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The reason is that they are at stop dark or defunct. TDA isn't trading any stop pinks.
It is simply a computer programming problem. We all know that is impossible, except those that 'want' to believe in computer errors. We will be very lucky to be at $1 by the end of the year - that is still a 10X from here, which would be great, but $20+? WSJ doesn't even report in pennies, but they obviously have a programming error.
Earlier this year, JT was talking about acquiring a Belgian pot company. Shades of 2017...but no follow-up yet.
TDA has never permitted trading in NSAV. The shares have never been registered with DTC, which TDA requires.
I'm not so sure. There is that issue of the 2017 dividends that are not registered, and are restricted. I don't think that's going to pass an auditor's review.
In 2017/2018 they made a big deal about a new accounting firm and auditor. They worked on it for a while, and 'bowed out'. NSAV went back to the original accounting firm. Same one as now, but apparently not SEC qualified.
So that audit is going to have problems that will have to be resolved before any uplist becomes possible.
OTCQB uplist requirements:
Requirements
Where does it say DTC has anything to do with uplisting out of the pinks? I've never seen that, and I've read the requirements many times.
Share price is just one of the requirements. NSAV has not met the other requirements. One of them is audited fins. That takes time and money.
Nano generators is not the point.
My one and only point is that there has to be SOME sort of energy source to charge the battery, and they have not told us what it is. Until they do, we have no idea what that source is, and some here believe there doesn't HAVE to be a source. That is dreaming. I know there has to be a source.
I agree, it is crazy. Even in my wildest dreams, I never thought I'd see my IRA in 8 figures! I'm up over $3M today alone, in under an hour...that's about as crazy as it can get.
Yes, taxes is the big bugaboo. Every year I must take some of my 401K rollover out and pay taxes on it, since it was made with before tax money. A quick calculation last week, at today's price, will have me taking out over $300K in 2022. THAT will then become what I'm taxed on along with my SS and dividends. I will lose at least 1/3 of that money to taxes.
Yeah, right...how many horsepower is your car again? And how much horsepower does your nano technology provide? Hint: It ain't enough. In fact, it is probably thousands of times too small.
The technology must be able to provide a lot of horsepower, for operating the car and for running the accessories. Energy lost out the headlights cannot be recovered, for example.
I'm not going to believe anything that simply is impossible due to the laws of science. They are called laws for a reason - they cannot be disproven.
If a generator is turning, something is turning it. THAT is the source energy. All the generator does is take that kinetic energy and turn it into electrical energy. BUT it is at a loss. So it can never get back the energy that it took to turn the generator in the first place. And that process also has energy losses, so there are two points of loss, with nothing to replace those losses except the primary energy source.
In today's cars, it is gasoline or diesel that runs the alternator/generator. SOMETHING will have to replace the gasoline. That SOMETHING is what we have not yet heard. But there HAS to be SOMETHING.
No, it is not that easy. It took energy to get the car moving. Energy is lost in every conversion. In this case, electric to kinetic. You can't get back the energy that has already been lost. Yes, you can capture regenerative energy, using gravity to help charge a battery. But it would be at a constant loss, so there has to be a primary source of energy. The thing is, they haven't told us what it is yet.
I think the most likely is a hydrogen fuel cell that is replaceable. It is used to run a generator which charges the electric vehicle. SOMETHING has to charge the battery, and it cannot come from the energy already lost.
NSAV is not going to merge with any company. NSAV is a holding company, which means it holds interest in other companies, but does nothing itself to generate revenue. It would not make sense for a company to merge with a holding company.
So, the merger idea is simply not going to happen. NSAV already SAID it was going to be 100% owned. And, it said it would be public, under the ticker NSAV. That NSAV is not Net Savings Link, this company.
This exchange must already be public, and NSAV is owning 100% of the interest in it. The task, apparently is to announce the ticker change.
That is old news. He has sued AGAIN since then.
It's kind of a matter of how much is enough? Right now, I'm up to a hair under $9M. I'm retired and own my home and have no other debt. I like where I live in Oregon, so don't feel a big need to move. I might consider having a new home built.
So, I'm not shortchanging myself. I plan to keep at least 25M shares to see where it goes.
Actually, if you read my other posts, you would know why.
First was the incentive to buy NSAV and get one 'free' share for every 10 shares you owned right after JT became CEO. I bought 5M and got 500AK dividend shares. 2017, still not tradeable, because the shares were not registered, and were never taken off restriction. you can get then out of purgatory for about $1000.
Next was hemp Beer - a new NSAV company that we would all get shares of at a rate of 1 share for every 17 shares of NSAV owned. But Hemp Beer never happened, and all those shares we bought were useless. But some of us had a buttful..like me. I wanted a TON of the new Hemp Beer Company, so I had somewhere around 200M shares of nsav, so I'd have close to 12M shares of Hemp beer, free. Remember, that is the same JT that still owns NSAV.
Regardless, that was then, and now I'm worth millions - not how I planed, but how it worked out.
What is they say? Life is what happens when you are making other plans? I guarantee, I never planned NSAV to do this. Now I have to decide if I want an electric hummer or an electric F150:
Electric F150
I drove a jet boat back in the 70's at 105 MPH on Lake Berreyssaa in California. The same day, a police boat hit a tree at speed and killed at least one cop. Too long abo to remember all the details, but could be found in Google.
Yes, that is a problem. the real problem is how to do it without harming other shareholders or your own future sells. It is actually easy, and none of you know when I have sold...that's because I sell at a limit that is above the current share price, or current offer price. I just wait for the stock to get to my limit, if it's going up, it will eventually sell. That is selling into demand. It's the only way to play this market, unless you are exiting it, and simply let it all go at market. That's when you see the big price spike s down.
There are a LOT of traders that don't understand how to buy or sell...
Every buy and sell should be at a limit. I set mine for 60 days always. I let the market come to me, not the other way around.
If you really have to sell, set your limit at the 'bid' in the Mm's. They HAVE to buy them by law.
Mary, heartfelt thanks! Last November, my entire portfolio was down to $3k. I had over 200MN nsav, which was quad zero at the time. Quad, not trip. I had nothing. But still, I held on to those shares.
Today, it's about $9M in my own account, one of my other partners got out with a couple $mil (the first spike). And my current partner has about $4M.
It is almost unbelievable when something like this happens - even my partner is in disbelief. We went out to dinner tonight and just talked about what has happened. Talk about SMH...it is disbelief, but it has happened.
All I hope to achieve with a post like this is to help folks understand that this dream is possible, if you are careful about what you invest in, and don't give up early if things don't go as planned. NSAV basically went dark on us for 3 years! Not one plan panned out, and all of them still have not panned out.
But there is a whole new business plan now that may or may not play out. We will all have to watch what happens.
(Weren't you in ONCI/NECA, along with me? I dumped it all, lost big on NECA. Lost belief in ONCI.) Have not kept up with it, but it ay be worth looking back into. At least, is is back out of trips...
You are right about an amazing day. Today, alone, my portfolio went up over $2M. My partners is half that - up $1M.
We are still in disbelief - not expected, not even dreamed. but there it is...our portfolios, together, right now, totals over $12.1M. Most of that is NSAV. Not trying to brag, but hoping to show people that if you get in low, and hang in there, you can make good bank. My shares are over 4 years old, and were worth less than .0001 just last November.
My trading strategy has been to sell when it's rising (meaning there is demand), and hold when it is dropping.
I sold a mil at .051, .061, .071, .081, and .091.
Now, I'm selling 500K at .110, .120, etc. 500K X 0.11 = $55K.
Still have over 100M shares to sell...and will end up holding, probably, 50M at the end of the selling.
We'll have to see what those do...
Of course they are - They are worth $.0977 right now. My 500K of them is now worth $48K...
Something wrong with that. I've been trading NSAV for years in etrade. They DO have a new disclaimer that you must agree to, but oabiously, everyone here is able to buy on etrade. Next time CALL your broker and get them to fix it. No one here can help with that.
The ticker change has already been applied for. When it is approved, it will change in your portfolio. Been there, done that. Has nothing to do with pink, current or anything else. It simply a trading ticker change. Happens all the time.
TDA has ALWAYS been that way with NSAV. (At least the last 5 years.) It is not going to change. It is not even a DTC chill - it is simply not registered at DTC. If you want NSAV, get a broker that lets you buy whatever you want. I've used etrade since 2008, and like it just fine.
When buying, look at the bid/offer. If you want to purchase at .0979, set it for a limit, good for 60 and wait until one of the MM's fills it at that price. If you place your limit at the 'offer' price, you will get shares immediately, because they are obligated to sell them to you or someone else that has a buy in. But they also have a 'quantity' at which they will sell...so they are only obligated to sell that quantity. If they don't change their spread, your order should fill because you can get that quantity over and over.
Or a rollover IRA - which is where the majority of my NSAV is. That is all before tax money and I'll only have to pay regular taxes on it as it comes out.
That's not how it works. When noteholders convert to shares, they IMMEDIATELY sell them. They aren't traders, they are lenders, and they want money, not shares. So - they get them at a huge discount, then dump them on the market, ensuring they all get sold. That's when you see a sharp decrease is share price.
It has been that way for years. I'm up $5,000,000 on NSAV...on etrade. No, it's not a chill...they simply never applied to get dtc registered. Go read NSAV's twitter, he explained why...
Check out the fees charged by dtc...
DTC Fee Guide
I have NSAV in 4 portfolios - two of mine, two of my partner's. Today, added together, we gained $1.4M...
It can be done. I got us in at trips, with a sound 'sounding' business plan. Later, none of that business plan worked out, and it sat for years doing nothing. Those were the 'pot' years.
Now, it is a whole new business plan that sounds even better than the previous one - but we still have seen no revenue, which is the ultimate gauge upon which to judge a company. This is the 'crypto' years.
We have now taken out over $1M from NSAV and put it into dividend stocks that pay us around $20K per month...Thank you, NSAV. The wait was worth it.
As far as I am concerned, I was just lucky. There was no wise decision except to not sell at a loss. But here it is - 9005.03% growth. I can hardly believe it myself. No, I'm not going to try to prove it to anyone, but it is what Etrade says.
I got my partner in at a lower price...her appreciation is now:
Symbol Total Gain %
NSAV 21,029.62%
I don't care about past posts. I'm telling you I ordered shares at a limit, and got them filled in 13 tranches of 99,000, plus some at different prices. That is because MM's fill larger orders with tranches, and 13 of the same exact size is no coincidence, and it has nothing whatever to do with share price or volume. It is related to their bid/ask, which is accompanied with a quantity. This is normal MM Activity, just as when people say they see a subpenny stock 'order' for 100 shares. No one buys that few at a time, the commission would cost more than the shares.
I can COPY my partial fills and post them here, if anyone wants to see them. That number is how one MM fills orders, that is all.
It is meaningless. At least one MM does it that way. I bought 5M shares recently, and got 13 99,000's out of it. You are seeing tranches, not whole orders.
choose a better broker. They are full of BS...
That is not the issue, regardless of what you were told. NSAV shares are NOT registered at DTC, and never have been. TDA won't trade any non-dtc registered shares. It is really that simple.
Get a better brokerage, like etrade.
Uh, yeah, the fundamentals...the first one would be revenue, then profit, then eps and ebitda...none of which is in NSAV's wheelhouse. Yeah, play those fundamentals. And take off the pink sunglasses for a smarter view of things.
And a birdish diversion occurs when the pigeon curve crosses the goose curve. Yeah, using big board ideas on stinky pinkies really works. As if...
Yes, TDA doesn't permit trading NSAV and other companies that it doesn't think you should invest in. Use Etrade and buy whatever you want.
Another point is that HPIL was FIVE years behind in filing. They are done in order, beginning with the first one not filed. Each filing has what the previous one had, but with the new stuff added. So, some companies may have only needed one filing to get current, but HPIL had 20 missing!
are you really pointing to a 4-year-old filing from this company's former CEO as proof of anything today with a different CEO and business plan?