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I wish I could, but I obsess. As Lowman put it, "Big payoff's are possible if you do put all of your eggs into one basket, but you damn sure better watch that basket closely." (added a little flavor to it, but the gist is there) Anyways, I enjoy it. This is my new hobby.
Just a reminder.... While people are busy looking at their charts, graphs, indicators, shorters, momo's, and whatever the hell else an individual may use to tell them what the future may hold in store for VPER, I offer you this....Incandescent Phase Out. Check it out. Just as everything is right on track to knock our socks off because of this JV, so is the Long on LED's. Mercury poison due to flourescence will come to light sooner or later. And what will be left but LED's? Therefore, when the JV does come together (in breakout fashion for all parties involved) what is left is a domestic manufacturer and an international corporation assisting in domestic sales while supplying a few huge markets internationaly, with hopefully many others to come until all markets are full. (The bulbs are supposed to live damn near forever:) I Still like my chances long.
Hey, how about that? VPER up over 7% after hours... Alright!!
I've been in it since late Jan. I've been up to .0084 and down to .0013, and still I hold. My own personal point for consideration to exit is .03. But I believe we can do much, much better. Based on everything that has transpired over the last few PR's, we are right on schedule. Hold fast friends, over the next one to three months we'll be going for one hell of an upward ride. You'll be glad that you did. IMO ( Don't allow your fear to over rule the logic and legislation behind VPER's new LED biz model )
Amazes how impatient people are to make huge gains. If you can get yours somewhere else, go on , get it. But the reality is that this thing is working towards HUGE things. Potentialy moving on to a stock upgrade and still you can't wait? You guys realize that nothing is lost until you sell right? Too bad you've bailed and realized loss'. In the mean time, I'll be here, along with others who see the bigger picture and are primed for TREMENDOUS gains in the LONG term. Bye-bye, we'll be here when your back riding our coat tails...
I'm sorry, I must respectfully disagree. If an accountant, or any other qualified individual were to dedicate their time to this task, and this task only, it can, and will be done. Sounds like they are committed to getting it done as fast as possible, and putting whomever on the hook to get it done on or around this 30 day time frame by making this statement.
My bad. Never did read that old post. But hey, now everyone knows right where I stand w/ this stock. (As if there was any confusion) :)
Not within the next 1 to 2 years (contingent on news as it develops, maybe much longer). In my experience as a small biz owner, persistence pays. Lose your focus, lose your commitment for what you believe in, and know to be right, and all is lost. Besides, the last thing you want to do is trade on emotions, i.e fear. All the pieces are here, it's just going to take some time to develop, that's all.
I like your attitude!!! Go VPER, Go!!!
Dude, I've just got to ask, why are you here?
You know... None of the flippers that are currently leaving because this process is going to take a little bit longer than they had hoped, ultimiately won't matter one bit in the long run. Once the afore mentioned upgrades to VPER and it's stock status actually takes place because of VPER's DD, all of the fear and uncertainty about the company will simply melt away, and all that will be left, are those of us with LONG vision, and fresh, new, real money investors.
They are not running late on anything. They have promised updates and have delivered. Perhaps you are shorting here? Maybe you should consider moving elsewhere, although we would love for you to stay...
Explain what happened there, please. Thought there was no trading after hours. Or don't go trying to read into it, or what? Thanks.
Guess the real running won't begin until they divide those stocks amungst those in the JV, or create a new entity within the OTC per their agreements. Either way, I love our Med. and LONG chances here, don't you? Imagine....
After hours play on pink stock? Looks like someone snuck in a lowball sale at the buzzer. Still trying to kill our momentum, eh? For the love of Pete, give my stock a chance, she wants to stretch out her new legs, and BAD!!!
Rome wasn't built in a day... Not even in a week. And I believe that is what we're talking about here... We're all laying down the foundation with each purchase, the glory of Rome... Ooh, that just gave me chills. :)
Yeah, I know. Re-read my post, and was way ahead of myself. What can I say? Guess, I'm a guy who's just ahead of his time. Gonna take VPER and JV's some time to catch up, but at least they now can see the future road that they are currently in the process of building, layed out before them. Now all they have to do is close the deal. Bright things ahead (No pun intended)...Go VPER, Go!!!
Just now was @ the Home Depot here locally and seen HECHO EN MEXICO LED's for under $10. So, there we go. That's the competition. In with a 9w bulb for just under 10 bucks. Wonder what we can do to beat that VPER, aside from the obvious, being made in the USA. Lower wattage? Longer life? Lower cost? Exporting? Hey, how about somehow manufacturing the envirolite deal into the LED's? Hey now... There's an idea, uh, oh... somebody better put me on the payroll, I'm not going to be giving this stuff away for free anymore. :) Anyways, that's the word from the street on the competitors who's shelf in Home Depot we would all love to occupy. In it for the long of it. Long live VPER ( and all potential JV candidates) This is the beginning of the realization of everything that you've dreamed.
Appreciate your good wishes, and wish nothing but the best for you as well. As for the zip code thing... Thanks to a terriffic, easy read called "the millionaire next door" I don't think I'll be changing my zip code regardless of how well we do. Between that and "rich dad, poor dad" I have learned that financial independence should mean a lot more than displaying a high social status. Besides, I'm already in a premier neighborhood here in Modesto, Ca surrounded by fairly affluent, college graduates (which I am not). But to have a clearly experienced, and well educated opinion such as yours and others, back my wild and crazy play with charts and stats simply reassures me that everything that I'm doing here is potentialy the right thing to do(had to throw the potentialy in there). I appreciate your support, and will be following your posts closely.
Alright!! So now, with that all cleared up. You can always buy and hold too.... :) Yup, you can always go really really long.... Averaging .0038 and feeling great about it. .0028 if you don't count the unrealized profits that were made from my very first investment that yeilded 30% w/BAC. Decided BAC wasn't enough risk, and moved on to the most beat up stock I could find, w/ an understandable business model, 7 + years in business, and which has a history and therefore the potetial to at least triple in one year or less. It's true I'm a newbie, completely unschooled in the arts of stock trading, but there is something to be said about buying in a company that you believe in because of it's ability to reinvent itself with a fresh new logical direction, not to mention the government enforced legislation behind it's new long term business model. So, in case anyone has any questions about the sincerety of the words that I speak, do your DD, and stand back and look at the whole bigger picture of what this company is currently doing, and is on track to do. BUY BIG AND GO LONG IMO I put my money where my mouth is and am in 100%. Used borrowed money which is almost paid back to accumulate 5.7 mil. shares. Every .0001 is $570.00. It's just a matter of time before I'm living the dream. IMO
Now that I think about it, most everything that I know has come from this board. I think that says a lot for this board, and unfortuniatly, about me too.
I guess if your in the drivers seat it's beautiful, but from where my under educated pooh butt sits, it's pretty damn ugly...
I mean really? Someone sells $16.50 worth of stock and I lose over $1500 in my account. Frustrating...
I don't know how they do it, but someone sells, 5K shares and knocks the over all value down .0003. WTH? Just to bring down the ask or what? Or to stop momentum?
So let it be written, so let it be done.
Now does this mean that we have to buy? :)
They haven't not followed through with anything they've said. They stated than an update was coming in Mid-April on JV!! And nothing else. Re-read my post from last night.
What will I do? I'll re-read every single PR they have put out over the last few months as many times as it takes, and look for inconsistencies, or anything that was said that did not come to pass. Like I've said in the past, they have never not fullfilled what they have said on any PR as far as I can tell. They have just been extremely cautious in their word play, so as to keep everything foward looking, yet never nailing anything down directly. Re-read them yourself, they always say updates are coming, and soon, never saying that anything will be disclosed by any specific time, which is understandable. If they don't know the exact date, how can you say otherwise. They have been saying just enough to keep us real investors in eager anticipation, that's all. So, when the 1st of next month comes, and if no substantial news has been released, I'll be taking a 2nd look at all of those PR's on more time, under a microscope, and either will be looking to continue to hold, or re-evaluate my position. (Notice how I didn't nail myself down either?) :)
The thing that stuck out to me was the "relatively soon". Not that I'm trippin', being a long and all, but that's a very subjective term. Either way I suppose, it's still confirmation of all of the good news we have been hearing. Go VPER, Go!!! (hadn't said it all day)
Hmmm, interesting. I did not know that. Thanks.
What I was refering to was the numbers that will be provided by that report. Don't look for anything positive there. None of the LED interests VPER has been shooting for will be reflected on those reports anyhow because that was from the quarter prior. So to say you would like to see them now, I've got to ask why? They most definiatly are not going to give the stock any kind of a boost anyways.
Yeah, that's right. But we're still here, so, move over bacon now there's somethin' meater.
It's all cool, but the reality is that VPER didn't begin LED involvement until Dec '11. Therefore, in turms of revenue that will be shown, it's not going to show much. The real money doesn't start until here real quick. Unfortuniatly, we're going to have to wait for future quarters anyhow. But hey, when your a long, your a long... And logic dictates, it will pay IMO
Little exsessively brutle. We know what is going to happen long term, and kinda don't blame the guy. But see, the real message he needs to understand is that it's not about getting rich quick, but seeing the bigger picture. If you see something that you believe in, stick to it. As in all of life, when you stand behind what you know is right and fundamentaly sound, their will be turbulance and resistance while you make that stand, but ultimiatly you will be rewarded for your persistance and foresight. (Got that out of a fortune cookie.) :)
It's all good... But just to stay on point (I'm refering to myself now) Go VPER, Go!!!!
If you are an investor Greg, we're happy to have you. But your not doing yourself or VPER any favors by being negative on here. I'm new to this, but have a fair grasp of psychology and understand that everything that is said may have a direct influence on real time events, if not just the unconscious and sub-conscious minds. Let's be up beat, because based on everything we're hearing it's just a matter of time before we blow up, thanks Greg...
All I'm saying is if you haven't got anything nice to say, get the hell out of the stock, or don't say anything at all...
I hear that!! Front loaders...
I'm sure there has to be other stocks out there that can meet your timeline. By all means, pursue them... VPER is right on schedule to do big things in the very near future here. Rome wasn't built in a day my friend.