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MULG sold off Viagoo recently, perhaps you weren't aware.
Nice, just an unsubstantiated claim. In other words, a lie.
When? Show your proof.
My trades are nobody's business but mine.
My trades are my own business.
I don't see where they say merger, all I see is acquisition. Thank you for the reply.
Where did they post merger? Let's see, please.
I don't give a flying F what the price does.
Just be sure to enjoy the ride when things turn out different than what is being pumped.
I never made a claim to the contrary.
Attempting to imply that I did is disingenuous to say the least.
Mergers result in one single company surviving after combining several individual companies.
How do you explain the fact that Eastwin8 still exists as its own company after being acquired by ICNM?
It's because it was not a merger, it was an acquisition. Both companies still exist. One is just a parent to the other. But they are still two companies, they still have two different company names etc.
Mergers and acquisitions are related terms in the financial world and some transactions can make a distinction a little murky, but they are absolutely not freely interchangeable terms. They each have their own definition, which differ from each other.
By the way, trying to bring up an unrelated example and pointing to that as some kind of proof is called a strawman argument. It is a logical fallacy. It is a falsehood presented as if it were fact. Many don't see through them, but I do.
I'm here to tell the truth. What anyone does with that information is up to them.
Sprint no longer exists though. Your own screenshot refers to it in the past tense, as in it no longer exists as a company.
This is because it was merged into and absorbed by T-Mobile. It now no longer exists on its own. If you try to call Sprint headquarters to talk to the CEO of Sprint, you will fail in your quest. There is no Sprint headquarters. There is no Sprint CEO. Neither exist anymore.
This is entirely different from ICNM and Eastwin8. Eastwin8 still exists as its own company. ICNM still exists as its own company. They have not merged into one company.
One is simply a subsidiary of the other, but is still a company unto itself. Because they did not merge. One simply acquired the other.
Unfortunately, you are wrong.
Take ICNM's acquisition of Eastwin8. It was just that, an acquisition. There was never any merger. To this day, the OTCMarkets website profile includes this line,
ICNM is the parent of Eastwin8
Where does it say they canceled the IPO due to Covid heightened restrictions?
They kept on making amendments all the way through Covid including the most recent one in August, it was never canceled at any time.
In fact, the most recent S-1/A includes this line,
Now, after Covid-19, the company has no problems with business sustainability. IPO financing will be used for new investments to expand the operating scale and does not affect the existing operating scale.
I'm not the one worrying.
And they have since sold more than half of them.
Awesome! Can't wait!
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Tuesday, July 27, 2021 4:13:53 PM
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ICNM go time nearing here folks. Buckle up time coming soon :)
Your previous post claims he has delivered on everything he promised.
Take a look at the list in the tweet you are presenting in this follow up post.
3 of the 4 items have very plainly not been delivered in an any manner, shape or form. Nada. Nothing. Zilch.
And the other item, "audited fins (fully SEC reporting ticker)" has by no means been delivered in what would be termed a meaningful way.
They were an attachment to an 8-K and do not actually count toward fully SEC reporting status. They are meaningless in that regard. They would have to be in 10-Q and 10-K form and officially filed on their own with the SEC to actually count. So instead, VNTH is still "Crowdfund" status versus fully reporting.
"Adam" using the phraseology of the fins being "released" is simply sleight of hand that implies they were filed and makes all the ignorant bagholders cheer with glee.
Those that realize that the fins were not technically filed understand that there is some trickery going on there.
I personally don't like a CEO resorting to pulling tricks.
I have provided proof that he stayed involved in at least one shell that he supposedly "sold".
Any reasonable person would then infer that it is entirely possible he might stay involved in other shells he has "sold".
Proclaiming that he 100% has no involvement is simply taking a baggy hope unsubstantiated opinion and adding 100% in front of it.
Unfortunately, just adding "100%" does not magically turn that unsubstantiated opinion into fact.
It is absolutely possible that Frank is still involved with VNTH. And I can back that claim with fact. Like real fact, not a baggy opinion presented as if it was a fact.
One could not possibly know it to be a fact that Frank is 100% out of VNTH. Go ahead, try to prove it... One cannot..
On the other hand, for one, a bunch of the purchase agreement was suspiciously blacked out. Obviously, these were items Frank absolutely did not want investors to know the details of. Why?
Second, we know that he was still meddling in ILI* even after "selling" it to Kristin Simpson-Oloso. It ruined the deal she was making with some health facilities and has now resulted in a lawsuit apparently. This is why there have been no updates there in some time.
Thank you for the offer, but I'll pass. I have already put enough effort into checking him out to be reasonably comfortable with my conclusion. It certainly does not mean that he 100% does not exist. In fact, claiming such would be a logical fallacy - it is impossible to do. See "Russell's Teapot" and "proving a negative".
The offer would be better off made to someone who swears up and down that he must exist because someone signed a name somewhere.
If proof was found, awesome, throw it in my face all they want. I've been asking for it for months now.
Dunno why "Adam" doesn't just show himself and shut me up, it would be so easy.
How about "Adam" shows us some of his "EV entrepreneur" projects he has worked on. Show us a business registration, show us a license, show us a website of a company he operates, how about a video of him walking us through one of his locations or projects. But no, all we have are tweets and "signatures" that could have been made by anyone.
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2022/lr25583.htm
Financial statements and securities offerings were issued with falsified numbers. Those would constitute "fraudulent filings", I should think. Others can be found by taking the time to go through the links I provided earlier.
You are welcome to assume "Adam" is a real person, knock yourself out. Me, I have enough experience researching people to know that something is just not right with him. There is nothing out there on him, nothing.... That just doesn't happen in my experience. There are always a couple things out there. Add in the pumpy tweet promises, with accompanying red selling volume bars, that then go unfulfilled and suspicion goes up even higher.
If he does not exist, as some have been wondering, then anything signed with his name would in fact be a fraudulent document or filing.
Come on "Adam", prove you are legit, let's see it. If suspicion about your existence is in fact deleterious to the share price of the ticker then it might even be thought that that is in violation of the CEO's fiduciary duty and needs to be addressed.
In other words, come on, prove you are legit, and not just for the cynics, but for all of your shareholders. Let's see it.
Maybe "Adam" should do things by the book and not act like he's pulling off a scam
Come on, Adam, prove you are legit. Let's see it.
I have issued this challenge repeatedly.
Curl up with a nice warm cup of cocoa and enjoy reading about all the different things these guys do. Many do in fact involve fraudulent filings.
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin.htm
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases.htm
You can bet that none of these people set about trying to get busted, but they did.
There are several cases a week of the SEC charging folk with fraud.
Pretty much every one of them was people purposely putting themselves in that kind of legal jeopardy.
They just hoped they wouldn't get caught.
There is no information on him even existing.
This is incorrect. There are plenty of 100% Pink Current tickers that have a CE.
1) Frank is the guy who sold the shell but has been known to keep interests in them going forward.
2) New CEO hasn't delivered on squat that he has promised.
3) This is still a shell with no operations, all it has are a bunch of tweets of unfulfilled promises.
4) Why has "Adam" not actually filed the financials? They were only included as attachments to an 8-K, why were they not official filings that count?
5) Look into the requirements to be eligible for federal funding, they include minimum skills, training and certification standards: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/06/22/2022-12704/national-electric-vehicle-infrastructure-formula-program. A stinky pinky with a mystery CEO isn't going to cut it. As far as risking huge sums of money, we don't know what was paid for the shell, that was kept secret - it was intentionally blacked out in the agreement. Heck, it might have been just $1, we don't actually know.
They've been "working on removal" for months and months, it's not like they just started last week.
As far as how long it takes, many CE's never even come off at all.
It seems that at least some brokers require a human element to make the changes in their system to properly reflect ticker status changes. It's not automatic, and some seem to be faster than others.
You can always try calling in for the heck of it.
That CE took four and a half years to come off, just FYI.
"OK well I’m out with the bulk of my shares now." - Rattlershehe, just yesterday
It was actually being sold during that time.
That had nothing to do with Atlas. That was simply in a list of tickers so that the message is found when searching for any of them. Just like in tweets where someone list 20 tickers so that the tweet shows up in multiple searches. The tweet actually has nothing to do with any of those tickers. It's simply a tool to gain exposure.
It's not going to "change things".
VNTH is going south because the CEO's tweets have all been baloney. He hasn't done squat except issue empty promises.
Nope. I'm legit. No nefarious reasons for posting. I genuinely do not like seeing people lied to and falling for scams. Especially if there are some other plays out there where they can make money and not be victimized. If I can make money on those decent plays too, then awesome. Win all around.
Some people will push a little old lady into traffic and steal their purse while at it; me, I will help them cross the street.
I know that is totally beyond comprehension for many of the scumbags of the OTC but it's true.
That's the OTC dream, right? Ride from .0001 to $1 and turn a hundred bucks into a cool million.
Soooo enticing....
It is out of a spirit of benevolence, actually. I do not like seeing people lose money due to being influenced to buy a stock based on poor, bad and even malicious information sources.
And yes, there is also a selfish reason for those that just cannot fathom an act of benevolence. And that is that the money that might be invested in a crap stock could instead go toward a much better play where many more people can all make some nice cash, including me.
When telling the truth is referred to as "bad mouthing", one might want to reconsider the quality of the stock being discussed.
It had more of a point than "but there was a PR months ago!".
The PR months ago did its job and got a lot of bagholders on board.
But now there is nothing happening and investors are bailing before it gets even worse.
Have you checked a calendar recently?
Mine says it is now over halfway through December.
And nothing has happened.