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I am doing the same when I can!
Way over my head PhD. I don’t know how they enforce the patent aspect. I have some ideas, but they are guesses and this is not the place for that LOL.
You are correct, they source the kit from a supplier. CELZ has NO patent on the cell separator kit.
From the Q filing... Plan of Operations - We commenced marketing disposable stem cell separation kits for the Caverstem® ED treatment in the fourth quarter of 2017. We commenced marketing disposable stem cell separation kits for the FemCelzâ„¢ procedure to treat female sexual disfunction in the fourth quarter of 2018. For the next 12 months our plan of operations is to market our disposable kits, publish the results of the UCLA/LABiomed clinical trial and partner with leading researchers on investigator-initiated trials to advance our neurological programs.....
I hope like you we get to see that as well. Not to argue over a few hundred bucks, but I think the revs per kit is closer to $1000-1200/ kit. That was from some DD by a buddy, and a hard look at the Q. I tried to find the price of the kit from the part number but could not find it. Even if I did, we have no idea what the deal with CELZ is if they buy in bulk etc. etc.
Regardless, that is the revenue source at this stage IMO. And that is not too shabby once they get say 20+ docs doing let’s say 5 per week and keep increasing. I assume StemSpine will be similar. No clue how AmnioStem will work.
It all seems pretty simple to me. Build a better mousetrap and sell the cheese so it can be used. Sounds like a nice low overhead plan for CELZ.
My guess Rk3, is that we see CA, TX, TN, OH and more added in June. Revs will keep ramping up Q after Q.
It’s sucks the Antonini and NM revs did not hit in time, but we know they are there. Buying kits scores at a time!!!
Yessir. Right where they said they would!
Agreed Chaka. CaverStem just updated that the first patients in Honolulu are being treated today. Just as reported, new doctor up and running in May. I know we will see more early in June!
More buying than selling, yet walking it down. Hmmmm
So now the patients are shills? They are coming out now because the offices they were filmed in were just opened. Open your eyes folks. I hope anyone reading here notices that every time the company posts something some claim it is all part of a scam.
Sit back and think about all the patents the company has filed, all the trademarks they filed for, how many doctors are starting to see the curative nature of the treatment, how many patients have traveled, some from other countries, to get a fix fir their condition, and see that it is a legit company.
Does anyone truly think a scam, hoax company would go to the extent of filing enough evidence to obtain a US Patent, engage in a .gov trial and all the other things happening with CELZ to be those things????
Logic tells you otherwise. How big the company gets is anyone’s guess. Never move from here, or become. A Giant? We will see as the year progresses.
That last note hurt us for sure, and the revs from Feb and March not making it to the Q did not help. No one wants to talk about the massive debt reduction, but I still say, and will until proven otherwise, that after a glacially slow start and some setbacks, it coming together.... it’s not a hoax.
You have to seriously view the video from Dr Narayan and see there is a need for a non surgical and non med fix fir ED. You can see patients are looking for that too. The one guy found out about it from Facebook. What will happen when we see the TV commercials?
What will happen when more and more doctors learn of this through the email awareness campaign and word of mouth?
I know you will say the PPS sucks and that is all that traders care about. To a point, you are right, but some of us are investors, investing in a start up that is just getting off the ground.
Will it succeed?? Anyone’s guess. In obviously think it will or I would not invest here. I also think it’s hitting at the right time in our opioid crisis world where folks are getting worried about meds.
Let’s let it play out this summer!
Not yet Wolf, but they will when some news eyes discover it. We are the same ole group here. New eyes will come when more doctors sign, more patients are treated, and the follow up testimonials report results. No hoax my friend
Thanks oldVette. I am sure some will say these are meaningless because they don’t have any results yet, etc.
what is super cool about these is it proves the company is legit, not a scam, sham, hoax, or fraud or any other kind of disingenuous word. Will these folks have results? Based on what I have heard, you bet they will.
The company is legit, run by top folks with patented technology. The PPS will correct when the world discovers this gem. Especially now, when you can get it so low. I am jealous of the folks like whitehitcoal who can a ton of shares far cheaper than I was able to.
CELZ!!!!!
Right there with you CoinPadawan. These folks are seasoned professionals who have done this before. Whether it runs back to .07, or dips down to .002 again makes no difference. It will not change the end game here. Just like Medistem but twice the PPS is my estimate. The OTC traders don’t like it, the investors love these prices. I know many, myself included, who have added a ton with this stupidly ridiculous PPS. I hope to grab more before some like whitehitcoal truly comes in and gobbles them all up.
Maybe whitehotcoal will gobble up shares Tuesday making him have to pick Wednesday.
What some are denying is that several doctors have just been trained, and that several more should be trained in the next few weeks. Just because the revs from the first doctors trained didn’t hit the books in time to hit the Q1, doesn’t mean they didn’t happen. They will show in Q2, clearly.
What some are denying, and trying to get you to think, which would be foolish, is to think top doctors, for example Antonini, that is being backed by the Italian Ministry of Health, is lying about the patients he has treated and the excitement the treatment brings. The same goes for the NM office that has reported many happy customers, FINALLY finding something that worked for them. Why any of the doctors would be accused of lying makes ZERO sense.
What some are denying is that just because the trial has not been issued doesn’t mean it’s fake or bad. It is simply in the hands of the reviewers.
Just because doctors have not posted pictures of the kits doesn’t make them empty, let’s be real here.
Truly think what some are asking here. They are asking for doctors to prove to some internet blogger that they are treating patients by posting photos. How silly is that? Does a heart surgeon have to send pics to prove he is using the tools of his trade? Some are just denying that the word of this company is getting out, doctors are learning of this from the physician awareness email, and now word of mouth.
The same is happening for the patients. Men with ED are slowly learning that there is a new, easy option for them.
This is a small startup biotech that is finally getting some traction. The PPS has been beaten down from some ugly notes, and the OTC that piles on. The short report shows shorting has been an issue along with some holders not wanting to wait any longer and moving on. That is fine. To each their own.
This will move like Medistem when the time is right. I think that time is close.
Agreed Mach1. I agree that the company is in need an IR contact, but that would be another salary. In the mean time all we can do is reach out to the CEO and COO. But, I do not expect the top executives to be answer emails from pissed off OTC traders. In fact I like that they don’t. I have sent friendly emails to them and have gotten the standard reply that they cannot discuss anything not publicly released. That is all that I expected and all that should ever be said.
DD has worked for some top companies, and was involved when this group commercialized Medistem. Like their style or not, we are in good hands. I am in this for the long haul, always have been. I will let them do their thing and watch as this all comes together faster and faster.
For all of those calling him an idiot and a scammer, he sure has some nice credentials..... ;)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/donalddickerson/
Yes, as each doctor signs and purchases disposable kits from CELZ it generates revs. That is the business model. No one ever said that they get a cut from the procedure.
No, they are not selling biopsy or aspiration kits. We can call them whatever you like, but selling the kits is the revenue source.
No, Dr. Antonini does not have to show a picture of a box to prove he is using them. He has addressed it in several articles with backing from the Italian ministry of health.
Nothing associated with this company is a farce.
In fact, Ichim, Gershman, Warbington and Dickerson have already successfully commercialized, ran and sold a stem cell company. Dickerson has a successful career in multiple Fortune 500 companies. Ichim has patented several medical advances for CELZ.
The doctors that have signed up to treat with CaverStem and FemCelz are established, well respected doctors.
None of these people are associated with stinky pinkies or farces.
Well said gint. Q2 will show all the revs from the signed doctors that started in Q1, even though a few keep saying they just sell boxes with scrubs, or biopsy kits. I don’t care if they sell boxes with pizza in them, just keep selling them by the scores as they have been. I expected to see some make the cut and be in Q1, but now it’s clear they will be in Q2.
The last PR said they will train docs in May and June, so we will see several more doctors joining the team as soon as next week. I suspect we see Sanderson trained next week since they already announced him and you can schedule with him. I am interested to see who the others are in OH, TN, TX, and Cali. The next five that inquired will come onboard much faster too.
It sucks that some traders didn’t care about the massive debt reduction in the Q, but only cared about the revs. That shake was good for a few longs I know who added a ton.
Luckily, three of those, including the ugly May 14 one, are behind us :)
Disagree. Folks will see that more doctors are being trained the next few weeks and the smart ones will be buying these ridiculously low prices. Thus stock should be well into the pennies. Any buys below that will be richly rewarded. It is even more ridiculous to assert that CELZ has 2B more to dilute. They are bleeding off notes only to fund business. That need dwindles with each doctor signing up and generating revs.
Any investors digging a little will see Antonini is a rock star in Rome and has support from the ministry of health. Since he already reported he has treated 60 patients, and he has been in several articles and interviews, it is very logical to see that just his offices alone will be getting very very busy and word will spread all through Europe. His office alone will bring big revs.
It’s my opinion the same will happen in the CA, NM, and FL as these doctors are also reporting very excellent results and are happy to have this treatment vs. drugs or surgery. The word is simply spreading....finally.
No one is saying CaverStem can fix everyone every time, but it is an awesome new treatment, long overdue.
Articles are also popping up all over as stem cell treatments are all around.
CELZ low PPS is nothing more than being the victim of a slow mover in the OTC, having to issue some notes to pay the bills, and folks getting out after the false start in 2018.
ALL of those things have changed.... the training cadence has increased, the notes will be no more very soon, and buying vs selling will be the trade of the day as the market takes notice. Could be Tuesday, could be June, who knows, but I have no doubts it’s coming very soon, and these prices are a smart buy.
I am confident that CELZ will hit their mark of self sufficiency in 2019. Many things are planned the rest of the year. All IMO of course.
Offices are opening, doctors are calling, even countries are calling. The commercialization we expected in the fall is happening now. That’s what’s happening.
I know they want .0038-.0048’s again to load and flip out around here again, you know 80 times in 9 months? I just don’t see it happening again. Some make decent money doing it, if you can sleep at night.
Ok, we are all informed now. Good luck on your next one.
Correct, they handled it the exact same way IMO.
Not too late to get in. Get ready to make money. More green coming next week as more awareness over the long weekend. I promise you.
Doctors signing up, training ramping up, revs ramping up, watch and learn.
Wouldn’t that also hold true for the folks who vent on here demanding and expecting management to be reading and respond?
LMAO...... WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
C2, I absolutely guarantee this won’t be red on Monday. 100% sure.
Right there with you bud. No way this goes to nothing, all is much more likely!
Shorty attacked yesterday and took some folks off the cliff......Sad. SFT, there is no doubt in my mind that training is ramping up like NSX said and we will see evidence of that all summer. I am holding strong and adding whenever I can. I sure wished I did yesterday. May not see that sale again.
Exactly. MM 109 for you sir!
Good analogy.
LOL. I did.
LOL. Funny though.
Agree Penguin. That has been a problem since the start of the year. If revs had come quicker, there would have been less notes needed. My hope, and some low rumblings, are that they will be able to repay some of the notes. Even if all converted, we are not in the danger zones yet :)
Have you looked back and see how it traded last year as they just started up? It took a huge dip like this in the spring and then ran up to .07 when the excitement came after the AUA in May.
We all know it stalled out when things get delayed as they switched to the CaverStem 2.0 needle kit process.
Dilution was horrible last spring as compared to now, but the buzz ran the PPS.
I am confident that will happen here again. Way to many doctors starting to get involved not to generate that same buzz again, but this time it will just keep on rolling. IMHO
Judging by the attack we are under cements that for me.