be a new all time low followed by another and another. 6 months worth of new all time lows on the horizon.
And the cost of mining that schedule is???? So 6 months tops if low end estimates are allowed???? 90 days for each of the two events????
How much dilution between now and then to pay for all of this??? Another 500 million shares accounting for a depressed dilutive stock price????
Okay, when is mining of that amount going to begin??? The drop dead date you expect it and the date you will lose faith if it's not taking place?????
All I see here are delays followed by excuses. Businesses don't get to just keep printing money endlessly. You see what happens when they try right??? Life doesn't work this way. You earn money you don't get to just print it until you figure out how to earn it. It all catches up eventually and this is about to take a then that it can't recover from.
So what timeframe before 250 ounces a month????
Let me interject here. Looking at what's going on at the mine and what one believes will take place down the road while ignoring what's taking place with the stock right now is irresponsible.
The key is removing "belief" and focusing on what's real and tangible.
Real. No mining is taking place and there is nothing that gives a definitive date when it will.
Real. Until a point where mining may provide the capital to pay for itself and provide a profit dilution will continue and the share price will be unable to sustain any level under that dilution.
Real. It is soon to be subpenny and only tangible mining will reverse that trend. No amount of hype and "soon" talk will provide sustainable growth of the share price.
Real. If "soon" doesn't happen soon then this stock will fall into the abyss and a reverse split will be implemented wiping out commons entirely.
It isn't about if there is good or isn't. It's about the ability of this company to create, sustain and be profitable in the very near future. It doesn't look to me to be all that "soon". I see a lot of "sampling" and hype to sell stock and an inability to be profitable within a timeframe that would save stockholders.
Perry has told you that the company and the stock are two entirely different beasts. Stockholders can be sacrificed to keep the company alive. In other words, believing that they will find gold doesn't necessarily mean you will be saved. The likely outcome regardless is that shareholders are cannibalized in the process.
Then And only then will people truly understand the true difference between the company and the stock.
How much can they sell those pictures for??????
LMAO!!!!!!!!
Here we go. Ruby, Canada etc....the good hasn't gone anywhere. Yet the aims are made here daily about just how much is there and how easy it is to get to. 3 years later no gold. It doesn't add up. So much hype that makes nonsense when compared to current events and a 3 year timeline right????
Endless delays, no gold brought up but interesting new channels pop up all the time and when one event passes with no results they just talk about other claims at other properties and new channels at the same properties.
It's the whole baffle them with bullshit scenario. If you think this is different than the rest you are mistaken. This is the exact same path all the failures take and the success stories avoid.
If this is nothing out of the ordinary then who is to be believed??? The ones claiming yesterday was the signal of the revaluation revolution using "$$$$" 4-5 times in each post or those who applaud the decimation of the company, claiming greatness is coming as the company burns to the ground???
Seems to me as if the real truth is that the company is in a free for all nose dive into the ground but still trying to distract the passengers by showing a couple pics of gold flakes on the planes in flight movie screen