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I agree with you. I'm just saying, in this instance, we seem to have exhausted what we can do at this point. And, certainly, we will not gain anything by continuing to annoy Martin with our calls. Clearly, he won't be speaking to any of us anytime soon. So, its a wasted effort and could be counterproductive if he is actually trying to get things done.
All just my humble opinion.
That's not what I said. Go back to my previous post. If you actually look back properly, charts don't apply to this stock. I didn't say charts don't matter. No need to run on emotion, just read carefully.
Just using common sense. All those other things have gotten us nowhere. So, I think its sound advice.
Charting will not work with this stock. It's a pink sheet and is solely news and momentum driven. Just my opinion.
BOARD PLEASE READ: I believe it is counterproductive to call Martin. We haven't gotten anywhere with him in the past and I'm sure it's incredibly annoying to him and delaying what he needs to do if we keep calling him. He's an elderly man and doesn't need additional aggravation.
Of course, it would be great to have someone in that position who speaks english and understands the sytem and how to do things in an expeditious manner, but we are stuck with him. That's it. Let's not exacerbate the situation by name calling and calling him on his cellphone.
I didn't realize 2C was upset with Martin because he didn't return his phone call. It sounds like a personal matter and he should not be posting 'keep calling Martin'. He should not bring his issue to the board in my opinion.
Regarding the dividend, it is my understanding that all the nasdaq questions regarding the dividend have been answered and submitted. There is nothing more for Martin or Jeremy to do on the dividend front. It is in nasdaq's hands. So, hopefully, it will be happening within days.
They still anticipate a PR this week, wednesday or thursday from my understanding.
I'm as frustrated as anyone else, but let's try to see it a bit differently and continue to be patient for a few more days and let's see how things unfold. Thanks.
This is all just my humble opinion.
I thought it would make you look. LOL. Well, I think we're all kinda on the same page and we are all frustrated at the lack of information. So, based on my understanding, we will see a PR this week. Here's hoping.
By the way, I wonder how Blackjack's lunch with Warren Buffett and Bill Gates went. I'm sure they meet with him on a weekly basis to get his advice on the market :)
Yes, just check out their latest PRs. It's all there.
He has answered all of my questions. Why would you say he won't answer my questions. Where did you get that? He answered every question clearly and in a friendly manner. Not sure where you are getting he refuses to answer my questions. It just means I don't necessarily post every single word he says to me.
That is contrary to my conversation with Jeremy. He didn't sound depressed as you are implying. He sounded pretty positive about a PR coming this week and we would get more details about the buyout and dividend.
He didn't sound down and angry about the company as you imply. Just the opposite. He was very friendly and as informative as he could possibly be.
OK Blackjack, as requested, here is the post where you predicted .08 last week.
Posted by: Blackjack1
In reply to: PASHA who wrote msg# 55140 Date:5/30/2007 10:41:50 AM
Post #of 56776
For my clients my target was always 0.10. As stated in post. I have told traders this would be going down hard through the end of week. My personal trades are much different then my institutional trades as a fund manager. I have only given you what I'm trading per my clients. Back on the 16th when everyone was panicking because the PR stated they would announce BEFORE market open, an they didn't I was buying all. That was my personal buying. If your asking my personal buying it will be at the end of week when the share price is around 0.08. Everyone is fine at this level due to where its going.
That's basically what Jeremy told me as well. So, hopefully, there will be followthrough this week, maybe tomorrow, with an update and the closing date.
Also, MMs can trade shares back and forth between each other at the bid to give the illusion of a sell off. I'm not saying MMs are bad or evil, but when they can gain from it, they do it.
Blackjacks flip flopping posts below:
Right now this stock is cocked an ready. Whenever you see a pink trading over a million shares within 1 cent its ready and waiting. The closing date will be the trigger. I know of many that are waiting for the moment the PR is released.
LOL. You DID predict .08 last week. You probably delete your own comments that are not accurate.
You've made one call after the fact. So, how can you say you've made exact calls for years???
Gotta go, Warren Buffett is waiting to have lunch with me.
Please let's not start with the Martin toilet flushing incident again. I'm way too tempted to jump on board again :P
Without doubt, I think you're absolutely right. Based on the replies to his messages, I'm sure he thinks he has everyone on the board over a barrel.
It's really odd though. He intimates that he controls the stock market but has all this extra time to post day and night about a 10 cent stock.
I sent him a private message asking him why he thinks it'll go to .21 only. Of course, no reply.
However, I think a lot of people fall prey to this kind of manipulation unfortunately.
This reminds me of when I was in AOB. I bought it when it was aobo.ob at around $1. There were people like him that said it was a scam, that it would run once more then crash to zero, etc. because it was a bulletin board stock.
Anyway, I held and accumulated. Eventually it went to the American Exchange and then the NYSE. It hit a high of $14 and is currently trading around $10.
So, if I had listened to those baffoons, I would've panicked and sold at $1. Instead I made a great deal of money and moved on.
These boards are almost completely anonymous and anyone can say whatever they like. Unfoturnately, some people believe anything that's printed on a message board. If you do your own DD and stick to that, you'll be fine. Anyone can say they control the stock market and are friends with Warren Buffet and Bill Gates. If they really were, why would they be posting all the time about a penny stock.
Think carefully when you trade and know why you are doing it.
All just my humble opinion.
You said .25 last week.
Thanks for your update.
This is very much in line with my conversation with Jeremy last week.
Hope to see a PR this week! GLTA.
And, yes, I'll stop the toilet flushing jokes. I agree, I overdid it.
He's still learning the toilet flushing morse code technique from Martin. He has not yet perfected it.
Has anyone called Jeremy Krause today to get an update of if there's a PR coming out this week as well as the divi?
I've called plenty of times and perhaps others would like to call as well.
His number is in all the recent AURC PRs.
here is a fact:
5-9-07
"Aurus Corp (PINKSHEETS: AURC) advises its shareholders that following the announcement of the dividend for shareholders on record as of February 15, 2007, it has completed the steps required to have the dividends distributed to the shareholders that qualify.
The shareholders benefiting from this dividend shall receive, by mail, their share certificates without any action on their part or any surrender of certificates.
The shares shall be posted during the course of the next week and shall be included in any and all buyout proposals."
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, doh
I think in Martin speak, that would be five flushes.
Martin did call joenatural back. Apparently, he flushed several times, but joenatural couldn't understand the morse code, so he couldn't report back to us.
I believe we'll hear about the dividend this week and also hopefully get a PR regarding production and buyout.
Martin's other businesses:
I believe he owns a professional toilet flushing service. It's actually very popular in the Montreal area. Catching on like wild fire.
2C, regarding following up. I've spoken to Jeremy a couple of times and he didn't seem to have any more info than us. He did say he speaks to Martin every day and Martin is also waiting for news to release.
I tried Martin's phone number again last week and someone just picked up and then hung up the phone. Nothing was said.
So, what's the point of constantly contacting Jeremy and Martin if they can't or won't give us info?
Do you have any other thoughts that we can do to get them moving?
It could be restricted shares in Martin's toilet.
Thanks for the update joenatural. Do you think Martin's toilet flushing is some sort of morse code?
That's my point. I don't understand his beef with MG. It's very confusing as he doesn't seem to elaborate clearly on the matter. I can't imagine that MG has the entire company function in his hands. Is he saying that that management has no control and it completely lays with MG? I can only imagine if management wanted to release a PR, they can do so. They're supposed to managing billions of dollars worth of assets and they don't know how to release a PR on their own? I seriously doubt it.
If I was managing a company and I told a staff member to release a PR, and they didn't, I would see it as my responsibility to make sure it happens. Not to say, Oh well, I told someone to release it and they didn't. So, there's nothing I can do about it. That's the very nature of management, to oversee and make sure things get done. If they don't then get it done yourself.
As I said previously, you may want to give the Investor Relations guy a call on Monday. He's very friendly and tries to be as informative as possible. I spoke to him this past week and from my understanding from the call, Martin is also waiting for news from Russia to release. Also, from my understanding, we may see a PR regarding production in early June. I don't know exactly what that means or if its going to happen. That's all I got out of the conversation. It sounds like he's waiting just like us to get more info.
This is all just my humble opinion.
Well, when a company does not release information in a timely manner and during such an important time (like a buyout) it often makes investors panic. Now, I believe we are being preyed upon by people like Blackjack who call us novices and tell us he runs the market and we don't know what we're doing.
His job seems to be to instill fear and panic, so it creates confusion and sells into his hands. I honestly don't believe he has the PR in his hands. If he did, and if he controls the entire stock market, why is he on this board day and night? Shouldn't he have bigger fish to fry?
Of course pink sheets are enormously risky and often turn out to be scams, that's the reason they are pink sheet stocks and that's why the risk is high but the rewards can be enormously high as well. I think we should all, including myself, sit back and see how the next few days unfold. I don't think there's anything we can do until we see another PR. Hopefully, it will be more than one sentence this time. GLTA! and have a great weekend.
If you have doubts, why don't you call Jeremy Krause, their investor relations guy. He is very friendly and has a bit of information to offer, as opposed to this board which I belive is mere speculation and fear mongering.
All just my humble opinion.
2C please answer me this. From my understanding in reading between the lines of your postings, you seem to be blaming Martin for the lack of proper admin of PRs. From my understanding from my call to investor relations, Martin is waiting for news from Russia to release. Apparently, all PRs come from Russia and then are disseminated to Martin to release immediately. Apparently, sometimes PRs are released directly from management in Russia with a copy to Martin. So, is Martin really to blame? Isn't he just waiting to receive news to release?
Why would you call Joenatural a liar? You seem to be losing your composure since Blackjack's message. Are you really that afraid of Blackjack and since you did not respond to his comments about you, do you agree with him now? Seems like you're doing quite a bit of backtracking now. Your wife went to Russia and made a video of operations. But you don't sound so sure now of anything about this company.
I just spoke with Martin!!
It was very interesting actually, he flushed the toilet again.
You have to remember, blackjack seems to think he controls the entire stock market. He has stated several times how powerful he is. I wonder why someone so "powerful" in the stock market would waste his time posting on a measily pink sheet message board. You would think he'd be tring to buyout Google or Yahoo.
I believe he shifts his story like the wind because he doesn't seem to really know what the real story is. Does a truly 'powerful' hedge fund manager sit and post all day on a pink sheet board? I wouldn't think so.
All just my humble opinion.
It's interesting that 2C has disappeared only to come back from time to time to say he's around. I wonder if he's getting cold feet. He's cheerleaded this stock like crazy but for some reason has disappeared.
Blackjack: That's your holier than thou post? Some snotty remarks and that's it? Where's the content of this magical PR that you said you had.
Do you think you're really telling us something we don't already. You really think we're idiots don't you. Pink sheets are always extremely risky. I don't care if its a scam or not, I just want to make money.
Stop talking down to us and get a life.
Blackjack your posts are definitely confusing and inconsistent. You've been pushing the stock this week saying that the high will be .25, then you changed to .19, then you said all your clients are in 100% now then you said to make sure to get in Friday at .08 which didn't happen.
Now, you're going to release a doom and gloom message at 9pm that will apparently get you banned. Why the lack of consistency. One just has to read your previous posts to realize that they need to take what you say with a major grain of salt.
If you're that much of a big wig and you can easily buy and sell all of us, why do you bother on this piddly little board? Shouldn't you be having lunch with Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?
Sorry but your posts don't seem to add up.
I believe he's here to create doubt. I believe he doesn't have the most up to date information.
Some folks are more on top of it than he.
You said a few days ago you'd be out at .25. Now it's .19? Why have you changed your tune?
Not so sure of yourself anymore?
And I don't believe you have the most up to date information.
Some of us are more on top of it than you.