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SHORTYS had their opportunity to cover. We all knew there were millions of shorted shares from the Lofty days. Something had to give. We have a situation where the stock may be in stronger hands now. Some by choice some not. Sometimes you have to hit bottom before you start looking up! 2007 is going to be a GREAT year for SLJB shareholders. Coach
Shareholders.... NEVER QUIT!! We had nothing yesterday. Stay positive. Don't call anyone. Let them work the deal or cover their a_ _ whatever the case may be. They said we would be getting more info and answers this week. STAY POSITIVE!! IF it's a scam as some of you think we will find out. THET ARE BEING WATCHED!! There are still forces that want to keep this down. STAY POSITIVE! GIVE STEVE & CO. a chance to prove themselves. Coach
Jannie & lalapalu... You both are very kind. Thank You!! Coach
Cm3i........ Thank You Very Much!! Coach
robotrader.... I guess I would fall in group #3 of your chart if your negative outlook is indeed true. Hopefully this makes you feel a little better about yourself. Your attitude doesn't do me or anyone else, still in this, any good. You sound like a man of true wisdom. Good Luck to you. Coach
WHY GIVE UP?? NO REASON TO QUIT! You don't have answers. It MAY NOT LOOK GOOD but none of you really knows what happened.
Believe me, I feel like I've been kicked in the stomach and the pain won't go away.
The fact is, that's the stock market. Anything can happen in business. Did you ever think that what is happening (guarded information at this time) is for the good of the company and shareholders. Maybe Steve and Petar were misled and/or treated unjustly. Maybe it is all a scam and we've lost. But I don't know that, so I choose not to accept defeat and give up!!
I'm not trying to be a cheerleader but damn there could be many different scenarios. It sure wasn't a basic Pump & Dump. There is a company. The stock is still alive, it hasn't been halted. The RCMP looked into it and NO arrests. Steve is working on something with attorneys. Maybe it is CYA but maybe it isn't. The last PR mentioned NO past business interests or transactions. Could be there wasn't any to mention. Could be they aren't allowed to reference them now due to advice from attorneys OUR company is paying.
JUST DON'T QUIT. Hang in there until you win. I'll admit defeat if that's the case, whenit's proven. Then I'll dust myself off and get back at life again. That's what winners do. True winners all experience losing but they just don't quit. Be a winner. Look for the positive. Help the process here. Don't bring others down, were all worried enough. It's not over yet. You don't know the truth. STAND YOUR GROUND! Coach
itwillhappen.... I don't know any more than you as to what is going to happen after the first of the year. I'd like to think that the company is real, wants to succeed and cares about who has financed their plan and strategy. I do think it is a long term play at this point unless we get the surprise of our lives in the first quarter next year. I have to STAY POSITIVE. I'm in deep here like others. Deep is a relative term as to what your financial situation may be. What has occurred is going to put a damper on the Holiday season for many to say the least. GOOD LUCK MY FRIEND! Coach
Airys418.... I wrote a letter to Steve Sulja (Post# 210917). I am working in Iraq and I don't have the ability to get the letter to him. I would appreciate it if you or Stock H.O.G. could see that it is sent to him. I hope that we are on the same team here. I need some help with this. I don't have the capability from here. Thank You! Coach
FFB... You're RESPECTED here. You didn't mess up. You were excited and stated what you believed to be true. Some of it may still be. Maybe not. But until things are known and proven I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE UP. I never quit in my life. I have admitted defeat when that was the case but I don't believe that is the case yet.
You have been and still are an inspiration here. I followed your posts daily for months. I have been posting for less than a week. I always considered you an excited realist and I felt the same way. Because we may have been misinformed, uninformed and possibly misled that is not on us. Only you know your honest intentions and you still have my respect by virtue of still being here as a good soldier and admitting that you may have messed up. Keep going we need you now MORE THAN EVER! Coach
spaceheater....ALL SHAREHOLDERS Here is my story of Nov. 16TH. Interested to know what your take of the situation is?? I have over 500,000 shares now and I plan to average down more on Monday. I hope I'm doing the right thing. Only time will tell.
My opinion is that someone(??) made a play to manipulate the PPS down drastically and fast so shareholders couldn't react. In a fortyeight hour period between late Nov. 14TH thru the 16TH we witnessed;
1) Petar mentioning on the blog there would be no dividend paid which raises SHORTYS tax bill on profits from 15% to 35%
2) A missed date certain (again) for AFs
3) A 2 million share dump on the 16TH confirmed by our poster who diligently posted our charts. Kicking in the panis sell.
4) The Article in "The Winsor Star" showing "Black Pete".
At the time I happened to be at the computer and I was watching the price drop dramatically and tried to sell all my shares 337,000 (at that time). At the BLINK of an eye they were ALL bought while the stock dropped like a rock. I quickly went back in and bought back as much as I could which amounted to 298,000 shares because I realized that something smelled very bad. The sharks were in the water waiting.
ADVANTAGE: Shortys to cover / SLJB tax reasons & to prove damage for Litigation vs. WS / New Partner for cheap buy in / Insider longs to load up.
DISADVANTAGE: Anyone who sold / Unsuspecting Longs (now, myself included)
I've been averaging down in the hopes of getting back some of my money since. Coach
ibreken... My sources as to how people feel about Steve, Petar and the Sulja Family came from posters on this board that have had contact with people from company and the area. I have certainly read plenty about how others like yourself feel about them.
Personally I'm very disappointed to say the least. Maybe I'm in denial here. Very well could be, but we still are unsure as to what occurred with this stock. It's obvious to me that there has been missed dates for AFs and manipulation of PPS. Why? By whom?
I'm interested in what your take on the situation is here. I'm certainly not ignorant but I may be misinformed or uninformed. Enlighten me. Do you have a theory of your own besides they are all thieves? What is your take on the situation? Coach
VERY Interesting how Steve Sulja became CEO again immediately after a poster contacted his wife at his family residence. He certainly has the impression he can be reached. Petar was more than willing to meet with Airys & Stock (even brought his passport). Neither he nor Petar are running anywhere. Steve's family still has a good name in the area for now. It was even mentioned that Petar was respected in town. VERY INTERESTING.
Steve Sulja is (supposedly) currently involved with attorneys over something. All of a sudden MR. PR himself is speechless?
The shareholders are being stalled for some reason. Are they protecting the company or themselves?? Are they really trying to get the AFs corrected?? Were they decieved as far as a transfer of assets?? Are they in the process of getting assets in the shell?? Are they in the process of some kind of deal concerning ownership?? Are they stalling so SHORTY friends can cover?? Are they stalling so a new partner can buy in cheap?? Is it an end of year tax issue??
WE OWN SLJB WHATEVER IT IS AND WE DESERVE TO KNOW!!!!
ANY Poster w/FAX capabilitiy PLEASE Fax #210917 to Steve Sulja at the company for me. SLJB Fax# is 519-738-9079. I am currently on a mission in Iraq and I don't have the capability. Thank You! Coach
bull66... I am located on a military base in Iraq as a contractor. I have just been informed that we don't have fax capability. I would have to scan and then e-mail the info. Could you help me by faxing the info for me? I realize that we probably wouldn't get a responce, but someone at the company would view it. I, for one, believe that it is worth it.
We are not all a bunch of animals here. We are people with hearts and souls and families that we love and protect. I would like someone at the company to get that impression rather than the common legal threats. I feel that the negative messages just get turned off. We really still don't know for sure what is happening. Hopefully they are trying to do the right thing. Thank You! Coach
Thank You Frenchy!!
PLEASE Fax Post #210917 to Steve Sulja or if you have his fax number post it for me. Thank You!! Coach
LETTER TO Steve Sulja: As shareholders we have The RIGHT to know what we own! If mistakes were made, if partners backed out, that's business. But WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT WE OWN!! There are many people here that have hard earned money invested and the outcome of your business plans/strategies will seriously affect either for good or for bad. That was OUR risk. I am currently working in Iraq myself. I had dreams of this investment doing well enough to get me out of this hell hole and back to my family and friends sooner rather than later. There are many families whose Holiday season is now in a negative light due to NO information from you and your friend Petar.
People are resilient. We love good news and we can deal with bad news but indifference is disrespectful in this situation. Some poor people are looking at the possibility of their finances being ruined because they invested in YOU and YOUR business plans and PRs. The appearance is that you and your friend Petar don't care about us now. That's unacceptable.
We believed in you and your FAMILY owned business of 20+ years. We believed YOUR WORD in the PRs. We believed that Petar was "The Deal Maker" not some A_ _ named "Black Pete". I remember someone posting that they had called your home and spoke to your wife ( with respect and tact) and could hear children in the background. I am a coach. I am a good judge of character though not I'm not always right. It doesn't feel right to me that you would be SO HEARTLESS as to let these people go on suffering with no hope and or explanation. I myself am looking at a substabcial loss here.
I want to believe you are a good person. I certainly felt that I was investing in a good person and company. I want to believe you are in the midst of doing the RIGHT thing. If not I'd like you to know that most people have it wrong because GOOD guys DO NOT finish last. Why?? Because you reap what you sow. What goes around comes around. What you do comes back to you.
It would be my hope that you are bringing GOOD things upon your family and yourself. YOU WILL REAP WHAT YOU SOW!! Good or bad and WE don't have to be there to see it. As for your friend Petar, I wish him nothing but the best as well but he also will get what's coming to him and his family. I hope he reaps good things. I'm rooting for you guys. I have to. Go SLJB!! Coach
bizzyboy2.... I wish to apologize if I misunderstood. I'm not new to IHUB but I am a new poster. I'm not familiar with all the lingo. My emotions are running a bit high with everything that has occurred or not occurred with this company. I do appreciate the fact that you answered me and again I'd like to apologize. It was certainly a misunderstanding my part. Hopefully you will forgive me for my poor judgement and reaction. Thanks! Coach
Fishforbreakfast.... Looking for an honest answer! I just started posting yesterday and will join today or tomorrow. I have 501,149 shares PPS avg. of.069. I heard of the stock from a friend and I read all the posted DD on the board. I work in Iraq so I guess I got excited about the ME possibilities because I've been through Dubai 4 times and fully understand all the construction going on.
I thought I had a winner here. Something that would get me home more sooner than later. Airys gave me his opinion as did scorpio70. Stock H.O.G. is another whose opinion I'd like. Party, well he's Party. He wasn't as kind.
My question is, Where do you honestly feel SLJB is going. Is it a scam? Are parts of it a scam? Were they scammed by shorts and "The Windsor Star". Are they in on it? Is it a case of Thw white collar criminals getting theirs first and the company get an opportunity to grow in 2007. Is averaging down a worthwhile move in your opinion.
I'll invest on my beliefs as I already have. After seeing Dubai, hearing that Sulja Bros. was over 20 years old company and reading the posted DD I thought it was a good investment. I value your opinion.
What is your take on SLJB at the present time. I am working in the Iraq now. I can take R&Rs to do DD on this side if the Globe. I'd like to work with you, Airys, Stock and Nick. Coach
nickulliaua.... I'm from Vermont and currently working in Iraq. I have what I consider a considerable investment. My sister is actually a flight attendant for Delta. I could take R&R and meet you in Dubai if you're serious about doing some DD. Just a suggestion.
Actually I'd like to do some DD in Dubai myself but I will certainly need more info from the board or the company as to where to look and who to see.
Do we have a central depot for high end products?? Do we have an office there?? Do we own land for a hotel to be built on?? I can actually spend a few days so I could get alot covered (pictures etc.). The on going construction in Dubai alone is hard to imagine. It's incredible!! The number of cranes alone is crazy. I've been through Dubai 4 times now. Coach
Party: I would like to get your sincere opinion as to where you feel SLJB is heading. Is it worth averaging down??
I have always looked forward to your postings and skipped over many to read yours. In the past you were very informative.
Lately you seem to be coming across with a negative slant. Many short answers. What do you honestly think. No BS. Coach
scorpio70 Thank You for your insight. I certainly appreciate your sincerity and suggestions. I'm obviously a new poster and my typing needs work.
Anyway, your note was encouraging. I will most likely add to my position today in an effort to average down further.
Thank you again. We will have to get together for dinner after this all plays out. I'll let you choose what side of the lake to enjoy first. You're a good man. Coach
Who owns the Company you ask? See MSG# 208897 concerning the last sentence of the last PR. Something like it will become transparent as to who the real owners are overseas. I am in IRAQ. Keep in mind that a PR appearing on "Market Wire" at 2:15 AM may have been written in the ME at 9 or 10:15 AM. Just a thought. I only hope that someone with some REAL business savy from the ME is the true owner and they have a REAL plan for progress. If true they probably bought in on Nov. 16th at .01 to .02 cents while the shortys (who have been holding this down covered) during the orchestrated panic sell! Coach
Frankie J : What does IMO mean anyway??
Scorpio70: Great to here from you. Truly ejoyed the reminder of our beautiful homeland. As a former boat owner I've been to Wilsboro bay on several occasions and truly enjoyed myself. Unfortunately I'll be here for a while unless our investment here pays off somewhere close to what our "fine" BOD and CEO have promised in PRs. I hope to be home within a year or so and it would be a pleasure to meet you for a round of golf. We have some beautiful courses in the Burlington / Chittenden county area as well. I have many fine contacts via business, athletics and coaching in town. You would certainly enjoy yourself to say the least. Anyway, what is your take on the situation in SLJB, and if you don't mind answering, do you have a substancial interest? Coack
bizzyboy2: I don't appreciate your negativity and would appreciate it if you didn't bother to address me again. You seem like the kind of guy I' really like to meet in a bar, an alley on the street. Actually anywhere you'd like. It would be my pleasure. Coach
Nickulliana: Am I Power2dapeople or something like that? I'm not quite sure what you mean. I am an honest person which appears to be lacking by MANY on this board. I am a Shareholder so I believe this is a proper place to get info, share info and work together. I am a Coach so I know that hard work and a TEAM effort will accomplish goals. I am a firm believer that if we form our own type of info gathering team of honest members that has been started by Airys and Stock (as well as others) we can pressure the company to be transparent and/or organize to the point where we could have our own attorney or attorneys to represent our interests. I am totally against the lawlessness and and blatent thievery allowed by the SEC etc., etc., etc.
Tuslog: How would I go about contacting Steve Sulja, because I certainly will and I would be glad to help by sharing the conversation. Coach
Nick: No we didn't PM in August but I will be purchasing a membership today so we can in the future if you would like. On a side note I have a sister who is a flight attendant for Delta and a friend who is a cpatain for American. I'd also like to PM Airys and Stock as well. I never posted until yesterday. Thanks for getting back to me. Coach
nickulliana, Airys, Stock, PLEASE RESPOND, I can HELP! I was introduced to the stock by a friend of mine who plays the market. I have recently averaged down which is the reason I own so many shares. I was caught off guard as many were on the 15TH and 16TH of November. Yes, I certainly have to admit ignorance and a trusting heart of which I have learned has NO place in Pinkyland. I work in Iraq and have been for the past couple of years. I have seen the tremendous growth in Dubai and the UAB with my own eyes. I understood Sulja Bros. was a 20 year old family owned business that appeared to be getting into the exprot business where the products they supply are desperately needed. I listened to my friend and got caught up in the posibilities. I read all the posted DD on the board and felt very good about the company.
I have been following this board since mid August and found you, Airys, Stock HOG, Party and a couple of others to be very informative. I like many have friends involved too. Thank God NO family. I have NO choice but to hang in as a LONG at this point which were my original intentions. My dream was to do well enough in this stock to get back home sooner rather than later. I'd like to get back to my passion of coaching and mentoring young student athletes. I took a program that had not won a game in four years to an undefeated State Championship in 2004.
I'm from Burlington, Vermont. I came here in early 2005. I'm a good man with a good heart. I'd like to know if you honestly feel that we have a shot at this thing turning around. I appreciate what Airys and Stock tried to do on behalf of shareholders. I am willing to use my R&R time to do some DD here in the ME if it will help. I'm a team player. I have to know your true thoughts about if this thing can a will turn around. I can't afford to lose the cash. Sorry for the lengthy note. Thank You Coach!!!!!
ibreken: YES meaning, We have contracts, I'm screwed?
Do we have ANY confirmed GLOBAL contracts or am I displaying some real ignorance here. I own 500,000 shares at .06+. I am I screwed for CERTAIN??
DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE ANYTHING POSITIVE??
DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE ANYTHING POSITIVE!
to: toddeholden, THANK YOU! I guess I'm very frustrated, embarrassed and disappointed at this point. I have been working in a war zone in Iraq putting my life on the line for my family and myself to have a better future. I felt that I was making a very good move in this investment that hopefully would get me out of here and home sooner so I could go back to coaching a mentoring young student athletes. Well I may be here longer now but like I said I'll bounce back. Thank You for responding. It feels better just expressing myself. I'm a LONG whether I like it or not at this point. I own a little over 500,000 shares. Coach
WAKE UP! There are Roses to Smell. Money works with money to make more money. 1) Petar treat shareholders badly 2) Petar mentions in a blog that SLJB will not pay a dividend. 3) Petar misses AF disclosure several times including the 15TH 4) Windsor Star writes negative story 4) Someone dumps 2 million shares to start a panic sell. All in 48 hr. period. Coincidence?? ( MY BUTT!!).
Shortys were looking at paying 35% in taxes on their profits due to NO dividend. Have to cover by the 12TH. Due to manipulated panic sell they cover cheap and make a killing profit wise. Someone else is or has bought in and due to panic sell they buy in cheap. Drop in PPS shows damage to stock and credibility as far as SLJB is concerned which is fodder for litigation and a possible tax loss claim when the show how local sales have slowed in the same time frame.
Good news is we have a real company here that sells critically needed products. They have potenticial in the ME and Globally. Look for things to start heading in the right direction in the new tax year 2007. My guess is there are contracts signed and business occuring but it doesn't benefit the players to disclose anything financially at this time. The shortys are covered and may have agreed to leave us alone as a Thank You for coverage. We as shareholders are being stalled while the big money is grazing at the present time. Our turn will come within 2 to 4 months. I believe we will be pleasently surprised. Coach
Please REMOVE Non-Confirmed Info from our DD Board. Some of this has proven to be untrue or no longer true. It unfairly infuences new investors and board members. Please lets post what we know to be true by conformation only on the DD Board and reference the confirmation as well. Lets properly keep correct stats on our company. It is a means of keeping our company honest and recruiting the interest of serious investors who trust our posts. We want tranparency and honesty from SLJB. Let's begin again by being honest with ourselves and newbies.
I am a true long here. I believe the company has great potential. I have been working in Iraq for two years now. I've traveled through the UAB particularly Dubia. Our company has the products that are critically needed here, in China, Pakistan, lebanon and other countries as well. We are only a couple of deals away from greta things. OK, some mistakes were made both by the company and I also think by the board as well. Due Diligence is tough enough to collect. We have some excellent team players here. The moderators are great. I think people like FFB and others are honestly trying to help with DD and other info. Let's please clear the DD Board of anything that is not CONFIRMED so we ALL understand what we are invested in here. We are a TEAM whether we chose it or not we are a team here. I believe we should act like one. Thanks COACH
ERASE ALL DD BOARD POSTS THAT ARE NOT CONFIRMED. Only post confirmed contracts business transactions etc. Lets act like owners and hold these people accountable. Lets work together to HOLD THIS COMPANY TO THEIR WORD. We should look into hiring our own attorney to watch these guys. The SEC is not going to do it. Lastly if it is prven that they scammed us we should bah together to see that they get what they deserve.
Until we can prove that they illegally used us we should support our company. We do have to be more aggressive in our support. We have to hold them accountable. I read all of the posted DD. It played a role in my decision to invest. We SHOULD NOT BE POSTING ANYTHING THAT IS NOT CONFIRMED. Anything posted should have a reliable, factual point reference. In some cases we were our own worst enemy. Lets work together. Coach
ERASE ALL DD BOARD POSTS THAT ARE NOT CONFIRMED. Only post confirmed contracts business transactions etc. Lets act like owners and hold these people accountable. Lets work together to HOLD THIS COMPANY TO THEIR WORD. We should look into hiring our own attorney to watch these guys. The SEC is not going to do it. Lastly if it is prven that they scammed us we should bah together to see that they get what they deserve.
Until we can prove that they illegally used us we should support our company. We do have to be more aggressive in our support. We have to hold them accountable. I read all of the posted DD. It played a role in my decision to invest. We SHOULD NOT BE POSTING ANYTHING THAT IS NOT CONFIRMED. Anything posted should have a reliable, factual point reference. In some cases we were our own worst enemy. Lets work together. Coach
To: All Moderators,Airys418 and other Longs that are caught up in this SLJB situation. This my first post. I have been a shareholder since August. I have been watching closely. As you, I thought I owned something special in SLJB. I like many of you on this board have too much money invested to bail at this point. It appears as though the company has not been upfront with us to say the least. As a former athlete and coach I've been knocked down before and had to begin again. That's what real champions do.
As Shareholders we have to work together to rebuild our DD board. I would suggest ERASING ALL the listed DD that has not been or cannot be confirmed. We should be posting JUST the confirmed DD from now on with a means of confirmation or DO NOT POST IT. I believe that HOG and AIRYS did an outstanding job here and I want to thank them. They have possibly openned up a new line of communication with the company for us. Lets work together to get our money back with profits if possible. We own this company so we had better be charting what it does from now on. I also think we should consider working with the Board member who is putting together a stock holder group of 15% so we can get info as to what we own via the Nev. Corp. Sorry for being lengthy but I'm very angry and disappointed. I am currently working in Iraq and have been through Dubai many times. I took the hook based on what I saw in Dubai and the fact that Sulja was a family owned business of 20+ years. Coach