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me2. got in @ .28 (ugga ugga)and down to .14 - not sure if this stock can ever get off its belly short of a massive hurricane that hits downtown Miami and I would rather sell this crap then see that happen.
says nothing really except speculative bs
let's hope so but "as election promises and congress" together have the weight of a feather.
pretty darn active board
well the whole market has been in the crapper but your right, this puppy is taking some major hits on no bad news and still has a ton of shorts out on it. seems to be having trouble finding a support level. still looks good for the end of 2008 and onward so I think patience is the key. hopefully Congress will surprise everyone and actually accomplish something besides fifty dollar lunches - like an energy bill that renews/enhances solar $$$. these are times that try trader's souls.
my point was that neither side gives any credence to each others thoughts and information so both are extremely unlikely to change their views. The facts on NSMG's fundementals are beyond reasonable dispute. How to interpret and prognosticate these fundementals seems the question and each side is totally vested in their own vision for the company's future. with both sides not open to each others information, it would seem each is just playing to the crowd. I definitely have a decision point IF my average price per share comes up. I think diversification into different markets is an excellant long term strategy for NSMG, after all, it is not like they can diversify their services from property resoration. i also hope that office expansion would boost revenues long term independent of hurricanes/etc and put some floor under the stock at about .15-.25. unfortunately, my optimism has faded as it seems (imho)that many holders of this stock see it as a pure cane play and will trade it accordingly (a ton of it will hit the market about the same time), and that on top of the poor fundementals means I jump on the right weather in the right places or av pps is met. Good luck again to all who actually own this stock.
Sounds like the annual pumper/dumper debate has begun in earnest........If this flies upward off the right weather patterns I will exit muy pronto - may even settle for break even just to not have to follow these silly arguments all summer. The financials speak for themselves so let's all chill out a bit and just watch the season play out and catch the first burst out of town....
profit takers took over today - we'll see if it bounces back tommorrow. huge news - we will see - hope so.
nice run today!
headed in right direction! we will see if the profit takers leave it be. maybe some shorts are getting nervous.
yes but why with oil going through the roof ?? Like i noted, lots of shorties out on this. Hopefully it finds some support around 10 and the shorts will begin to cover. Luckily, I bought a bunch of xco a month ago, so that soothes my ruffled feathers somewhat. ASTI is a long position for me so I hope eventually this stock will rebound.
starting to feel like a solar turkey to me. can't figure the pounding this stock is taking and still a bunch of shorts out on it.
diluters due tend to choke runs on this stock as evidenced last year, but the lack of storm activity etc etc also did little for momentum. with the right weather conditions my hope is the diluters let it run free for a bit (after all, it is a penny stock and therefore rife with manipulation) and we all make a few bucks this time around. i am now averaged down to about .11 from my initial ill fated buy at .28 last year. just trying to make the best of it like everyone else that got in at the wrong time. luckily, it is a minor play asset wise and life will go on either way.
ye olde pump and dump
I finaly completed 40K shares buy for averaging down purposes. took 8 biz days through TD. Juz be patient - sellers at .04 are out there. good luck
two shares are hard to get sometimes
i understand your approach although i put a bit more emphasis on Fife's heavy load then you tend to. my experience (at least with TDAm) is that the buys go through a lot easier then the sells on this particular stock. Maybe i need a different broker. In any event, I am now averaged down to 9 cents so we will see what gives this season and three blanks in a row seem a long shot, but you never know.
geez, all this name calling and breast beating over a three hundreths of a penny push. get real.
pretty active board
great - all the sellers need buyers.
this board seems to have degenerated into name calling born of two polar opposite viewpoints. i try to find a comfy point somewhere in between as i am holding more of NSMG then i am pleased with as a result of "averaging down" which is beginning to look like throwing good money after bad. it was most dissapointing to see storm etc activity in many of the states NSMG expanded into to no avail as far as profit this year. that tells me their expansion was poorly planned and executed with a hgh likelihood of underfunding the expansion. now next spring calls for more of the same with hopefully a better outcome. their management team is looing like the gang that could not shoot straight. yet here we are caught between cheerleaders and doomsayers. so what if nsmg SPURTS from .03 to .10 as its RUN this year. that would still be almost a third of its high point this year.... you would have to have very large accumulations to show any profit worth talking about and that assumes you get to unload before everybody else does. now lets go back and resume all the snide comments and rude remarks.
yes, especially with you being the main poster. looks like everything is under control.
careful there you rabble rowser :-0
all good board members will turn a deaf ear to your pithy comment.
Ja Vol!
apology accepted and extended back to you as my response to your email was not all that gracious compared to yours. Go nsmg!
pardon me. i was just going by company statements on new offices in new states opened over the last year or so. New Orleans hardly consitutes the norm for Atlantic cane activity, it seems Florida has been more the focus for potential storms. as to the tacky and rather nonsensical rat pack comment, your probubly a better person then that would signify, but internet anonymity seems to encourage such desultary behavior. BTW, my comments were positive about the company from my perspective, so i am really not sure why you flamed me as it simply represented my opine and was
certainly not bashing the company....
it is interesting that a company that does business in 7 states is judged solely as a cane company, when only 1 of those states is really in Atlantic cane territory. perhaps this diversification effort has/will enhance their bottom line by extending their business model to more generalized weather related situations and locations. then perhaps cane season will not continue to dominate their pps in the future. the sec investigation is troubling, but it is also for past activity and may not reflect present circumstances. i expect with all the SEC attention, the rats will scurry to their holes and wait for the next opportunity to screw people. the company seems acutely aware that they must diversfy to survive and keep the chance to thrive, alive.
it never made sense for fife to kill his potential golden goose by dumping shares. i think most posters here acknowledge that. the "twins" did put out links to much accurate info re fife and debt - which did not appear on this forum prior that i could find. their conjecture re ultimate outcomes is just that, personal opinion. in any event, it seems like .03 is the floor for now and the folks who matter are not letting it go below that.
yes, thanks for the input - bidding at the market price versus a .03 limit order might unplug the system but it ran at .03 most of the week i tried to order 20K in. i keep going back and forth between writing off the loss (no hope) or averaging further down (faint hope). i think i will wait to see what happens with the loans in January and what the next 1/4ly looks like. since i can afford to hold and wait i don't ever get itchy feet on any trade. this was my first venture into penny land and it has been quite an experience ! i certainly know alot more about this arena then i did before.
i tried .03 for a week but TDA could not get the job done (again).
yes, but too bad Nanosolar is not publicly traded (yet).
i understand your position and wish you the best of luck. i don't see the pps recovering until the fundementals are corrected and improved. let's see what this last Q shows [if they can get it out before june } they gotta get fife off their backs or just give him the company with even more shares and dilution. it's a real long shot at this point. IMHO.
Ummmmm, yes - i do and no - i do not follow it by the hour ! get real.
wow, shot all the way up to .04 today. yet to see if it ends up in such lofty territory at the close of biz. at least it is moving in the right direction !!
PS; short interest is going up sept and oct.
yes, saw that. Octillion Corp. "an alternative energy technology incubator" gotta love the terminology!! Marlin Caital says:
Mr. Honig is a co-founder of Marlin Capital Partners. Currently, Mr. Honig is serving as a member of the board of directors of Customer Acquisition Network and has served as a director of the Company since its inception in June 2007. He is currently the President and founder of GRQ Consultants Inc, an investor and consultant to early stage companies. Since 2003, Mr. Honig has advised and consulted in diverse areas including capital structure, debt financing, merger and acquisition, capital introductions all the way thru till the IPO/reverse merger is completed. Mr. Honig is also a registered broker-dealer and market maker in over 500 Nasdaq securities. From 1998-2001, he worked at Ramius Capital trading distressed equities, arbitrage, long/short and other specialized trading strategies.
caveat emptor
i second that.
he would let go of millions of shares just like that ? get real.
it was the company's statements, not mine - i just posed a few observations off their forward looking statements. good luck with your investment.
fife gains nothing by killing the company. in fact, he would be screwing himself. rich folks rarely screw themselves. he does best with a prosperous company that he bought super cheap. the next fin report will tell the story. if they have not improved earnings dramatically and starting to pay down debt, this could well be a sub penny stock for a long time as it is very difficult to be bullish on it right now. i must say that the company seems to have little regard for public perceptions by the dirth of news (something!!) they put out to the financial world. maybe the news ain't good. this looks more and more like a tax writeoff every day so trying to average down no longer makes sense to me.