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Well I understand the emphasis on DD but I do not understand how one concludes a whole lot of positive from it? All evidence points to, that my initial assessment of Mr. Wood and Mr. Bird being too inexperienced to manage this well, was correct. Insiders have not bought anything other than create a debt mechanism in which to fund the companys operations.
They went from around 3.5M shares outstanding in the beginning of the year to 76M OS and brought the pps down from $1.20 to 0.009. While I understand that a company needs to raise capital to bring a product to market, I do not understand this companys strategy. I have invested in manufacturing companies for many years and this company is either making a lot of mistakes (at shareholders expense)or is not playing by the rules. In my opinion, the manufacturing costs for a product such as a DeltaWave should not have been more than $200-250k. Tooling and design should not have been more than $150k and the rest could have been allocated for packaging and first run. The strap and hose are all available "off the shelf" from suppliers or could easily be done OEM for them by a third party.
Take all this into consideration and then weigh it against the fact that the company states in its disclosure that it raised $3M but has no product. Odd but even odder it states that it has spent over $500k in advertising! What are they advertising (I have not seen anything) and why are they advertising when they do not have anything to sell? In addition, they have spent $300k in lab testing and inventory? If they have inventory why are they not selling them and if they did tests how come they dont publish the results?
Of course all this is based on them raising just half of what they said they raised and doesnt match up with the more than 60M shares they pushed into the market of which their estimates are based on.
I do not mean to offend anyone but this company is not going anywhere anytime soon. JMO, sorry if I upset anyone-not my intention
The patents I found are related to people associated with the company. Theres a list. I think its all intentional so its not easy to track back to company. My guess is that they are going to bring everything over after they do their M&A deal. We have found several things associated with people at the company-websites, other companies, patents, etc
They have been planning this for at least 3-4 years is what we estimate. The CEO/management is very methodical and clearly VERY patient. I give him a lot of credit for staying so cool considering the circumstances. He has to be more experienced than I initially thought. I am sure his govt background helps a lot as well.
From what I can see with the filings they are doing things behind the scenes. Looks like they did filings with FL/DE, SEC and FINRA. OTC is less transparent go figure). I would assume they already did their filings with OTC and its in process. Depending on what they are doing it could take a few weeks to a few months. Depends on their plan and when they started. One thing is certain, they are definitely making a move. I give them a lot of credit though-they definitely know how to keep a secret and they are putting A LOT of effort to limit paper trails and keep things under wraps. The CEO's military and intel background definitely shows.
Imagine if you would have sold a week or two ago? You would have an extra $5k+ to invest in something else! Now youre down to $20k instead of the $25K you had a week ago! Wait much longer and you might lose another $5k!!!!
Everyone drunk on candy? Happy belated Halloween all!
With all do respect they had significant losses fr a vry long time. Cashflow means nothing if you are at a loss without a plan. There are endless of examples of companies that carried losses for years and then turned cashflow positive and eventually successful BUT there are an even MORE amount of companies that carried losses and failed. The difference is the plan and of course scalability. UATG is VERY scalable and clearly they have a plan. Lets hope its a good plan!
I am sure they do but its more likely they are preparing for something like a merger and already have funding. Many companies do this. Remember how long Turner, Amazon, Facebook, Fedex, Tesla, etc didnt make money for? Just because they dont have positive cashflow doesnt mean they dont have acees to money or that they wont be successful. Costs are high in the beginning especially doing a merger like this. Of course it depends on exactly how they do merger and who is involved.
Dont have any additional info but just because they have inventory in and are ready to delivery doesnt mean they will. They might also be waiting on other technicals as well as timing on marketing campaign. I have seen companies do similar things before a merger. They want the pps cheap AND stable so they can maximize M&A costs and conversion metrics.
I have my doubts about that happening.
I dont think they have lied (intentionally). I think they are trying to do too much at once in a short time-frame. They eventually deliver just always late. The company as a whole needs to learn how to manage expectations better. My guess is that everything is going to happen at once so that shorters and manipulators dont have a chance to react quick enough. I really do believe that all this is intentional.
One of my guys came across a few whispers.
How did you hear about that?
Lets try that again
These are the sites
http://hygieiasheets.com/
http://hygieiakids.com/
Not sure if they want anyone to know so keep it quiet
These are the sites that popped up about two weeks ago just after their last round of maintenance
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lol. Pure entertainment. Good to see the same people are here.
The secrecy is ALL about the money on the line. Also probably due to what happened in the past. The CEO has a very tight grip on things now which I believe is the reason things are moving so slowly. He needs to loosen up just a little bit.
Other companies? Now you are starting to see what I have been talking about. I have said for a long time that this management is made up of a lot of people from the military and intelligence community- they are more calculating, methodical and are not going to move any faster than what they deem to be productive. I dont think these guys are in a hurry nor do I think they care about what we think. They care about reaching their objective. Thats how guys like that think. They arent emotional. That said I think they are close to letting the cat out of the bag although I do not see how it will be before the end of the year now. I could be wrong because hey, I dont have all the info. Wish i did.
They have other product websites up and pending as well. They are not shutting down but expanding. Also found a pretty interesting document online about a pending building purchase in the Tampa Bay area. That matches up with what the CEO alluded to previously. These guys have access to cash for sure and are executing a deliberate strategy. I think they will come out the other side of this a stronger company. Its probably why they are keeping it so tightly held, they dont want the manipulators on the pinks interfering. I am starting to think that they are intentionally trying to look like they are defunct for that specific purpose (also to keep stock price down).
Also, dont worry about cap structure so much, I doubt it will stay there. The ROI is the only thing that matters. After all, isnt that why all of us put our money in? Capitalism not charity!
Never said the company hasnt fallen short or doesnt need to make improvements but there is a difference between that position and framing reality through the lens of bias. Remember, money doesnt care whos pocket its in. Opinions and bias dont influence which wallet your cash sits in. Facts, metrics and analysis will always be the measure against which I make financial decisions. I am focused on winning not feeling better.
The products that UAT sell are not Photoshopped as this has been discussed and disproven many times. Every company does renderings for concepts and future designs. Everyone knows that the iphone commercials they have for launch videos do not show an actual iphone. Products under development dont get made anymore until design is final. Its a cost savings strategy that’s been around for years.
Intrepid has not been a part of UATG for about 4 years (Its not on UATG website either). Intrepid belongs to the previous management (that the CEO fired) and has nothing to do with this company.
All of the above has been covered an discussed to exhaustion over several years here.
I will rephrase my posts since we are back to submitting my posts for removal. A little ironic considering but I will comply with the TOU set forth here
Wow! This is a "PROPOSED CONCEPT" and is NOT a rule. It is going to take time to work out this proposal as there are a few problems with it. The "catch all proposal" by the commission requiring disclosure of 10% owners is redundant as that is already in under the "affiliate' rule and does more to make the process cumbersome than transparent. Also the target is clearly the OTC not the big boards which OTC will agree to in part because it makes them more money but they will fight because it will force smaller start-ups to stay private and raise money privately. Crowd funding is now legal under SEC Regs for companies and that has already hurt OTC (Last estimates is that OTC has lost millions). Why do you think OTC has put out so many negative articles on crowdfunding and have "welcomed" the new Reg A and Reg A+ exemptions? Its about money. Their money-not yours. If you think its all to protect you the investor then you are being very naive. This is a very complicated issue with a complicated proposal.
Also, under SEC regulations the Commission has an obligation to give companies time to comply with ANY new regulation. Typically its a year.
Another point worth mentioning is that this proposal is currently undergoing comments from legal, issuers, market makers and many others. How long do you think that will take? SEC cant even get an S-1 or Reg A out in less than 6 months, you think they are going to change all the rules and implement them to take out UATG in 30 days?
My point is that you are pushing headlines and not facts. I wonder if you read the entire proposal when it was issued last month?
Remember they said they were going to be doing updates after the last time? They also have a few other sites up that are new
I agree and will take it a step further, I think he should have done a RS a long time ago and got this floundering company uplisted and with some real long term investors so they could have had a serious influx of large capital to launch. He has refused to do a RS specifically because of the shareholders which in my opinion has probably cost him years and a lot of money.
The simple fact is that I doubt very seriously this CEO will do a RS - EVER! he is too biased against them. I personally think that is a mistake but thats just me.
I also think hes not going to wait too much longer. If this company proves to be the vehicle for uplist then as soon as the management changes and the stop sign comes off.....Its going to happen quickly. IMO
I think they have been setting this up for at least 2-3 years.
I think you are missing my point about the pps and UATG not mattering. UATG not mattering was within a specific context but thats ok. As for pps you have to be kidding me if you actually believe that the people who bought at 0.05 would not sell when the stock goes to 0.10 and the people who bought at 0.10 wouldnt sell at 0.20 and the people who bought at 0.20 wouldnt sell when it goes to 0.40 (and so on and so forth all the way up to $5/pps) - and what do you think will happen every time the people sell into the market to take their profit? Thats right the price will drop. How long do you think it will take to get to $5/pps...... Years!!!! With all do respect and trust me I appreciate all of your WALL STREET examples but this is OTC not wall street. So called investors dont behave the same here as the investors on the big boards. They do not care about the company or its success because they do not see how it will benefit them in the long term (because they dont think long term). They also think in terms of winning the lottery and winning it quickly.
You will not and could not retain millions of shares but you could retain your percentage equity or close to it. Its all about structure. THATS WHERE THE MONEY IS and thats what my point has been the whole time.
By the way the acquisitions they did previously was not entirely due to the current shareholders. When they made those acquisition initially I believe (from what I have been able to gather and recall) that there were around 400 shareholders with an initial shareholder base of less than 50. The CEO was one of the first large investors in and I believe he has almost if not exactly $1m of his own money in. That does not include the salary he denied for years (I think 5 years no salary) and even when he took a salary I believe it was less than $40K/year. One year he took a salary of around $40k and put something like $32k back into the company PERSONALLY. Name a CEO who doesnt make six figures even when the company isnt profitable! lmao. This guy is long term and I think its obvious but thats just my opinion.
The whole "hes a crook and in this for the money thing" doesnt add up when I dig into the company. I think if anyone has an interest in the companys success it is the CEO who I am sure wants his money back plus a return.
Lets agree to disagree for now and just wait to see what happens.
Its simple, you are still talking about UATG and I am not. I am talking about capital investment and the ROI I will realize on the new company after he merger. UATG no longer matters nor does its cap structure. Again we dont have enough data to run actual numbers but we can guess. I am more concerned with what happens after the merger and a little about how they structure the merger. I do not care about the pre-merger pps other than to run calculations on return. The real money is made after merger and sub-penny is not something I am looking at. You are still on UATG and if I am correct about a merger then UATG no longer matters. What matters is literally EVERYTHING we do not know. Thats why I am here on this ticker waiting.
This CEO will probably do a merger that not only shows a typical wall street return on such transactions but will also give him more market control. In order to do that the cap structure is going to have to change. I am not sure why they felt they had to match the UATG cap structure but it is curious that they did it. I dont think it is going to stay there. He is going to tighten everything up as he goes through QB and QX on his way to the big boards. He is also NOT going to give up his shareholders - we are too valuable to him and we are a requirement for ANY uplist. In order to keep us he is going to pay us a return. He has to if he wants to be taken serious and wants to look the part as a wall street CEO that does it like everyone else. The merger will be as close to text book as he can get it IMO because again he wants out of the OTC and wants to up-list. His motivation to up-list has been obvious for years and that is what I am banking on.He also made very specific decisions that point almost entirely to an uplist strategy.
Again, 10% is a minimum in my mind and its not the only thing I want out of this stock. I want stability and continued measured growth over years. I do not see this as an overnight IPO. I am in this one because I think it has potential to be a blue chip of sorts. The CEO's vision for the long term is ambitious and is huge. For some reason I believe that he can actually do it because of the way he handles himself on the phone and how he discusses the future. Hes not just a dreamer, hes a doer. I actually thought I was crazy the first time a said it out loud but the guys on my team that were on the call with him all agreed with me and said "this guy is actually going to do it". You have spoken to hi right? ask him where he sees the company in the future and what his long term vision is. He is not thinking in terms of weeks. or months and even in terms of limiting his plan to years but generations! This guy is grooming his children to take over and hes setting the company up to be handed off to them. You think hes building a company that is going to be worthless so he can hand his kids crap? He has vision. I am not say hes Bezos or Jobs but he just might be, we simply dont know yet.
Jesus I sound like a stalker fan. lol
The point is, I am all in on this one and I am determined to help the company once they uplist and can accept help. IMO hes not accepting help right now because he has what he needs to get to the next step. Once hes there he night have things lined up but he will probably be able to take my offers more seriously. Even if he doesnt, I am going to go see him and convince him.
I never mentioned reverse split. The CEO wont do one. I asked many times. He also would have made it quicker and easier for himself by doing one which says a lot about him but more about his strategy. IMO hes setting up a merger of some type and dilution is a misunderstood term on these boards. If you have less stock but what you have now is worth more than your so called previous larger holdings does it really matter? You made money! If it does then what youre really after is holding a lot of shares which you can easily do now. If what you want is to have larger holdings at a higher price then thats fantasy land. In order for that to happen the company value would have to go up and with the share price. That means that everyone who bought cheap would have to hold through the upswing! lol. On OTC!? you cant seriously believe that is going to happen. The first sign of upswing - selling and manipulation will begin. The so called traders here are all about big talk with bragging rights about how many shares they have and how much more they know then literally every other so called stupid "CEO". They like the trade. They cant help themselves. Making money is a side benefit to their bragging rights and the activity of being in "control". I have seen it throughout my career and those guys rarely make any real money. I think the average day trader makes less than $50k/yr if I am not mistaken. Dont get me wrong thats not bad if thats what you are after but thats pretty short sighted if you ask me and it leaves a lot of money on the table.
As for 10% roi, it was an example but it also stresses one thing - a stable roi is better than what we have now. This guy is thinking long term. Very long term. He told me he wants his kids graduating college and working with him at the company. That tells you much of what you need to know about his intentions. He isnt going anywhere and neither is this company. He also doesnt like the pinks and what people are doing. Hes on the pinks because of previous management. He has stuck it out and made improvements. This guy IS uplisting and the only way that happens, that makes sense and lines up with his personality is a merger into a company that he controls and has a path to NYSE/NASDAQ. He is looking for a STABLE trading trend with STABLE growth. He is going corporate wall street. IMO
The money here is for those that see this as an AAPL, HD, WMT or DIS. You have to think in terms of years on this one because that is how the CEO is thinking about his company and remember he is the one steering this thing. He is in control. He is not thinking like you or the others that want it fast. If you dont think like him you will be disappointed and sell too soon. If you dont think like him how will you know where he is going to go? IMO
This is why I like speaking with CEO's (for those that will actually take your call) and getting to know them. They wont outright tell you anything about future decisions or strategies but knowing what they want and how they think can give you insight into what to do
The fact that they even have a seven year plan suggests they have a plan and have things in the works. It confirms my suspicions.
If they do a merger I would not worry about the amount of shares you have. I would focus on the value of your holdings. what would you rather have; 100 shares worth .001 each (one cent worth) or 10 shares worth .01 each ($1 total)? now multiply that over millions of shares! Thats the problem with the other board - They would rather have millions of worthless shares as opposed to having leveragable assets with multiples. Too 2 dimensional. That snot the way to make the real money in this market.
Just think about this, in order to make NYSE they have to be at a min pps of $2. Would you trade in your millions of shares for thousands of shares at $2/pps if you realized a 10% or higher roi in the time you have been invested in UATG? Making money is making money regardless of how many shares you own, Who cares about how many shares they own if they are showing a great than 10% roi on an investment. The time in and roi matter more to me. If these guys post seven figures in revenue with the current OS they would be at $2/pps (roughly). That would bring my ROI into triple digits minimum! WTHIN 18 MONTHS!!!!!
I suspect they have a plan to do much better than that but we will see
10%+ roi. I believe that to be conservative but really can not pin it down until they release more data after their merger. If there is in fact a merger happening. We still dont know that for sure.
Initially the plan was to buy larger blocks but when we looked at the M&A possibility we tried to buy private placement but company would not sell to us direct. That told me that they didnt "need" the money and had a plan. We will by larger blocks after merger of course depending on timing and other factors
The market for orthopedics and textiles is larger than military drones and most likely to turn dollars quicker. government contracts are notoriously difficult to get and very lengthy process
I agree. This is not the real price. If this is UATG then price will be adjusted down but will not go below the minimum pps for uplist because they wont let it. Its the whole purpose to even do all this
Just reread my post. Sorry for the way it came across. I typed and posted without re-reading (at work doing too many things at once) and didnt realize I sounded like an a-hole. lol
Not yet. I am waiting for a few more things to happen to confirm that this is UATG. When that happens I am going to start buying. Then post merger depending on how much price drops (if it does) I will level up then hold
This is EXACTLY why discussing this stuff here is a mistake. I have explained this several times and no one on that board has bothered to research it. You have constantly gone back and forth between accusing the company and supporting it. This is a long term play and you REALLY need to do due some DD on M&A transnational structures as well as look at the history of the company.
THE COMPANY HAS DONE THIS BEFORE AND IT WAS TO PROTECT THE SHAREHOLDERS! It actually worked to!
The previous merger didnt hurt the company the previous people at the top dd! You keep blaming "Alex" as if you know the guy so you can make it personal. This is a COMPANY (not one man) with many moving parts and many issues that, for those that have paid attention, have slowly been corrected/addressed one by one. You didnt invest in UATG because of your close personal relationship with a guy who happened to be the CEO- You invested because of the company. If even one of the things they have makes it to market this company could have a market cap of hundreds of millions. Oh, wait they have brought a product to market and they did it with almost no cash position to speak of. Imagine what would happen if they actually had capital to work with like from a public raise from equity investment firms, like those on Wall Street, that DONT deal with pinks. Hmmm, if only they werent a pink company, had assets and revenues with some sort of strategy to up-list like the CEO has been saying for the past 3 years while methodically targeting specific metrics to meet up-list standards. I cant imagine how they would pull that off. Maybe a merger up? Curious that a few of us have offered private placement and even offered to do a raise and we were turned down. Why? they clearly need the money right? OR maybe they dont....
You are focusing on ALL the wrong things. Evaluation doesnt mean anything ESPECIALLY when you are applying math to metrics you have no chance of fully understanding because we are NOT on the inside! We do NOT have all the data to even come close to calculating market cap of a new company post merger! I would STRONGLY recommend you research M&A structure and then look at what this company did 7 years ago. If you do that and stop letting people on the other board bias your data and conclusions you will see that if this company is doing a merger with a new company with additional assets and revenues (of course we can not confirm ANY of this because again, we dont have all the data), it will be a BENEFIT to ALL the shareholders and depending on the structure (again we arent on the inside so we dont have all the data) we might actually make money!
What they are doing is not new but if they are doing what I think, it is something that is fairly complicated and not exactly easy to pull off. If that is the case, your buddy "Alex" is a lot more sophisticated than any of us have given him credit for. If he does it favorable to shareholders then he has more integrity than most have given him credit for which I for one am leaning towards because there were several ways he could have restructured and turned things around if it was just about money for him! They would have been perfectly legal as well! Your friend "Alex" specifically CHOSE this way to uplist. WHY? I literally cant think of a more difficult or lengthy way to do it. An S-1 would have been quicker. Maybe taking company private and then doing a private offering, filing a PPM and doing an IPO would have been longer. He could have done a massive reverse, pulled capital out of the market and started over privately and relaunched using an existing vehicle. Would have been faster, less headache, cheaper and oh by the way its done all the time on OTC. Its also perfectly within regs. Why didnt he do that? You think he didnt understand how to? This guy is not as stupid as you think. I have spoken with him several times and like Gordo has said, he is smart, disciplined and strategic. A guy like him with his pedigree, relationships and experience doesnt wake up one day and decide to go criminal. No way!
I am 100% convinced that this ticker is going to turn around and I am not the only one that sees it. If I am correct with what I think their strategy is, and on a worst case scenario, I could see a a two digit ROI with continued upside. Thats why I am waiting to see what happens and that is why I have capital waiting. After a merger is the perfect time to buy more equity in this company. We might take a little downturn initially (hopefully so I can buy more while its lower) but if they are expanding we will see money on this.
Thinking minute to minute and day by day or a few months at a time is going to drive you crazy. Think 5 years plus!!! Of course we will know more as things progress but sitting tight and being patient is going to bring money on this. Even if these guys werent cash-flow positive I would hold. Do you know how many companies have gone public with no cash-flow showing for years and are now billion dollar companies? Lets just hope this management team has a plan for the future and knows what they are doing.
Sorry. Today encompassed one meeting after another.
Very interesting. They seem to be making small incremental progress towards getting current. I am hoping that once the STOP sign is lifted it will reveal a QB or QX company with Mr. Umbra listed as the CEO. That will finally confirm my suspicions for the past 18 months!
Then we have to wait and see what market liquidity, cash position and financing looks like. That have to either have it lined up or are in the process of finalizing it.
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You first! lol
I agree no excuse but there might be a reason. I dont think these guys do much by "accident". Mistakes have been made-Yes, but this is probably intentional for strategy
Understood
The CEO's integrity is not tarnished. He hasnt done anything malicious. He has delivered a company with revenues and brought company back from the brink of bankruptcy. He has made mistakes but thats not enough to say he has no integrity or its a scam. The facts show differently. He was too optimistic and some things didnt work out. Name one CO that hasnt had that happen to them.
Management needs to take a more all encompassing/holistic approach to operations so that it includes the public securities side getting the attention it needs. Their marketing and Investor Relations is lacking and will hurt the stock if they let it go much longer. Revenues are great but if they dont bring in new shareholders it wont reflect in the ticker or deliver shareholder value.