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are you really pointing to a 4-year-old filing from this company's former CEO as proof of anything today with a different CEO and business plan?
No. Officers in public companies are always in quiet period except for after filings, for 30 days. THINK ABOUT IT! They can't trade before telling the public about the financial status!!!
The whale issue is resolved because you have a few thousand shareholders, but 12 BILLION shares? Good lord!!
I'm sorry, that is simply not true. I've been a director in a public company, and we had to observe the quiet period at all times. Insiders know more about the company than anyone else. It would be totally unfair for insiders to be able to make coup by trading before the public knew of the situation.
You have no idea. Insiders are the LAST to be able to trade.
CEO has not been buying any shares. Insiders can only buy/sell within 30 days of filing fins, and they have no filings. No insiders can buy.
Actually, go back and read what HPIL posted. They said an 'offer' which means they have shareholders in mind to buy from. No, it won't be on the open market. It CAN be, but it won't be this time, if you believe what they announced.
The buyback has nothing to do with out shares. They are buying from select shareholders only. Most likely, family and friends of insiders...
My guess would be at least 10% of the OS...
Until they tell us what the primary energy source is for this car, we are all just guessing. But there HAS to be a primary energy source in order to charge the battery, period.
Yes, I served 8 years in the US Submarine service. TS cleared. And, I'm 77...but I've been on the internet since the 90's...
Yes, I have twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. This guy has nothing, not even Linked-In.
Yes, I was around for it, but it never happened.
But it is one of the reasons I loaded so many NSAV shares...sounded good at the time.
I looked him up when his name was first mentioned. I only see his name associated with hpil - so there is little to find out about him. It is suspicious to me that a relatively unknown person could have come up with a new technology for charging a battery and yet kept his name out of the internet.
Jeeze, take it easy. HPIL had not filed anything since 2016. They have to catch them ALL up!
A company can 'go current' any time. But if they're in the gray market, it may require extra steps to get back in the pink market. You can read about these levels on OTCM...or just google it.
No, it has nothing to do with mm's. They, of course, don't care what the price does. They operate on their spread, not as traders.
If you see a 'wall', it is one of your own shareholders that are selling/buying.
I have a mill open order for .051...when it gets close, you'll see it 'on the ask'. Has absolutely nothing to do with MM's.
Brokerages each have their own rules. But it is the SEC that made the decision to not support pink stop companies, and all brokerages must follow those rules.
If a company goes 'gray', you are stuck with those shares. They aren't sellable, because they can't be purchased. MM's will be forced to not offer a spread for pink stop and below.
A buyback offering is exactly that. The company 'offers' to buy a block of shares from a shareholder. No telling how many people scooped up trips and are now sitting on piles of shares. Some of them could be friends or family...
No problem, though...taking shares off the market is the opposite of dilution...undilution.
That is impossible. NSAV is already a public company, so it can't ''GO' public. An IPO is an INITIAL PUBLIC OFFERIMG, which is not possible if you are already public.
The point here is to recognize fake shit from real shit. NSAV holding company cannot POSSIBY go public, because it is ALREADY public, or you could not even be trading it here.
NSAV has never attempted to become DTC compliant. Not really a need to. It trades fine with the right brokers...
Most of us now see those messages. It's a new SEC rule that prevents trading on otc Pink Stop companies.
All MM's will buy your shares if you sell into their bid. They HAVE to. And their spreads are all different.
The first mm 'wins', which is a primary reason it's automated. A person doesn't choose what to buy or sell - their spread does it. If you choose to buy within their offer, you will get the shares - they HAVE to sell them to you, even if they have to borrow them from someone else.
However, I could sell 1000000 shares for each penny the stock goes up until it's over $.50, and would STILL have over 25M left.
I don't lie. And I don't need to prove anything to a bunch of strangers.
They can either buy them at market, or make an offer to a larger investor. I would not be surprised to learn that they already know where they are getting those shares.
The AS reduction has been done. All you have to do is look at the SOC of Wyoming to verify that. It isn't updated on OTCM, nor is anything else.
NSAV is ALREADY a public company. There is no such thing as a public company doing an IPO.
You're right, but I only sell when demand is moving the price up. My limit is always above the current price, and good for 60 days (and never AON). I have $.05 and $.06 sells already set up, just waiting for the stock to get there. When the $.05's sell, I'll set up an $.07.
My NSAV shares are up 6900%, and I have about 50M more to sell on the way up. Eventually, I'll still have about 25M for longer term holding.
When convertible notes are not paid in cash, they are paid with shares, usually at a huge discount. They IMMEDIATELY drop those shares on the market. They don't 'feed them out over time'. They are money lenders, not stock traders. The whole OTC runs on borrowed money and notes are converted to shares every day.
We were told that all the notes are gone. We can thus say that all those shares are now in trade - no noteholder wants to hold them while they decrease in value. They take what they can get, and use the money for their lending business.
Check the gray market, or Caveat Emptor. You'll find the bottom feeders there. I've tried a couple that looked reasonable, but no good news with those. Etrade lets you trade whatever you want, at least before Morgan Stanley bought them.
Right, I should have made that distinction - you will be charged what is within the MM's spread. They can only fill based on the best price available.
In November, it was at .00005...$2K buys 40M...Except you can't buy at the 5th decimal, so you'd have to pay .0001...20M shares.
What's deceiving? It is not necessary to 'report' every change in OS in the first place. If you want to know the OS, ask the TA. If they are not gagged, they will tell you what it is. OTCM only gets updated when the COMPANY updates it. I don't expect any OTCM updates until the stop sign is removed.
BS. Old wives tale. There is no messaging between MM's in penny stocks. It is an automated marketplace, and there would be no need to signal anything - there is no one to read the signals anyway. As I said, it's an automated market. MM's post their spread, and if you offer or bid within their spread, they are obligated to fill your order. That's how it works.
Again, no messages between mm's since they don't trade paper stock any more. Not for many years.
You'll have to contact the TA again. I did it with an email, and they sent me the pdf's and instructions for how to do it. Their instructions actually say what to do with paper certs. You send them by FEDEX and pay money.
I can't answer your questions. I just wanted to know what I'd have to do to get those dividend shares freed.
You might start with the company lawyer, Vic something or other. You will have to have a letter from him anyway as part of the deal, I think.
Yes, the TA can give you the papers you need to process. They sent me the data when I asked, and they DO handle paper certificates.
Uh, don't look now, but NSAV is already public.
It could be, or it could be larger orders broken down. All you see on L2 is the partial trades that it takes to fill a larger order, unless the order is small. At this price, 10K would only bring $400. I doubt anyone is doing that. 100K would bring $4K.
People are selling much larger amounts than that. Do you see a million share buy/sell anywhere on L2? No, because MM's buy what they SAY they will buy in terms of bid, ask, and QUANTITY. The quantity is what they guarantee they will buy or sell in one tranche.
On another stock board the other day, I saw 13 trades of 99,000. All one after the other. No seller was trying to sell exactly 99,000 shares 13 times in a row.
Last November NSAV was at QUAD zeros...
You can verify this share price for yourself...
Go to
NSAV Historical Prices
Check out Nov 11. $.00005. A two bagger just to get to .0001.
My shares were nearly worthless. No reason to sell at that price. In February it started up...I qwickly got my original investment back, and let the rest wait to see what else would happen. The rest is history.
'does' is a weasel word. That money might very well pass through daily, but is sure as hell isn't the profit the company is making. We have no idea if they're even breaking even yet.
Nothing is going to change on OTCM until HPIL updates it. They are unlikely to update anything until the stop sign is gone.