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Question - WMG, which I own June $7.50 puts, closed today at $7.94. I opened the position a few days ago when the stock was around $8.60's. The price is dropping fairly quickly, yet, the price of the puts is not budging. In fact, there's hardly any volume (135 on Friday and 0 today). My question is Why isn't there more interest in shorting this stock? By the time expiration comes around, I could simply exercise my options around $4 and get almost 100% return. I'd rather trade the contracts though.
Edit - I like to play VFC options which have seriously low volume but the Ask and Bid still move with the price of the stock. What's different about WMG? Seems to be a no brainer.
Question - WMG, which I own June $7.50 puts, closed today at $7.94. I opened the position a few days ago when the stock was around $8.60's. The price is dropping fairly quickly, yet, the price of the puts is not budging. In fact, there's hardly any volume (135 on Friday and 0 today). My question is Why isn't there more interest in shorting this stock? By the time expiration comes around, I could simply exercise my options around $4 and get almost 100% return. I'd rather trade the contracts though.
Edit - I like to play VFC options which have seriously low volume but the Ask and Bid still move with the price of the stock. What's different about WMG? Seems to be a no brainer.
LOL! Scaaaaaarrrrrrrry. Hehehe
Don't know about violent crimes resulting in buried bodies but definitely, if you're a conman selling snake oil and you have a history of it, changing your name makes sense.
BBAN = Preparation for the CSHD scam.
I wonder when Rufus is going to come sue any of us for Libel/Slander? LOL!
Optionmonster, it took a lot to get my DAZFH (DIA $138 June calls) to move the ask to .10. I'm not sure we're going to see the market run hard enough to bring much buying pressure to move the price up much.
You see AAPL? Man, that's running hard! I don't own any AAPL positions though. If I did, I'm sure they'd be puts! LOL!
Looks like this rally is going to carry into tomorrow's open, IMO.
Not moving a bit. 35 volume. Ask sits at .09. Bid moved up from .06 to .07. Usually on this type of stock movement, that ask should have moved to at least the low teens. Oh well. They're waiting for me to sell. LOL!
I have WMG puts that are a sure thing. POS stock with no market love. But the price has dropped from almost $9 to $8 over two trading days and the ask has NOT moved (no volume today either).
I can't makes sense out of this today.
It's a rally for my short position stocks and a mean bear market for my long positions.
Ohhhhhh, an averaging I will go...
So Rufus is reading here? Doesn't surprise me. Simple question for Rufus that should matter to folks holding onto faith...
Rufus, what have you done or plan to do to bring value to the stock that would bring the Market confidence to buy the stock outside of a few holders averaging down with one another?
LOL! Good luck with that one, cyber liar.
I know I'm dreaming. It'd be impossible for the U.S. population to grow enough brain cells to figure out who's spending our money and why.
And I know there are no lawmakers with balls big enough to tell the UN to go F itself. GW did a pretty damned good job at that and too bad more of our leaders didn't follow. I just wish the context of GW giving the UN the finger was about donating U.S. cash to help humanitarian efforts around the world rather than starting the Iraq war.
I mean, the African nations have it made. Not only do they have most of the worlds most valuable resources, they are allowed to remain corrupt from the inside and not have to pay a dime to help cyclone victims in Berma. Or Tsunami victims in Sri Lanka.
As crooked as some other nations accuse the U.S. of being, I'm surprised those same folks still ask us for money. LOL!
Doesn't matter what Cramer likes. The demand for Potash will remain constant and grow with the world's population, IMO.
Unless of course, everyone buys one of those "Aero Gardens". LOL!
Perhaps the U.S. needs to lose a % of it's Super Power status before we can start getting it back. The more we lose, the less the UN will demand we fund.
Then again, how bout the U.S. break ties with the UN. Create our own with countries willing to join. And watch the U.S. gain both respect and power. I know people whine about U.S. debt. It sucks. But those same folks need to start thinking outside of the Iraq war and focus on other social issues we fund. Then focus on the funding we do for humanitarian aid world wide. Some of that is pushed on us by the UN politics. When folks take off the anti-American goggles for a few micro seconds and look at the whole picture, a better answer as to why we are in so much debt will appear. And those folks won't like what they see even above and beyond the Iraq war. Keep in mind, those Euro's are convinced they are right about the use of U.S. dollars spent world wide that are sanctioned by the UN. And we don't get to vote on it. How do we fix that?
I can't understand how when you point out a verified lie that Rufus has stated, the response from some of the faithful is, "The judge hasn't ruled yet." LOL!
Now, let's do the same test with those same folks but this time, let's pretend they have not already lost their cash. For example:
Hey, h20md, I know this guy who was running this company called CSHD. It went through.... (fill in here with years of info from iHub and HSM coupled with court documents). Now that you know all of this about Rufus and his company, how much money are you ready to invest with him? And don't worry, the judge hasn't ruled yet.
LOL! Please, no one ever state "the judge hasn't ruled yet" in response to someone bringing up the Rufus debacle. It's a worthless statement.
Well, here ya go. The U.S. immediately stops all humanitarian funding for countries until some of our debt holders start to forgive our debt. Watch anti-Americanism increase for that.
China's going to kick everyone's economic A$$ as they have the luxury of communism to artificially keep wages down, thus, making the country very attractive for outsourcing. Watch for help desks to move from India to China. Already, knitting and sewing is/has moved to China. Even with higher shipping costs, it was still worth it to VFC to close their Dominican plants and move the work to China. This is currently happening in Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala that I know of first hand.
Sounds like Anna Jarvis's daughter is only interested in mothers that fit her political views on peace.
I've yet to hear about a mother upset about any exploitation of the day. My mother-in-law really enjoyed the $140 lunch at Shoguns Steakhouse today.
I'm not an economic journalist but I'm pretty sure that businesses have filled the need for consumers on Mother's Day due to personal preferences as opposed to Miss Jarvis's belief that the businesses are shoving product down anyone's throat. LOL! Some of these activists need to study up and embrace logic before speaking publicly.
IMO, it's clear OPEC is interested in hurting the U.S. economy by boosting the price of oil. Time to turn to domestic sources almost exclusively. Or at the very least, gear up the refineries stateside so we can self sustain.
With the alternative sources of nrg growning as rapidly as they are, we would probably surprise ourselves with how long we could be self sufficient.
Too much money would leave the hands of our lawmakers here for that though. First, we'd have to make lobbying illegal. In fact, if I get pulled over for speeding, I think I'll "lobby" to the officer in my best interest of not getting cited and see how well it goes. LOL!
No Mac's here. I almost got into those 1.5 years ago. They're great for graphics and working on a LAN. For FTP or any Internet needs through a Proxy, they suck. They can't seem to handle basic IP outside of a LAN that uses standard Proxy settings unless you spend A LOT of time and tweaking. Even then, good luck making any changes to the network because the Mac's will break and require more tweaking. It's almost like they can't handle responses past 3 or 4 hops outside the network.
BTW, I hate iPods too. You can't even copy music from your iPod back down to your computer/Mac without buying 3rd party software.
Then again, you don't have to reboot your Mac on a weekly basis either.
My issue with HSM is only on my laptop but I don't like to switch over to any of the other computers in the house just to post.
I post less frequently on HSM because of a technical issue. There's something on that site that runs every time you refresh or browse the site and takes forever on my machine when I'm not using a proxy server. I don't use a proxy server any more and I spent a few hours trying to figure out the sluggishness. I kinda know what the problem is but don't know the solution. Whenever I reimage my machine, I'll post over there more. LOL! I've actually gone almost 4 years without reimaging this laptop since I got it. I'll probably get a new one in the Fall anyway.
Pulled this list from one of the guys (thanks Chan!) on HSM that posts on companies with growing Institutional interest:
Darling Intl (NYSE: DAR)
Companhia Siderurgica (NYSE: SID)
Bucyrus Intl A (NASDAQ: BUCY)
Petroleo Brasileiro Sa (NYSE: PBR)
Flowserve Corp (NYSE: FLS)
Gardner Denver Inc (NYSE: GDI)
Natural Gas Services Group (AMEX: NGS)
Mid America Apartment (NYSE: MAA)
Pericom Semiconductor Corp (NASDAQ: PSEM)
Bpz Resources Inc (AMEX: BZP)
American Vanguard Corp (NYSE: AVD)
Permian Basin Royalty Trust (NYSE: PBT)
Southwestern Energy Co (NYSE: SWN)
Nationwide Health Properties (NYSE: NHP)
Tbs Intl Ltd (NASDAQ: TBSI)
Intl Business Machine (NYSE: IBM)
Swift Energy Co (NYSE: SFY)
Dryships Inc (NASDAQ: DRYS)
Quicksilver Resources (NYSE: KWK)
Baytex Energy Trust (NYSE: BTE)
Mosaic Co (The) (NYSE: MOS)
Semtech Corp (NASDAQ: SMTC)
Note this does not mean they are all going up but just that the interest in these have picked up. I noticed IBM is on the list and I have puts on them right now. I expect they'll drop a bit more before the next push to $125... if the stock does what it usually does anyway. LOL!
Translated:
The small time drug dealer was ousted of his territory by a more organized crime organization that has better drugs and contraband. The small time drug dealer rallies his customers who want to remain faithfull to his services but can't get the supplies they wanted or were accustomed to. Eventually, the junkies had to buy the new competitor's drugs because they are the law of the land.
Guess who the small time drug dealer is?
Guess who the more organized crime organization is?
Guess who the customers are?
Just because Rufus and some followers are upset because of the way the market is run doesn't justify the fact that Rufus lied his a$$ off about having 800 million in cash or assets that he could actually use. Much less have government connections. And if the faithfull refuse to recognized this, they will continue to lose their money.
The type relying on Rufus need to stay away from the Pink sheet's market, period. And that's not an opinion. However, their money is their's to lose however they want... some of them, anyway.
I hope he get's .60. My $138's will be worth .80. Hehehe
I almost added to my DIA June $138 calls for .08 today. Probably get them cheaper on Monday. LOL!
LOLOLOLOL!!!
Ya. I owned VEO (Visa $75 calls for May) from .60 and .80. Sold them for 1.60. My impatience costs me over 30 G's! LOL!
Also, I found that if I hold the options long enough after they go red, they generally go back green. I've been down 50% only to wait a week and sell for 100% gain. Interesting, these options. Hehehe
Yes they are. I don't like to hold options very long... such as my IBM puts. I'm only playing those on the retrace.
Jenna, I use this board in regards to playing options: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=5176
Lot's of good players over there. Bring some picks! These are what I'm playing right now:
$120 Puts on IBM - Retracing from it's HOY. Great stock though so be careful.
$48 Puts on QQQQ - Indicators point south for the short term.
$138 Calls on DIA - I'm pretty red here but I think it will come back.
$60 Calls on IPI - IPO that had a recent retrace and earnings coming up pre-market June 2nd and will NOT hold past June 1st no matter what the price.
$7.5 Puts on WMG - There's absolutely no love for this stock and company. Should go to $5 in the next few weeks.
These are all June expirations.
IPI June $60 Calls (IPIFL) starter position.
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080507/20080507006561.html?.v=1
Their earnings is scheduled before the bell on June 2nd. We should see some build up before then, IMO.
Starter on WMG June $7.50 puts (WMGRU). This one is going back down to $5.
Thinking about some IPI calls tomorrow. Thoughts? It may bounce to the mid $50's from here:
Got my IBM $120 June puts filled, finally (IBMRD). Sick as a damned dog here and two sick kids. I'm going back to sleep. LOL!
Good luck, board.
Absolutely. But from what I've seen and experienced on other plays, holding anything into earnings is asking to lose your cash.
I'm thankful to the folks here for helping me understand that as quickly as you guys/gals did.
Check out KALU. I was watching that one into earnings to see what would happen. What a blood bath. And their profit more than doubled. LOL!
That confirms further that I will never invest in an earnings play. That GOOG was a phenomenom though.
I'm trying to get some IBM puts filled today. It's been going up over a few days and about to hit it's HOY.
I guess the market didn't like big earnings on KALU. Interesting.
Another great call, OptionMonster. I told myself I wouldn't play earnings any more due to the high premiums on both the call and put side.
What's your thoughts on that? I guess if you are playing ITM and it goes over, the price on the calls will rise tremendously.
Man, what's the story here? Why is it running so hard? Good luck!
I believe they are finished with that.
Sure would be nice if they would announce another one. LOL!
Ya. For example: XOM. Man, it was doing fine and then the bottom fell out. Got some really cheap contracts though.
Curious though. I thought that rising oil prices would help this stock. Thoughts?
Conservatives Happier Than Liberals
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080507/sc_livescience/conservativeshappierthanliberals
LOL! Makes sense to me. If you're in a terminal state of worrying about everyone else rather than personal responsibility, that's a pretty big load. Come on Dem's, learn the art of teaching people to fish. Don't worry about spoon feeding the "less fortunate."
LOL! Thanks, Jenna. I'm respectful to those that are repectful of me. I thought Ron Burgundy's name for me was funny: Sam Poopy Pants. Hehehe
Because the "bashers" know that a lawsuit is a waste of time and money. There is NOTHING anyone will be able to sue for.
On the other side, if you've kept up with the YHOO/MSFT deal, there are disgruntled investors over YHOO's failure to come to an agreement. Yes, they were ready to take action to get value back. Looks like YHOO may have another card up it's sleeve though.
So if some of the more faithful KNOW Rufus isn't lying about assets and cash, why haven't they tried to sue to make Rufus get an attorney or force a proxy of some sort? I mean, unlike YHOO, CSHD has gone a couple of years with zero value. And no one from the Rufus supporters is insisting Rufus do anything but post randomly. Perplexing, I know.
You can't tell what stocks people are playing due to their posts. I spend most of my time on the Options Wonderland thread. I've traded 9 different positions this week already. LOL! Too quick to bother finding the board to post about. No need to pump good stocks.