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cashnik...clear as mud...I was on this instead of the other 137,468 possibilities, but that has nothing to do with knowledge? Only luck?
Does this mean I don't get to GLOAT? :~( Neal
cashnik...WOW!! Only insiders make money? I'll have to call my banker and explain that all my profits from USXP and AUML must be bogus! And then......all the profit I put away from QBID, making my remaining holdings FREE! And here I thought I was doing so well.
OR....OR....is it that you have a timing problem? I don't know, becuase I don't know you. But, thanks for the advice on "not investing" in these shady companies........but, I think I'll hold a while longer, if you don't mind. But, I'll try not to use any of your money (if you sell, I may have no choice....sorry) :~) LOL
There's got to be something better to do on a slow Sunday afternoon......but, the Yankees just whipped up on Boston AGAIN, so I get to GLOAT!
cashnik...we know the vol and current pps doen not reflect that 35 billion shares are in the O/S. Try reading again......it helps to eliminate the possibility of an attempted hostile takeover.....it dampens the plan before it ever gets started. Understand? Neal
cashnik...we know the vol and current pps doen not reflect that 35 billion shares are in the O/S. Try reading again......it helps to eliminate the possibility of an attempted hostile takeover.....it dampens the plan before it ever gets started. Understand? Neal
Relative to the 50B shares A/S....what bothered me the most was the WHY? At least the post from RB addressed the possible answer.....It is done to eliminate the possibility of a hostile takeover. QBID is starting to get alot of attention and at these low pps, it wouldn't be hard to put together enough money to pick up controlling shares. I think Frank et al at least watch these boards, and they couldn't miss the concern over this discovery. Perhaps Frank will include a blurb in Monday's or Tuesday's PR about the dramatic increase in A/S. Wouldn't it be nice to read....."The CEO increased the A/S of QBID to 50 Billion shares to eliminate....whatever....and further protect....whatever....but, there are NO plans to ever put them in play....etc" That's what I need to hear....something that explains the WHY????????
And not to dwell on semantics or argue over these stinking definitions, but there's the "float" and there's the "public float" and probably submarines. Increasing the A/S is initially of concern and that is evident by 10,000 posts on many boards relative to it. So, Frank. if you're paying attention.....give us the reasons and let's move on. I was really enjoying the PR's. Neal
This makes good sense as to possible reason for an increase in A/S....from Doc on RB forum: y: doc200310
18 Sep 2004, 11:22 PM EDT
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Authorized(AS) versus outstanding(OS) /Float
Autorized shrares-> Shares that company can issue should they need that at any time .
Outstanding--> shares that been held by company , officers and investors
Float--> shares been traded at open market and held by investors.
Why most companies has huge ammount of AS? this is very important deterent against hostile take over , some companies increase the AS when they feel they could be a target of hostile takeover. Lets say viacom want to buy out QTN and not willing to pay huge tag , often in such situations they may start organized bashing campaign to keep PPS down and keep buying the QTN shares at the open market at bargain price , now when time comes to buy out the company , they dont have to pay for shares already bought , lets say the OS was egual to the authorized and that number is 9 bil shares , then if they buy 4.5 billion shares at the open market , all they have then is to buy the remaining 55% that been held by QTN and that what they call hostile takeover.
small companies been many times a victim of hostile takeover , so when a company feels that it may be target of buyout or hostile takeover , then they increase the AS as a deterent for obvious reasons.
To my knowledge QTN had 15 billion authorized , and 9-10 billion shares Outstanding , of that 9-10 billion outstanding Frank owns 51% or 4.5-5 billion shares , the officers in QTN may own other 2-3 billion shares substracted from the OS would be the float which is about1-2 billion shares .
Having said that , I did not verify yet the most recent Authorized share number , but if true that it is about 30-50 billion shares , I will not be suprised or worried , even if Authorized was 300 billion shares , it may just tells me that QTN been targeted for hostile takeover or buyout.
Hope that help explain that Authorized share issue .
Good Luck to all QTN investors.
dkgross...as much as that sounds terrible for the current stock holders, that's the way it has to work in a bk, and that's the way it should work in our capitalistic society....thanks to Benjamin Franklin. The same thing happens if you're a limited partner and the project goes bk...you lose! But, that way the company has a chance to come back from the ashes and try again. Same thing for individuals who go BK........They get to start again. Only in America! Neal
Right on...as usual, Big Tips! Neal
Doc...don't see a problem with advertisers because this is pay per view....you arn't going to see the advertising unless you have subscribed to QBID.(in which case, you have no problem with gay and lesbian stuff) Secondly, I got an answer to my question: Where would there be any advertising. I have never seen an advertiser on any pay per view...HBO, Showtime, etc. Well, it seems that it will be a mix.....ie. the movies will NOT be interrupted with any advertising, but the other shows, WOW and things like that, will have advertising......kind of a hybrid. Not bad! Neal
Dr...maybe it has to do with these 'equity" positions: ===> 3 June 04: "Successful Industry Launch Generates Interest from Carriers, Advertisers and Investment Leaders. PALM SPRINGS, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 3, 2004 -- WALL STREET TUNES INTO Q TELEVISION NETWORK; SUCCESSFUL INDUSTRY LAUNCH GENERATES INTEREST FROM CARRIERS, ADVERTISERS AND INVESTMENT LEADERS. Q Television Network (Pink Sheets: QBID - News) announces details surrounding the results of its industry launch, which began June 1. Within the first day of the network's availability on Intelsat America's 7, 129 degrees West, Channel 1, Q Television received considerable response from potential carriers and advertisers seeking more information regarding the network and its anticipated public launch. As a result, network executives will travel to New York City June 6 - 11 to meet with private equity funds, hedge funds and securities dealers. All of these firms have indicated a strong interest in the upcoming launch and the opportunity for equity participation. In addition, the executives also have appointments scheduled with cable companies and advertisers to present the current direction of Q Television Network. We anticipated that the soft launch would generate lots of inquiries regarding the availability of Q Television for carriage and advertising, notes president Frank Olsen. Yet we were amazed how quickly everything has moved forward within the past 24 hours. The network expects to announce major contracts within the coming weeks."
From Newsweek: Outstanding Shares
Abbreviations
# SHARES OUTSTANDING — #Shrs
Unit Measure: 1 = 1,000,000
Update Schedule: Weekly
Definition: The number of outstanding shares represents a stock's float. A large float is an indication of potential liquidity which is a requirement of some institutional investors.
cintrix...I don't think you have that right. O/S is the total amount of shares issued and in the hands of investors available for trading. That should not include restricted shares until those restricted shares are released. IMHO.....and only opinion, as I don't know for sure. Neal
Another thought...isn't 35 billion 50b - 15b - 35b, 175 million dollars (.005 x 35 billion)? And isn't that real close to the amount of funding previously announced? Maybe that's the collateral in the form of restricted shares......is this thinking even close to reality? Pay back the funding and you eliminate the restricted shares????? Neal
Another thought....when we say the A/S is 50 billion(assuming it's correct), can the A/S contain restricted shares? And if so, who has that breakdown? Also, I believe that the O/S CANNOT contain restricted shares. Correct? Neal
foxy...some merit to your comments. Do I remember correctly that there were some 1 year restricted shares? Is that possible? Can shares be restricted with a time period? Neal
AAAARRRRRGGGGG! Short and to the point. I spent the last two days posting about the O/S.....hardly even a comment. Well...it's got everyone's attention now.
1. Reverse split.....I know it's often most often bad...but not always. Useful splitting. The reverse split is not always just a futile attempt to tread water. One little known use of the strategy is to prepare a company’s stock for an IPO when insiders hold a majority of shares. Here, a reverse split is perceived as a trade-off for the dilution of privately held shares.
2. Our recent Guru, Marco, said something about placements of restricted shares coming up....????????
3. May just be the way it has to go...Frank has to pay for all of this advertising.....then maybe the loans or buy backs or both reduce the A/S.
4. For months there have been posters who are able to talk to Frank....why not ask him? Everyone send an e-mail to QBID demanding an explanation of this dilution.?????? WELL????? IMHO Neal
Ron...fair enough. As soon as I see Kathy Kay in the raw holding a sliver in a tray, I'm buying it. Anything is possible! And I do love your positive attitude.......and it does have merit. These are the PENNIES! Neal
So, you take this pie that's been cut into 9 billion slivers and you cry because no one will buy it at .25/slice. So, you put signs around it with big red arrows saying..."Special! On Sale! Only .10/slice" And still you get no sales. You hire a radio guy to come in and promote it, and people still just look at the sliver and the price of .05 and smile and walk away. So, you hire two young girls in bikini's to stand next to it and still no sales. So, you hire a gorgeous chick, nude from the waste up to hold the slivers next to her volumtuous B........ Hey wait a minute. Now that might work! I take it all back. There might be a way! :~) Neal
Here's what I told RB relative to pps....it is a truism, anyway you slice it!
y: nealgalt
17 Sep 2004, 10:20 AM EDT
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You take this big pie and cut it into 8 pieces and sell it at $1 per slice. Were you to slice it into slivers about 1/32 " in width....you'd be doing good to get a penny a slice.
This stock has a O/S of something like 9 billion shares and you guys are expecting it to behave like a stock with 128 million shares in the O/S. Ain't going to happen! So, the trick is....we need news on the buy back program (positive), because that can change the math. IMHO Neal
Don't forget, Time Warner has been involved for a long time in a BIG way:
27 June 03: Now prominently posted on Triangle's web sites: ON QBID SITE: <><> "Qbid takes Pride in the announcement of TTN, inc., in which Qbid has a vested interest, concerning their relationship with Time Warner Cable. For further information please see TTN's website at http://www.triangletelevisionnetwork.com " ... and ON TTN SITE: <><> "TTN PROUDLY ANNOUNCES A 10 YEAR NATIONAL CONTRACT WITH TIME WARNER CABLE. Target Cities and Launch Dates are currently being reviewed and will be announced soon.
Now when you go to NASDAQ site and get a quote on QBID and click on NEWS it's starting to look like a stock on the move. I know lots of investors that quick click the news on the NASDAQ site and we're starting to look good now. Perception IS our reality...everything else is illusion. And this is my opinion...expressed before...but I SMELL A BUY OUT in the near future. Someone is going to buy up QBID. ( 0 - 6 months) IMHO Neal
That really is a good post skunks! EOM
You just got to love the Red Socks...You've just got to love any team that's almost as good as the New York Yankees! IMHO Neal
Now that I've got your attention....how much is this large O/S holding us back? I think that the day a PR comes out re-addressing the buy back program in a positive way, that's when the pps will jump! Just an opinion.....but, a well educated one!
I just went on a balanced diet.....that's one cookie in each hand! Makes sense to me! And for those less educated, experience is always good. In fact, experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again!
Now....anyone want to comment on the huge O/S, or is that an off limits subject? See how stealthy I am? Neal
I'm beginning to think that the O/S is holding us back and will dampen this beautiful PR Blitz. I hope it ain't so......but, this stock should be climbing by now. IMHO Neal And I'm trying hard not to have even a little negative thought in my busy day!
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charltuna...and that would be on the wife's side of the bed? LOL
Opportunities always look bigger going than coming! Neal
I havn't got the foggiest idea who Jack E Jet is, but it sounds great to me. What do astronomers know about Hollywood stuff, anyway? But, I'm real good at counting and multiplying things like pps times my number of shares. Guess I'll make out, somehow! LOL
I think this is the PR Derby I referred to....PR's on everything....forcing exposure everywhere. I know it worked for USXP as I rode it from .008 to .13. Let's HOPE! Neal
I'm still waiting for the PR Derby. This whole thing is set up beautifully for PR after PR after PR.......PR on Programming, PR on each carrier, Pr on subscriptions, Pr on Revenues ( I remember one company I was in, started making money for the first time, so they had $7,800 dollars in revenues vrs. $3 for the previous quarter....that came out on the PR as a 12,000% increase in revenues, or something like that...the pps went wild), PR on advertisers, each and everyone.....etc. and etc.
Once it starts, there could be a PR season for QBID to drive the pps forward. IMHO Neal
Words of wisdom.....since everyone is in a "Tizzy."
Don't worry about what they are thinking on the RB board. They don't do it very often. Neal
Most interesting with the PR and "Marc". I'm going to sit back and listen to Big Tips and Skunks, and when I see an endorsement by Goldwing on Marc (if) I may buy another ton of this stuff to add to my current ton. IMHO
Skunks.."wonder if this is the technology Frank referred to recently?" Right on again.....you're using your brain. Good pick up! Neal
Right on Skunks! Also, I noticed the one blurb from Marc about AMEX....this is the second or third time I've read something about a change of market. Was involved with another stock trying to do that....not easy, lot's of requirements to be met. BUT...if met...WOW. Just an early comment at this time, but we'll see as we move along if that becomes possible. Then....you would be looking at $$$$$$$. Anyway, not close enough to that subject for it to be a discussion, but something to file away in the memory to be recalled hopefully later. IMHO Neal
I'm impressed. Frank didn't leak one word about a major signal problem until the solution was at hand. Without the solution, that would have been very bad news and the pps would have gone down. This was the way to do it! I'm impressed.
Re: Marc.......Hmmmmmmm certainly called this AM Pr correctly. Now I've got both eyes open. Could be a WOW!!!!! Neal
Big Tips...A Date!!! A Date!!!! 10/1 is the new date. I feel much better now. I work better with a date in mind....like a carrot hanging from a string tied to a big stick enticing a jack ass to move forward. It works for me.
10/1/04....we explode! IMHO Neal
onyx pup...were that the case, the pps would now be at .05. Because I did, indeed, have a great lunch on 9/4/04. Neal
Thanks Big Tips.....I'm working on my first cup of Samatra Organic this morning and already I've gone from plan A (ALL we have to do is launch) to Plan B.....All we have to do is launch with multiple carriers and the pps will bust loose! GIVE me more carriers....PLEASE! BTW, plan C is reduce the O/S with a buy back program, and it may be the most influencial of the three.
Good luck all.....sooner or later is the Bet! IMHO Neal
I think Frank's definition of a launch is different than Big Tips, RCN's, Logo's and who knows who's the same. Looked it up in the dictionary....launch..."a small boat."
And here I thought it was like in "rocket launch" with the pps going straight up. I guess we havn't "launched" yet, because I'm still treading water. I'm just going to watch the pps....when it hits .13 It HAS LAUNCHED!!!!!!!! That's like letting everyone else tell me when it's launched????? So be it....someone lite the fuse! IMHO Neal
I think the hardest part here is not having a definite date for something to happen. It was waiting for 9/4/04 and the pps was going to rocket with the launch. Now I don't have a date in mind....just WAIT! That's the tough part.....no planned date! IMHO Neal Of couse, someone can give me one.....:~)