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NOW THATS funny...
funny thing is THAT HOW I FOUND OUT ABOUT THESE CRAP COMPANY'S
A EMAIL ON A HOT STOCK TIP!!!!!!!LOL
i don't even think its fun for short sellers or day traders...
level 2 ...is that a software program?pps? guess watching cramer isnt enough..lol
k to be day trader you need 25,000 in account..does that go for penny stocks
like say i buy a stock can i sell that day and not be concidered day trader?
all i have invested in is sure fire stocks beside hglc...
Yea im all new to the penny thing....Guess it is my fault.
Guess I was one that though it hit gold...The hype can sucker you in...
Im just a country boy...I ran across cons and have to admit this one is a good one
the day i got a post deleted was the day i knew...
see now it all a game here
how do you find out about good mineral investments and stuff that make you true money
dont think im cut out for this im to honest at heart
breakthebank1!lol
hey want to pay me to drive stock down so you cAN GET IT CHEAP?maybe i can gain my losses back..that what i was accused of...hehe
hey nellcat go over to hglc and tell the poor folks this stuff..they think there going to be rich...lol
Wayne...I'm of HGLC board
I had a stake there in stock..lost my a...
wether this is the infamous mr.lumb or not people have lost a lot of money ..from both boards
the only ones that aren't are the momentum players.
I believe in this at first but now the crap is getting deep
If Mr Lumb wanted to help his friend out he would take his name off and get out...
I was accused of being paid to bash or drive down a stock ..
I posted stuff about mr Lumb and there history and my thread got canceled on HGLC
Is it me or no one wants to here the truth?
There is million being made and it sure Isn't from the true investor
when does it stop?
Or is it me Over reacting
My gut keeps telling me the Na sayers are not
If you look at my past post on hglc you will find stuff there and it not all tabloids I don't think..
I didn't find anything on Mr Santini but the more that is spoken the more that gut feeling is saying run like hell
AS THE SAYING GOES......
THERES A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go over to ffgo read all the is posted...think it saids it all wow
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=31073474
look at my post before you make decisions please
past history is bad bad bad
why would you believe now?there toying with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stephen lumb is a con...proven one and he is leading the pack
PLEASE DONT THROW YOUR MONEY AWAY GUYS
http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21834838
To: ByrnesSithLordFraud who wrote (16084) 10/28/2005 12:41:10 PM
From: scion Read Replies (1) of 18986
..the day that Stephen Lumb was appointed to the board of Hanover Capital, and appointed chief executive of Hanover Capital, Grant Thornton said they would resign the next day.
Ken Gooding: Moneyweb's man in London
Alec Hogg
Posted: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 00:00 | © Moneyweb Holdings Limited, 1997-2005
MONEYWEB: In tonight's top story, we cross to Moneyweb’s man in London, Ken Gooding, with his fascinating story involving some ex-South Africans. Ken, you will hear that I said ex-South Africans – that is, in the hope that these people, with all the fracas that they are causing in London are not going to be branded South Africans. But I suppose that is a forlorn hope. Let’s go back a little bit though. There’s a company there called Hanover Capital, it’s listed on the AIM. What exactly is the AIM? And tell us a bit about Hanover Capital.
KEN GOODING: Hanover Capital set itself up last October, deserted its old dot.com background to turn itself into a mining investment company. Got some new management, and it was already listed on the London Stock Exchange Alternative Investment Market, which we call AIM. And AIM is a kind of loosely regulated part of the stock exchange. It’s not so expensive to belong, and it really is for smaller, more dynamic companies, suiting a lot of the mining companies who are listing in London and prefer AIM to the main market now.
MONEYWEB: What exactly does Hanover Capital do, though? What projects do they have?
KEN GOODING: Well, at the moment it’s a bit nebulous. They have bought some companies which own some gold projects in Mali, and that’s the start of their investment. Basically, as a mining investment company, what they want to do is take up companies that have got a stock exchange listing, but nothing else, and inject mining assets into them. Hanover retains a chunk of these companies, and other investors take on some of the risk. It’s like the old mining finance house on a smaller wave, really. But it’s hardly got going. I mean, it got its new money in October and the shares are suspended at the beginning of April. So they really haven’t done too much in the time being, except create quite a kafuffle here.
MONEYWEB: You say the shares were suspended. That is a direct result of the appointment of a rather controversial fellow called Stephen Lumb as the chief executive?
KEN GOODING: Yes, as I understand it, the way the AIM system works is that you have to have a nominated adviser. And the nominated adviser’s job is to make sure that the company that it’s advising obeys all the rules and regulations of the stock exchange. And that means that the stock exchange itself doesn’t have to monitor all these small companies. They select the nominated advisers very carefully. In December, because of the dotcom change, Hanover Capital changed its nominated adviser to an accountancy company, a big accountancy firm here called Grant Thornton. Now, the day that Stephen Lumb was appointed to the board of Hanover Capital, and appointed chief executive of Hanover Capital, Grant Thornton said they would resign the next day. Hanover Capital didn’t have another nominated adviser lined up, and the stock exchange said right, no nominated adviser, the shares must be suspended. The company has been looking for another nominated adviser since then, and I understand they have found one. But, as these things always turn out, in order for this new adviser to settle in place, Stephen Lumb would be leaving the board and be leaving his new appointment after less than a month in the seat.
MONEYWEB: This is the same gentleman who brought Igaming to the Johannesburg Stock Exchange, and Essential Beverages to the Johannesburg Stock Exchange. Both companies that were singularly successful in losing a lot of people a lot of money. But about nothing else. The decision by Grant Thornton to resign the minute that this gent was appointed – do you have any other information on it? Was it a pure coincidence?
KEN GOODING: I think the point is this. All right, a lot of people lose a lot of money on stock exchanges the world over, particularly people who put money into exploration companies. We don’t expect them all to make us money. But what happened with Igaming was that the Johannesburg Stock Exchange actually rapped Stephen Lumb over the knuckles. They said he had broken the rules, he didn’t have a sponsoring broker for the company. He was chief executive of Igaming and he hadn’t produced any interim results. Lumb said, “I didn’t know I was supposed to do any of that”. But the Johannesburg Stock Exchange was cross, he resigned. In today's market, you cannot move from one jurisdiction to another, and expect to leave all these black marks behind. And, obviously, he has been hovering around in the background at Hanover Capital. Grant Thornton knew about his previous experience with the Johannesburg Stock Exchange and decided that they wouldn’t want to deal with him if he was on the board. And consequently, when he was appointed to the board, they said, well sorry, we warned you and we’re off.
MONEYWEB: Another intriguing part of this whole story, Ken, is the three gentlemen who are behind, or who are partners in Hanover Capital, those who brought Stephen Lumb to the party – all South Africans. And Ron Lowenthal.
KEN GOODING: No, Ron Lowenthal is a South African stockbroker. Simon Robinson, as far as I am aware, is an upright Englishman and he’s been running a public-relations company here in London.
MONEYWEB: Upright? Running public relations companies? I wonder who’s worst of two, Ken? No, I’m kidding.
KEN GOODING: Unfortunately for Mr Robinson, he has been put into the position of salvaging Hanover Capital from this mess caused by the resignation of the nominated adviser, and he’s been working very hard on that. And I think he’s managed it. But I think he was sitting with the new nominated adviser-to-be this afternoon and, with a bit of luck, by the end of the week the poor shareholders in Hanover Capital will at least be able to sell their shares if they want to.
MONEYWEB: Because the shares as you say are suspended at the moment. Ron Lowenthal – that is the son of Norman Lowenthal, the former JSE chairman.
KEN GOODING: Well, you are ahead of me there. I haven’t – my private eyes – been doing much investigation on Mr Lowenthal. It's Stephen Lumb who is at the centre of this problem.
MONEYWEB: Indeed he is. That was Ken Gooding. He produces the goods, day after day, week after week, and it’s another great reason to visit Moneyweb and indeed Mineweb where Ken focuses most of his attention – on the mining sector. What a lovely story, Stewart Bailey. You’ve been following the ups downs of Stephen Lumb. We’ve been following them certainly on Moneyweb for quite some time now. It is surprising how people can leave the JSE under somewhat of a cloud and think they can get away with the same thing in London.
STEWART BAILEY: It just goes to show that you only have one name, as a wise man once said, and you really can’t afford to screw up your reputation, because it will follow you. And it just goes to show that the world’s a small place and the London market certainly knew about his past here, and I think that’s going to be the end of his career as the chief executive of any listed company.
MONEYWEB: What I would like to know is how the Ron Lowenthal, Stephen Lumb and their British partners found £3m, presumably given the exchange control approval. Remember that these are companies that they were running that have gone bust. Where did the £3m come from which they are supposedly going to be putting into Hanover Capital, if they haven’t put it in already?
STEWART BAILEY: I would imagine they’ve probably got backers of some shape, size or from. There is one born every minute. So not really that surprising.
http://www.moneyweb.co.za/archive/374205.htm
interesting tidbit and connection here huh?
"What I would like to know is how the Ron Lowenthal, Stephen Lumb and their British partners found £3m"
here is more links
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=11211568
http://www.stockbrokerfraudblog.com/2007/09/pump_and_dump_scheme_involving.html
http://www.streetinsider.com/company_spotlight.php?id=43
http://www.kiplinger.com/columns/picks/archive/2007/pick1010.htm
http://boards.fool.co.uk/Message.asp?mid=10962780&sort=whole
http://www.stockwire.com/component/option,com_joomlaboard/Itemid,159/func,view/id,103426/catid,173/limit,30/limitstart,0/
here another forum
http://www.onlinetradersforum.com/showthread.php?t=1719
http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34618
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=013307;p=1
http://primezone.com/newsroom/news.html?d=118456
LINKs OF past stuff with this company...
not trying to tear down company maybe thre some positive i dont know ...i think all should investigate for each has there own money in it...
Here some past documents for all to read not sure If it has any relevance or If it is stuff already posted..I do not have time today to read thru this stuff It might not mean anything who knows
http://sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=P93000006265&inq_came_from=NAMFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0001&names_name_ind=N&names_cor_number=&names_name_seq=&names_name_ind=&names_comp_name=PRIMETIMEGROUP&names_filing_type=
http://sec.edgar-online.com/2005/11/01/0001013762-05-001428/Section8.asp
http://edgar.brand.edgar-online.com/EFX_dll/EDGARpro.dll?FetchFilingOrig1?SessionID=sXEEjNVjuQW9Pkr&ID=3975528
Could this be legit?There might slim chance.
for those that are being negative to make a few bucks you are the worst kind
Everyone take a deep breath ..
I think most will hold out..
Its like going to Vegas putting money in a slot machine..
I see some are concerned and did some homework..
see some put info already known by most ..
yea property was sold..where does it state that HGLC bought...
I SEE ARGUMENT ON BOTH SIDE coming and what I comes down to this thing is getting hyped but its losing ground because there has been boiler room scam involved
Is HGLC involved ?We don't no yet
For all pumping GREAT you believe there not
If you doing it cause you truly believe great..your the one the has to look in the mirror
I'm willing to lose all of my small investment If it mean someone else wont cause
not saying before writing this I didn't think mmm maybe if I keep my mouth shut and let the hype keep going I can make money also
Where the hell is HGLC in this?Maybe you would think they would be coming up will something the keep investor believing after all this negative stuff..
promises mean nothing when you have made the before and not followed thru
you need documents financials
where there is millions involved don't this there IS NOT smart people who can pull it off.
I hope it is true again sit here today and say should I take what's left of a tiny investment and run
If there guys are scammers maybe we need to out smart them If there not then we prove there legit
Proof is in the Pudding
PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING
OK for ALL who think this is legit give me a legit reason why....
This stock will take a Hit and then even if they are legit..they will pull the trigger till it goes up...ffgo already stated that
so far there is no proof they own any gold property
no buy back
ffgo threats
stock falling
people losing money
Now tell me why you are so damn confident
believe me i hope you are right
Im trying to believe but whats to say we all we weren't scammed.
Your right to say trust no..one is penny land
If this turns out to be a scam those who pump it up will be blamed..now for those conderned ...do you want that on you shoulders or do you really care.
there to many question unanswered here
Now like i said i would probably be out 450.00 if this is a scam
not alot i guess but that a weeks pay check for some
I see this "well it penny land so If you get screwed its you fault"
I think the ones that promote a stock hype it up are responsible for doing the dd..
Im pissed i didnt..one thing i learned don't google call letters google company name....because i looked nothing came up under HGLC
We are all here to make money.
looks like penny stock we have to police ourselves
If that mean exposing someone of peopole so be it
We have a day till 9.30 monday morning to make a decision
we all need to do dd for the good or for the bad cause im sure there are some here that could lose a bundle
people complaining here have the right to complain
because these companies do not have that great of track record
faul attempt at businesses(convenience store) and have not dug up a ounce of gold yet.
Now know how we can find out who owns what who bought what etc?
please come forward
RONNIE Is there any proof the own any of this property?After reading that uk stuff I cant see how you still have confidence or am i missinb something here?
What the ff....didnt anyone do research?Now i feel stupid cause i didnt ..of cousre i didnt put up much..That old saying "IF IT'S TO GOOD TO BE TRUE" ...do I have to say anymore?this will see .000
within first 15 minutes monday
WOW I Garentee there not sitting in florida either..
think I figured it out..
ffgo is one driving down out stock...
what a plan..the even said pr they where going to buy more shares
there excuse was to stop bottom baggers
I think it is to drive down price so the can accumulate more of hglc shares
think about it HGLC has 10 million to spend
Maybe thing take time..
Thing like this Don't happen overnight..
maybe pr's are to keep people intrested till deal is struck
maybe ffgo is the reason
seem to me there the ones dragging the feet
maybe there are giving hunt the run around
maybe they are do the old hand shake then saying mmmm maybe we can get more money out of theses saps since the have 10 million to spend
when your talking this kind of money it dog eat dog
but...If this company goes thru with this alot of money will be made
Put it this way If there wasnt all the negative we would have never touched this stock with a 10 foot pool
Can some please find some documintation on hglc that they sold or bought properties lately..
something that can put life back in
didnt mean to single anyone out
"HGLC has a history of posting extraordinary things they do not follow through with"
k before you start spilling out crap..
under this managment team i want some damn proof..
Anyone investing the life saving on a pennny stock didnt need to be here...
ronnie you make a call and tell Saner they need to do something
file something ,post something...this is dying
If theres nothing to counter act this crap that being posted.
We all want to believe in this company but is see alot of running and not buying in...
ffgo said they had a gameplan to get rid of bottom scum..think plan worked...No till buy back happens i dont see it going anywhere
bought some
could only buy 20,000 shares at a time thru zecco not sure why....