Gee, maybe its the old landlord...I've been busting my brain trying to figure out where these shares that are trading are coming or going from and it finally popped into my head that FO was paying the last landlord in shares. He's got a bundle and getting him out of the picture would be helpful, but with all that has been going on I can't remember if he cashed out already or not.
Just a thought...anyone?
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about what? The schedule? I imagine it will be posted on or before the 0430 schedule running out...
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OK who's going to be the first basher to say...
"See I told you they were going out of business, there's nothing on Monday" ROFLMAO
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shue that's funny! I've been waiting for it to pop up but now we are in suspense!!!!!! Typical Q!
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You guys need to remember that Frank mentioned those dates and THEN LOGO became a NOSHOW. That changed everything...for the better.
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Interesting read...found on RB

More and more investors are winning the game
nowadays despite all bashers that float through the
Internet that has become part of the game. Floor
traders of market makers often watch CNBC, news
wires and bulletin boards in order to follow the
market during trading session. OTC BB market makers
(MMs) don't use fundamental and technical analysis.
However, what they do realize is a lot of dumb
money does use this newest niche charting or TA
(Technical Analysis) to run a stock either up or
down. To the MMs this is like taking candy from a
baby. Simply they will paint the tape and use
whatever tactic to affect the charting bands. Thus
the public and dumb money they will have eating out
of their hands. Effectively the MMs can show a
strong stock growing weak by manipulating the close
price in order to generate selling volume, delaying
trading time to manipulate trading activities, or
even stalling the ask without honoring orders to
hold a stock price.

MMs follow a simple code of business when making a
market in a stock especially an OTC BB / PS. That is the
level that stocks will seek that yields the most
volume. Now this is very important because they
make money on the volume buying at the bid and
selling at the ask. In other words, by making the
market they are buying low and selling high. Now
smart money adheres to that rule, so do all the
market makers. They could careless whether the
stock is at $22 or at $0.0002. All they care about
is the action thus being able to sell stock at the
offer (The high) and buy stock at the bid (The
low). To increase their profitability, they make
the spread as great as possible on as many shares
as they can especially if the volume falls off.

When they have mostly all "buy" orders, that's not
the price that's going to yield the most volume.
They need both buy and sells to get the maximum
action. Remember, MMs play the volume. If the
volume decreases and there are mostly Buys that
become a one way volume, Buy volume. So what they
do is let the stock run up to a price where it runs
out of steam. They fill all the buy orders there
that they can and then comes the pullback one way
or another naturally or induced. During the pull
back they can buy tons of shares and flip them to
those averaging down or trying to catch the bounce.
At some price, the stock will be relatively stable
and yield the most volume. Now that is the average
price you will see

The average price is the point where a stock seeks
a level where MMs can profit on the most volume.
So during the day that is the price that MMs and
momentum/day traders want to see the stock at. Why?
Because they know the public and dumb money was
chasing the price thing up. Most of the time, the
MMs love a flurry of Market Orders which is a dead
sign of an artificial run or momentum. Merely it
is money in the bank for them. Most get hung in a
momentum or day trade or by the tactics of Market
makers, who are in the business to screw the public
every chance they get. They are merely making the
market liquid is their reasoning.

The market makers have created an added
complication to the OTCBB's /PS chaos of the already
volatile intra-day price movements created by dumb
money, momentum and day-traders. MMs can not relate
to long-term holders in the OTC BB / PS. That makes
absolutely no sense what so ever. They feel a large
percentage of trades in the OTC BB / PS market consist
of short-term or day-trades, MMs merely view the
barrage of buy and sell orders as relatively
neutral to the market. How they figure it is when
the average dumb money buys shares in a company,
the MMs feel or rather know with some certainty it
is very likely that dumb money will want to sell
back those shares relatively quick on the slightest
drop.

Now somewhat comfortable with this logic the MMs
merely short sells into the buying and attempts to
take the stock down in an effort to "shake out" the
weak. Since it is tough to know for sure whether a
move is the beginning of a trend, or a routine
shake out, this type of deception works quite well
for the MMs. What the long-termers do to a stock
is surprise the MMs because instead of falling, the
shorting has no effect and the price goes up. Now
that puts the MM at selling low through shorting
and thus having to buy high in order to cover.

Boy, when this happens, the MMs are not very happy
campers. The investors and traders aren't supposed to
be doing that to them. Now it becomes time to pull
out every trick and tactic in the book in order to
attempt to get a Bear Raid at every dollar/cent mark or
percent from where the stock started. Could be a
fraction of a penny in smaller priced securities.
What MMs do is give you a chance to make a small amount
of money for your momentum and day trading style by
shorting it at these levels and trying to get a bear raid
each time. Each failure is compounding the MMs
short position so they let it go to the next level.
Now come more deliberate tactics MMs use to coerce
Bear Raid or panic selling.

Once the MM is caught short and the strength of the
buy is overpowering the MM will want to cover his
short position. So the MMs call up one of his
friendly MMs and says some like "the weather is
sure rough today." The MM along with the other
"friendly MM initiates a down tick about the same
time. Now this can also be done with a certain
amount of shares such as an infamous 100 shares
flag. This down tick gives the illusion of weakness
designed to hopefully begin the bear raid of
selling. The fickle, fearful, day trader, momentum
and short term begin to sell out allowing the MM
to cover his short position at lower prices. They
will move it down quickly to get it to a price of
least financial damage. Problem they have is
long-term investors in the OTC BB / PS. They start
accumulating and buying comes flying in when they
take it too far thus the MMs took it to the point
of volume again and not only investors the other
MMs step in the make money on the spread.

Alas the poor MM does not get to cover. Now comes
various tactics like stalling, boxing, or even
locking the Bid and Ask for a while.

Of course, MMs aggressively deny any sort of
collusion designed to fix quotes or spreads.

MMs have a vast resource of tactics and it would
take probably more than a lifetime to figure them
all out.

So how do investors somehow manage to overcome the
obvious deception in OTCBB arena? One answer is
indirection trading style by going long which the
MMs do not expect. In the war between investors and
public companies on the OTC BB / PS vs the MMs, if the
MMs have all the advantages due to position or
other factors, direct confrontation such as
momentum or day trading hitting the stock is a
definite death sentence.

However, an indirect approach tends to weaken the
path of least resistance before slowly overcoming
it. The most effective way is long-term investors
slowly accumulating and holding thus drawing the
MMs out of its defenses making them as naked as
their short position. This is war so this slow
accumulation and holding for the long term easily
achieves the desired effect to force MMs to cover
and knock off the tactics or bury themselves
deeper.

The MMs when caught will especially use every trick
and tactic in the book to get a Bear Raid thus
playing on the individual fear of most people. The
MMs feel they have information and position
advantages over the investors as long as the
holding of the stock is in weak hands or short term
holders. Since they are OTC BB MMs who believe all
OTCBB companies are not worth investing and
management is ineffective regardless what is
happening within the company. Furthermore, MMs know
they are in the position to impose a great deal of
influence in OTC BB stocks trading when it suits
their needs.

This inherent power of position enables the MMs to
move the markets at any time up or down. As a
result, the only way to draw them out of their
favorable position is going long. Now this does not
mean just any company but to effectively nail the
MMs, Longs must find the great company on the floor
and accumulate long before the MM tactics and games
begin.

The timing of this makes perfect sense because Q on the Move is supposed to go into 150 markets on the 14th...
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While watching L2 is boring enough to make the Pope swear, people who say nothing is going on with Q are just plain lying.
In the last couple of days we have a killer new website with TV schedule updating hourly, the stars from Queer Eye for the Straight Girl were on Q Live yesterday and now we have Orbitz link on the website!
Hmmmmmm since I don't really want to hear the Pope swear I hope L2 starts showing the results from these efforts soon!
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BAMMMMMMMMMMMM! Kick it up a notch Frank! eom

500_and_Long LOL
I imagine there are some pretty longs noses pointing at some of those computer screens out there...
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Wow that's the first time I have EVER seen anything besides 5000 posted on L2. DOMS has 100,000 listed...hmmmmmm
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My ignore list is growing again...eom

firefight4...
Gee do you think Q looks better than big bad LOGO...I can't believe all the grief we have had over the website.
23 programs listed...hmmmmm
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Someone else just said " Hi I'm ------------ for queer eye for the straight girl and you are watching ON Q LIVE!" If Q is putting these people in the media light, we are there! Just wish I could see it...
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Skunks...she said "Hi this is Honey Labrador of Queer Eye for the Straight Girl." If she was actually on the set that really sounds good to me!
ALOHA

If there was a buy/sell meter for existing Q shareholders I think it would be pegged on the + side. Aside from our normal quiver of bashers I see many holders are buying more and are happy they have a chance too.
This is a good move and a good sign IMO.
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The Q Formula 2:
good shows = subscribers; subscribers = sponsors; sponsors = nice $ advertisers; advertisers = carriers...no doubt about it...someone will bite.
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ct_here
I really think we are going to find out who has been buying up these large blocks in the very near future. My guess is: Planet Out, Comcast, Time Warner or the like.

When that happens it doesn't matter so much how the revenue is spread, it will all be factored into the PPS which for some reason I don't think will be anywhere near the levels it is now.
One of the many articles posted stated Comcast likes to own part of the channels it promotes. That in itself is almost a slam dunk if we are on with them.
Gee lil' ol Q being part owned by a major carrier...hmmm IMO
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ct_here... It really comes down to the advertising dollars. A captive audience in the millions has to be worth something. IMO
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zandant, that's a good point, we'll just have to wait and see. I haven't heard anything about here! having anywhere near the national broadcasting ability much less live capability yet. Have you?
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A little positive speculation...
Q needs subscribers to attract ALL MAJOR CARRIERS. Planet Out has 3.3 million members worldwide. I'm not sure how many are in the US but lets say 50% are, for 1.6 million. Q gives PO a couple hours live daily (hint: GMGA is fully sponsored) to get their message out and PO recommends that their members call their carriers to get hooked up. That would be a possible $12,800,000/mo. revenue or $153,000,000/yr before advertising revs. All that from the member paying about 8 bucks a month (or even better include it in the membership).
It's that easy...and then what's going to happen when the other 1.6 mil start screaming "I want my QTV"?
Don't be shaken in your investment here.
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I don't see any other messages on this board "QBID Investors Forum Member Forum" and that is where I got it. No biggee, just curious why you are talking about bragging about shares on this board and posting your buys on another.
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By: pharmman2002
09 Feb 2005, 10:07 AM EST
Msg. 87185 of 87195
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That 5.1 million was me folks! eom

Are you saying that you wouldn't have posted this if it was a 50 mil buy? I'm baffled...
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spanky...I still haven't figured out why you are here...don't you bash the sheet out of Q on the CBS board? Or are you just another imposter?
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mcfly, it was either you or me! LOL eom

Wow! Q's price hasn't been doing much recently but my ignore list is up 800%!!! That's a first for this board as IBull held the sole position until this week.
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(((ferrgus))) there's a story! ROFLMAO! eom

dr_silkworth2002 that's actually the best replacement name I have heard! You should forward that to them...
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The shell can be cleaned with no problem if you have the correct information to input. However if the previous owners cannot/will not provide that info there is no way of getting it. This is what the audit is for.

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Unfortunately that is not the case. Once an "unclean shell" always an unclean shell. As far as I know that is...
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I believe and Edgar audit includes making sure the corporate books are in order. Apparently Q's books are not all there from years previous to them aquiring the shell and if the previous owners will not provide the info needed then they can never pass an audit.

IE: a financial audit is sufficient for bank loans and such but and Edgar audit is needed for SEC filings.

Hope that helps...
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That must have been Rubenstien selling after he heard Froy's message!
LOL
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then why are you here? Sell out. I am finally going to do to you what I did to you on RB long ago. Put you on ignore.

FWIW of course they are going to change the name.

No responce needed.
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Froy...your ignorance never ceases to amaze me.
Do you think for a minute that Rubenstien wasn't aware of the name GMGA and maybe even approved the PR. This is known as a "publicity stunt" in the business world. You ruffle some feathers, get loads of attention and then back off before a law suit.

Do you think the carriers would be happy or angry if all of a sudden Frank put the channel on the website and started to generate income from it which would in turn lessen the subscibers for the carriers. In the business world this is a certain way to lose any contracts you may have. In fact the contracts that are pending may specifically state that.

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Oh joy....Spanky this is the first time I've seen you be positive about anything. What's up with that?
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Kateric10 did you see this post I am responding too? It has the pics on it.
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Oh well...I'm off to the airport, see you guys in a week! Go Q!
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kateric10 Thanks for the info, wish I could have been there myself.
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FWIW this is what caught my attention long ago...
Posted by: BigTips
In reply to: None Date:4/19/2004 10:14:38 PM
Post #of 60336

Don't usually post here but just to let you in on an insider secrete. My cousin works as a MM and he told me there is huge talk around the MM's that they are planning a strategy and should have QBID at .10 by end of next week.
I know anyone can post anything but thats what I was told.
IMO they will probably sell off and create a scare with everyone as the price dips hard and then rebuy low and drive the price up... Good luck to all and see you at the top.

A perfect place for Q...
Efforts Under Way to Create Gay District

Sat Jan 22, 4:32 AM ET Top Stories - AP


By NICHOLAS K. GERANIOS, Associated Press Writer

SPOKANE, Wash. - Gay activists in this staid Washington city are planning to create a neighborhood of gay-oriented homes, businesses and nightlife — a development religious conservatives contend would clash with Spokane's family-centered culture.



"A gay mecca is not what we'd like to see Spokane marketed as," said Penny Lancaster, director of Community Impact Spokane, a network of evangelical Christians. "I'd rather see us promoted as a conservative, family-oriented community without any reference to sexual orientation."


But proponents of the plan say a gay district would signal that Spokane is tolerant and progressive.


"There is a very large gay population here," said Bonnie Aspen, a business owner who arrived with her partner two years ago to escape the congestion of the San Francisco Bay area.


Spokane — which in trendy Seattle is shorthand for tragically unhip — has long been dominated by conservative politics that stem from its history as a mining and farming center. But it also has a large core of Democrats and libertarians who share the West's live-and-let-live philosophy.


Most of all, the city identifies itself as a good place to raise a family — and opponents contend that's at odds with the image of a gay district.


The idea for the district has roots in the theories of Richard Florida, an economist whose 2002 book "The Rise of the Creative Class" contends the economy of the future will be created by the 38 million workers who toil in creative industries.


Florida, a Carnegie Mellon University professor, said members of the creative class consider recreation, culture and ethnic diversity, including a large population of gays, as central to where they live. Places like New York, Boston, San Francisco and Seattle have those qualities. Places like Spokane generally do not.


Even though they face little discrimination, gays stay under the radar in Spokane, said Aspen, a member of the Inland Northwest Business Alliance, an association of gay and gay-friendly businesses that is pushing the idea.


"Visibility equals freedom," Aspen said. "Invisibility we have dealt with all our life."


She predicted a gay district will exist within the next year or two.


With about 200,000 residents, Spokane has little history of gay activism, other than an effort a few years ago that added homosexuals as a protected class to its human rights ordinance.


Tom Reese, an economic development officer for Spokane, said city government is not exactly pushing the notion of a gay district, but they don't oppose it either.


"It is our desire to create an environment where diversity and different interests and lifestyles of all types can flourish," Reese said.


No public funds will be used to create the district, which is dependent on developers, Aspen said. No location has been announced.


Spokane already has a gay newspaper, Stonewall News Northwest, and some businesses that cater to gay residents. It has had an openly gay member of the City Council.


But creating a district is still important, said Marvin Reguindin, owner of a Spokane graphic design firm.


"It would help youth struggling with their sexuality to realize they don't have to go away to a big city to be gay. You can be gay right here in Spokane," he said.