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Nice analogy.
Now you actually have a decent "debating strategy".
A little bit of sugar and a lot of venom:
"Humanitarian flashes of words"
"in the shackles of his own mercy"
"a tyranny based enslavement"
And the concerned savior (with no shares) of us all:
"the choice of making rational decisions should be based on the results of past experiences"
"It's about progression as an individual/investor"
"has nothing to do with your belief system in this stock really"
When combined it gives an aura of believability.
You make me laugh, thanks.
Evidence establishes proof, so the distinction you draw is only a matter of semantics.
Stating that you did not say what you did say in previous posts and through implication and innuendo does not make your original proposition true either.
You apparently misinterpret the quotes you use to support your assertions. The only thing I do is to point out the obvious issues with your statements, logic, and support you use to arrive at the far-fetched conclusions you then attempt to use to disparage MDGC on a daily basis.
The only debating strategy I see is your deflection by claiming that my argument is what yours is and your frustration in reading/responding to my posts.
As you can see from my initial statement, I actually enjoy our exchanges.
It appears the only "natives" that are "ready to burn down the house" are the ones without shares.
"that a proposition is necessarily false because it has not been proven true"
Hate to break it to you, but the quoted "logical fallacy" above is exactly what you are asserting, yet again:
"The point is that MDGC has made several announcements regarding WiMax rollouts and to date, none have proven to be true."
MDGC made a statement (the proposition) and you cannot prove that it is true, so you are trying to convince others that it is false based purely on your "logical fallacy".
You provided the definition, not me. Sorry it cuts both ways.
"The point is that MDGC has made several announcements regarding WiMax rollouts and to date, none have proven to be true."
How do you know that the rollouts did not happen? Maybe they did based upon a partnership agreement with Clearwire to resell their service, but Clearwire would not own up to their infringement of MDGC's patents. So, the relationship and roll out ended and MDGC is no longer a partner in the roll out.
And, again, you are not able to state something as a fact simply because you cannot prove that it is true.
Interesting quote, please post from whence it was taken including the date.
Then why the campaign against the MediaG3 now that you are not in the stock?
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57502739
It was just 10/25/2010 when you pitched this:
My MDGC Pitch: "MediaG3 will make history and break more records in the stock world and technology then what Jerry Rice did for the NFL...
Apple destroys Google in Market Cap. MediaG3 will completely annihilate Apple...
Did I catch your attention yet? Wonder why 2,000 + investors feel the same way?"
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profiles.aspx?user=176956
Are you the same person that suggested Google would want to buy MDGC in March?
"Going out on a limb..Google to buy Level3 and ClearWire and affiliates. :)"
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=46623215
And:
"well this is not construction and if they are providing this service to that many customers they do not have time to contact you on a daily basis. I am currently in a project that has only a half a dozen sites set up with less than 2500 wimax/microwave customers and they dont know their ass from a hole in the ground. Much less have time to get updates to everyone. So I can imagine this company is running around like mad."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=48843718
And:
Well they hired 3 power houses not 3 janitors it is news why would they jeopardize their status with a penny stock if it is not anything there. this is the start of a series of pr's i would think.
I think a lot is going on behind the scenes with this company. They are a part of a multi billion dollar business that has patents and they can release information until the attorneys allow them to.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=50779033
Are you looking for a good re-entry point or something?
Exactly! The same answer applies to your question:
"...can you find even one claim by MDGC in those 5 PRs and updates that actually later proved to be true."
It is an "Argument from Ignorance" because it "asserts that a proposition is necessarily true [or false] because it has not been proven false [or true] (or vice versa)." The brackets are mine to insert the corollary i.e. the vice versa arrangement.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57230207
So, please stop using the argument from ignorance in an attempt to prove your points.
I have trouble following your slanted extrapolations, but, based upon the press release stating that Val was "leading this exciting WIMAX service platform for the company" and some of the larger investors statements about who actually ran the company and made the important decisions,
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/MediaG3-Enters-New-Corporate-Phase-With-Retention-AXS-International-Assist-With-Managing-1188055.htm
I would be willing bet that the following press release highlights the time Val actually took the helm i.e. the beginning of the turnaround and the reason I am here.
Feb 01, 2010 09:15 ETMediaG3 Enters New Corporate Phase With the Retention of AXS International, to Assist With Managing Potential Acquisitions, Business Development and Financing Plans
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/MediaG3-Announces-the-Launch-of-Imperial-Wireless-4G-WiMAX-Services-in-Boise-Idaho-1202415.htm
I am not invested in MDGC because of the decisions of the prior officers (though acquiring the Wytec patents was a great accomplishment just as was the China Pilot project and the 5 years of work it took to make it happen, which resulted in many of the relationships and opportunities MDGC has today), but what is being done with what MDGC has now, today.
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/-1201248.htm
I believe MDGC has the technology, the backing, the dedicated management, and the plan to make a substantial mark in the telecom industry. That is why there are over 2000 investors in MDGC that do not appear interested in selling their shares right now.
All in my humble opinion.
The answers to your questions have been hashed and re-hashed on this board many many times in the past. I would start with looking back at prior posts for clearer picture. If you are a paying customer with IHub you could start with a search for Yuan and follow the threads from there.
Again, you're joking right? If you are describing the terms used in the 9/30/2010 quarterly financial report about items of history does not make the term definite in terms of the historical context in which it was used. Yuan was obviously the "former CEO" on September 30, 2010 whether the information you reference is discussing a time before he left or not.
On Dec 22, 2009 09:00 ET MediaG3 President, Joseph Anzalone stated the following: "2009 was a turbulent year for most companies as we all struggled with the challenges of this volatile economic environment. Notwithstanding these challenges, MediaG3 made great strides in the development of its business and operating plan, which is expected to yield prosperous and exciting results in 2010."
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/MediaG3-Management-Outlines-Corporate-Developments-2009-Highlights-Plans-2010-Operating-1181897.htm
New Resource Bank Appoints SVP to Lead Commercial Banking Group
Silicon Valley Veteran Joe Anzalone to Manage Business Lending and Develop Target Markets
January 12, 2010 08:19 PM Eastern Time
SAN FRANCISCO--(EON: Enhanced Online News)--New Resource Bank (OTCBB:NWBN) has appointed Joe Anzalone senior vice president in charge of the Commercial Banking Group. He is responsible for managing business lending, including the bank’s new asset-based lending program, and developing target markets.
http://eon.businesswire.com/news/eon/20100112007361/en/Joe-Anazalone/New-Resource-Bank/Northern-California
MediaG3 Names Joseph Anzalone President and Chief Operating Officer
Business Wire, April 15, 2009
SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- MediaG3, Inc. (OTCBB: MDGC), a leading developer of broadband wireless products, today announced the promotion of Joseph L. Anzalone, Senior Vice President, Operations, to President and COO, effective immediately. Mr. Anzalone has also been elected to the Board of Directors. Mr. Anzalone will expand his responsibilities to include business development, mergers and acquisitions and fund raising.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_20090415/ai_n31540977/
Feb 01, 2010 09:15 ETMediaG3 Enters New Corporate Phase With the Retention of AXS International, to Assist With Managing Potential Acquisitions, Business Development and Financing Plans
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/MediaG3-Enters-New-Corporate-Phase-With-Retention-AXS-International-Assist-With-Managing-1188055.htm
MediaG3's chairman Val Westergard stated: "Troy is an inspiration who demonstrates the epitome of the American Dream.
I notice that you are citing opinion with no substantiation as fact. Interesting support for your baseless claims. I think you are the only one that thinks Val was CEO before February 2010.
That sounds like an advertisement for the antiquated way of doing things by the old guard, the Big 3. We are investing in the Next Generation of technology that will support the ever growing hunger for more information obtained wirelessly at lighting fast speeds that cannot be achieved today by the technology currently offered to the masses. Enter MDGC and its disruptive technology. All notions of what was will quickly be replaced by what MDGC will be, IMHO.
Are you trying to say that because the "projects" were not completed that no "testing" was performed? Talk about a play on words. Your assertion is baseless and logically rediculous. Keep trying.
I also like seeing the .0043 trade go off and then ETMM raises the bid to .0044.
Now, ETMM. There is a fight for the top bid spot.
Not sure how the related companies list is generated on Google Finance, but the MDGC's list has evolved from almost entirely lesser known penny stocks to including Verizon, Neustar, and Motricity. This is a fairly recent change.
And, if MDGC has what they say they have, MDGC will be years ahead of what Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile can provide to their customers speed wise. Hell, they are already lying about the services they provide in order to keep up. Not one of them is anywhere close to providing true 4G services.
With so much on the line, I understand the lack of transparency at the moment. It does not make much sense to uplist if you are trying to keep the newsworthy information under wraps until you are ready to begin spending some of those media credits, IMHO.
Why let the cat out of the bag before it is ready to roar.
He is using the same tactics employed in your post.
The question is "can you find even one claim by MDGC in those 5 PRs and updates that actually later proved to be [not] true."
Yes, and it needs to be secure. It appears to be a work in progress.
The http://www.a4wireless.com/boise.htm site has been changed to remove the date reference and there is a link to the A4wireless sign-up form, which was updated yesterday. Looks like MDGC is working on putting the service sites together.
Hence the $10 million in media credits that have not been tapped, at least, based upon the last financial report. There is no sense in releasing the products and service in a piecemeal fashion especially if one supports the other.
I am not using a wireless router for the DSL connection and I will get back to you on the aircard, it is built into the computer.
I hope sooner than later its a great mark for MDGC.
It looks like it was since the mark is live and the Registration Date was June 29, 2004. That would make the filing due between June 29, 2009 and June 29, 2010, right?
You do realize that no one is actually providing 4G (as defined by International Telecommunication Union) as advertised, right? Not Verizon, not Sprint, and not T-Mobile as you suggest. If MDGC is able to provide the speeds mentioned in the recent update they will be the first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
http://www.mediag3.com/media.php?id=348
I believe someone recently posted an article on this board about the contradiction in terms.
I wonder if this is MDGC's application:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/iwifi-free-wifi-spot/id308262180?mt=8
Otherwise, there may be a Trademark infringement issue:
http://tess2.uspto.gov/
Word Mark IWIFI
Goods and Services IC 038. US 100 101 104. G & S: PROVIDING TELECOMMUNICATIONS CONNECTION TO A GLOBAL COMPUTER NETWORK. FIRST USE: 20030320. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20030320
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 76560068
Filing Date November 3, 2003
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Published for Opposition April 6, 2004
Registration Number 2857767
Registration Date June 29, 2004
Owner (REGISTRANT) IMPERIAL WIRELESS LTD LIAB CO IDAHO 350 N. 9TH STREET, SUITE 304 BOISE IDAHO 83702
Attorney of Record ROBERT L. SHAVER
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE
Not sure if anyone else noticed, but StockTA.com is now Bullish on MDGC for the Intermediate term.
Agreed, I hope we are about done consolidating though. It appears we have a strong base now, IMHO. I am confident that there is a well thought out plan to release all that is going on in a timely and coordinated fashion so MDGC's "growth will instead be a slower, steady build up, but with a greater potential effect over time."
http://www.mediag3.com/media.php?id=29
WLFO went from .001 to over $1 and back down. I hope MDGC's rise is slow and steady to avoid the return trip.
Even taking everything about MDGC's past in the post as true, which it is obviously not, I am willing to bet that the large majority of current shareholders have invested or are investing in MDGC because of what the company is since Val has taken over and what we all believe it will be. I fail to see the significance of the intentions of the prior officers. It only shows what a great turnaround Val has accomplished for the company and its shareholders.
Boy am I getting ripped off by my current providers.
Giving opinions about the future, which none of us know or trying to connect the dots is not even comparable to coloring the past as if it was fact. Spreading purposeful misinformation that you know to be incorrect should be combated whether it is helpful to company or not. Neither is helpful to the long term growth or perception of MDGC, which are somewhat intertwined from a PPS valuation perspective. So, I certainly appreciate the efforts of negativegeforce and others who show through cited information the fallacies of these posts.
Well said.
Speedtest results for New Orleans:
HP aircard (Verizon service):
Download 1.24 mb/s
Upload .44 mb/s
Verizon Mobile (Incredible):
Download 2.42 mb/s
Upload .58 mb/s
AT&T FastAccess DSL Extreme 6.0:
Download 5.64 mb/s
Upload .43 mb/s
.0048 is up on the bid, any takers.
I am very comfortable with my investment in MDGC and looking forward to seeing all the many different factes of the company come together whether it is in 1 week, 1 month, 1 year or longer. I firmly believe and am confident that we will all be rewarded for our patience in the relatively near future, IMHO.
I also appreciate Val & Co. providing us with updates, what is this the 4th since mid-November, on the website concerning the pilot testing, web site enhancements, and online store creation.
Might as well consider my shares restricted because they are not going anywhere.
http://wifibridges.com/
Nice, looks like things are moving along.
I for one have been impressed that not even the added time element has aided this effort to unhinged shares from the dedicated/convinced shareholder base. The fear of the few you describe is rampant here and desperation becomes more apparent every day.
Obviously, then why did you neglect to complete the analysis. My post was just a simple demostration that information about MDGC can be colored in any number of ways to produce the intended conclusion whether it is implied or stated. The lack of civility is in only concentrating on the negatives of MDGC and never commenting on any positive aspects of the company into which many have tied much money. Productive discourse includes both.
The truth is, whether you wish to recognize it or not, if even 25% of MDGC's technology and/or services become monitized and operational, the PPS will rise uncontrollably. I have been a share holder for over a year and am convinced that we are close to this happening. I do not wish those with the large short position in MDGC any ill will, but I hope they cover soon and buy instead of borrowing shares, so we can all benefit. There seems to be an aweful alot of effort going in to trying to destroy a good developing company and dedicated CEO instead of helping them grow.