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I beg to differ...about truth and facts?
You seem to miss the TRUTH & FACTS, about what Our-Street posted in his report. This all came from different web sites. Go to those web site and tell them they are liars
When it came to what Joe said about Shayne the TRUTH & FACT, is JOE said it!!!
And the best FACT is Shayne is the head of BZTG!!!
Invest1980 you must be tired!!! I'm surprised you didn't put this up last night?
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Dear Timothy
Please remove all reference to me and my comments in your reports. I was fighting with my son, what you have published is total lies. The Task report for one thing I know is a complete phoney, it was a blackmail attempt on my son, I know I was there, in fact I know plenty.
I know he has been chasing to fix the E1 thing for 5 years, waiting for his investments and debtors to be in a position to close off all old problems, not one day I know of went past when he did not work on that!!!
Invest1980 you must be tired!!! I'm surprised you didn't put this up last night? I'm not debating what Mr. Heffernan posted last night.
His letter...
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Joe sounds like a scared person to me. IMHO...I take what he (Joe) wrote with a grain of salt.
1. He blames what was posted to be Our-Streets fault. Yet Our-Street only posted a thread to what Joe posted on some board. Our-Street did not put words in Joes' mouth. Joe's bad mouthing came long before Our-Street appeared.
2. He mentions the Task Report something that is back from 9/2004. Again this was an issue with Shayne in 2004 way before Our-Street.
3. But go back onto KYC and read post from 4/14/2005 funny how Knightsbridge appears. Remember Knightsbridge/Prestige/Asian Assets?
4. Joe says he was fighting with his son and Our-Street twisted it to try to prove your speculation. Joe's first post saying bad things about his son started long before Our-Street arrived 6/25/2008. How is all the things Joe said about Shayne being twisted by Our-Street? Here is a known fact about human nature!!! Angry people and drunks (not saying Joe's is a drunk) when they speak they speak the truth.
5. He says what was written in Our-Streets report was total lies. Our-Street posted what he found with tabs so each can read and interpret for themselves.
6. So is what Joe wrote on KYC all lies? Shaynes wife being drugged up. I guess he had nothing better to come up with so he said that? He just picked drugs heroin out of thin air?
7. Joe says a long overdue phone call? God would’ve loved to have heard that conversation. I wonder if it had tones of panic, anger or bs in it? But one thing I feel it sounds like Joe was happy to at least hear from Shayne.
8. Joe says the report is wrong. Our-Street only posted what he found. The badmouthing of Shayne is only from Joe let’s all not forget that. Back to the report Our-Street only posted what he found with tabs to see for yourself.
9. LAST BUT NOT LEAST. JOE DOES NOT SAY SHAYNE IS NOT THE KEY PERSON BEHIND BZTG.
10. In Our-Streets report he says...
I have a lot more evidence from Shayne's father but I think this plus the information provided by Mike Butler below is sufficient at this time.
Now's the time to post it. Just so everybody doesn’t get me wrong…I don’t know Our-Street all I know is what he has posted shows Shayne has a shady past. And what I’ve said as to how I came across Shayne is what I know and 2 and 2 does = 4.
Maybe I lost something in the postings over the past week. Would somebody like to enlighten me as to how people working for Google has posters on this board? I guess trying to take down BZTG?
Why in God's earth would Google have anything to do with posters on this board. Where do you come up with some of the things you say.
My angle? I guess you don't read? Sometimes you post off the wall comments.
Let me get this straight Mrsmith your saying somebody on this board works for Google? Google? Yes I'm Eric Schmidt CEO of Google and I'm on this board because I'm afraid of BZTG. Where did you come up with that one?
Here's how I first caught wind of Shayne.
I was following a certain poster on RB who played several stocks, I believe I named the stocks in previous post. This person would move from stock to stock doing the same thing with each stock. Some old timers on this board also know who he was and how he worked. After a while he would even come right out and say he was working the stock. Usually not until the end
As I sit and look back it really was a good game. On each stock you would see new investors pop on the site and become caught up in the hype. But each outcome was the same, new investors bought the shares he and his group sold. New investors bought in at the high and never could get back what they put in. And sooner or later all of the stocks went to sub sub penny. One is still there.
The problem was I was too dumb at first and didn’t catch on as to what he was doing. He would even be in contact with the different CEO’s of those assorted penny stocks. He and Steve Bethke knew each other quite well. I guess the best way I can put this is between them (CEO, him & the group) IMHO they would work the stock. In every case the same way. Through many Pr’s, web updates, MOA, letters of intent, spin-offs, buybacks, new products you name it each stock put out an assortment.
They ALL had websites with great things to come etc. etc. But again not ONE of any of those stock went anywhere. I believe $0.10 was the highest one stock did. He hit em hard on that one. Your talking about him holding 20, 30 to 50 million shares let alone what those in his group had. With new investors it was like putting milk out for a kitten!!! Every week to week and a half just a little bit of milk. Hype just enough to keep investors looking for the next bowl of milk.
Now remember me not knowing what was happening (what they were doing) I would be the nay-sayer on some of the sites. And EVERY stock you had those old-timers who would slam anybody (me) who would disagree not knowing themselves who was in this group some even being taken themselves. The problem was he had an inside group who would (like I said before) buy when the price was low and then sell into each and every new newsflash.
Until one certain disgruntled person in his group got shafted by him and spilled the beans on what was happening. That was right at the same time ATCT started with Sutida, Taiwan, Prestige Asia, Lt Col., $0.07 buyback. Something every week or two do you remember? You name it, it got used. Right at this point is when I was told about this shady fat businessman from Taiwan (Shayne) who was the key player in this going overseas and the one with the shares. I was even told he came over here to see the said certain poster.
At this point I couldn't tell you if any of the GROUP is still involved or not. My guess yes. Why do I feel that way? Well because this stock is doing the SAME thing as all the others. A little milk every week or 2 just to keep investors hanging on.
Do I believe what Our-Street found about Shayne? Yes it fits into exactly what I knew of him. Is this stock doing the same thing as all the others? Yes. As I and MANY other have stated over and over and over only one thing this company needs to do is put out audited financials. I ask did they? No. Over 2 years ago they said they would. They gave some name of a Yu and what did we find out about him?
Those who want to believe can believe all they want. But I believe it is only fair that what Our-Street found out needs to be kept out in the publics eye. If as he says it was sent to the Sec then we shall see what happens. If they do nothing in my mind that changes nothing as to what I know. And that does nothing to prove Our-Streets report was incorrect. As we all know the Sec doesn’t’ always act on complaints. I’ve seen to MANY Pr’s etc. etc. which have never come to fruit with BZTG.
One poster pointed out many positive thing he feels is his proof to show this stock is something. They all just about come from where? The website which as I’ve said before a child can make a website. If this was some big deal I feel this stock would be far higher then what it has been for what over 2 years? If this was some great company in China how come there aren’t a ton of investors from China?
To everybody I say good luck. To Slojab I feel the company has had enough time to defend themselves. You need to put the info Our-Street found in the iBox for all to see. JMHO….lol
Pvlee just curious I haven't seen an FACTUAL post from you helping to show BZTG is a worth while company to invest in. Would you please point out 5 things to show new investors this is a company which is going places.
Please feel free to express your DD?
Thineer here I'll give you something closer to home to do DD on...
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Widely Recognized as one of Asia’s brightest young business people Ms Sutida Suwunnavid has amazed many with her rapid progress, Not only having Founded the well respected Prestige Group, but also having worked with many successful business launches in Thailand. Educated in Lawrence County High School, Monticello, Mississippi, USA and ahidol University she rapidly developed an understanding of both cultures and has built a solid business model based on bridging that gap.
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Being Sutida is Chairwomen and has such a great resume' why don't you do some of your own DD on her? She is educated in Lawrence County High School, Monticello, Mississippi.
Thineer you say Our-Street is wrong yet you DON'T seem to want to prove he is wrong. So I ask, why don't you prove your point to prove him wrong?
Case in point...
1. Gotta love this one from you-Who is his father? Do you see his ID (face)?
Our-Street gave us the website where he talked to the dad. Go there and ask ALL your own questions to his dad and then come back prove your point to prove him wrong.
2. The stock didn't sink.
So let me get this straight, because the stock came back some this proves the report is bogus? Okay good logic!!! If you say so.
3. Did he visit any Buzz office?
I ask did you? If you think it is so easy then fly over and ask someone at the office. Come back and prove your point. Did you even call the office and ask any questions? If so tell us who you talked to and what they said. Prove your point to prove him wrong.
4. You ask, did he give proof that the company didn't sell anything for a profit?
So I ask can you PROOVE they did? Factual in writing PROOF. Come on prove your point.
Let's just start with those. When you can post your factual proof and where you got it then maybe posters will gain a different opinion of you and what you post. But at this point you keep requesting and complaining about what Our-Street has posted yet you don't want do prove him wrong.
Our-Street was the direction I pointed you too yesterday, help in any way? If so what was most important?
I'm not yelling sorry if you took it that way. JMHO
You say put out info they promised? Like the audited financials?
Here's what I don't get...they have mentioned audited financials for 2 years what part of that promise and them not doing it, doesn't everybody get?
About every 6 months they put out some lame Pr or update about the audited financials just to keep everybody hanging on.
Wait a minute let me let me rephase that...they put out a lame audited finacial Pr every 6 month to pump up the stock so those in the know can dump into the hype. Correct me if I'm wrong every time they put the Pr out the next few days hype takes the stock up.
They have played this game and have picked this in small hits. Take 1 million shares that has been bought at lets say $0.024 at a cost of $24,000. Now sell into the hype at $0.037 for $37,000. That's a $13,000 hit. Do that many times and you gain big. This is how it was worked.
Some might say BS, I say to you when was the last time anybody made $13,000+ on this stock? Now times that by working the stock through Pr's, updates or adding something lame on the website.
I ask what was the price of the stock before they mentioned the IPO? Then what happened to the stock when it was announced? Did any of you's sell? I doubt it. But guess who probably sold? Gee another hit for them. And then what did the stock do it went down again. Time for them to buy. Did you buy no your so deep in stocks and afraid to buy. But again they did and it was when it was low. Stand back 2-3 months and something new will come out.
Again read my first post on this site that is what has happened!!!!
JMHO LOL
I tried to warn people. This was nothing but a play stock. But 98% of pinks are.
Earlier today somebody asked where is somebody. Well, like I said in one of my post yesterday how strange some posters have vanished.
While your over on RB you'll be surprised to see those same people have been around since back when. Smile
Nope I just went back to RB and typed in IDCN and got to that board and typed in 23720 and up it came.
Same board RB go to IDCN he starts somewhere around post
#23371. Follow the POSTER, that is the key. This is when I put 2 and 2 together and realized what was happening. He was a player who was burnt. Around post #23716 he started to spill some inside things. Post #23720 is the first I caught wind of Shane, AKA Shayne
I hope that helps. In the begining they put out more Pr's then Cater has pills!!! Let me know when your ready for the next one?
One last time you there Our-Street?
Our-Street you there?
The best part about other people posting when a Pr comes out is most people like to cut and past the Pr and put it on a board.
Go to Raging Bull to the ATCT board (2005) it starts around post...
#1496,1555,1627*,1726*, 1716*,1793,1847,1845,1841,1827,1823,1813,2087,2131,2112*,2200
And on and on and on. Then go to the BZTG board and you'll be able to pick up all Pr's through that board. You'll see when Sutida started the begining of Asia etc. etc.
This is followed all the way back to early 2000. As I've stated before this is from a certain person I've followed throughout the years.
Nope just can't do it. I can post right on here where to go. This way everybody can see the begining. Of course some will say it has nothing to do with anything but I've followed this from way back. Do you want me to put it on the board?
Sorry I will NOT email anybody directly.
In your post # 13073 you asked if anybody has...copies of press releases from the past and, if you have it, proof that it did not happen.
I can point you in the right direction. It will be from the VERY begining. do you want them?
Our-Street are you there?
This is all JMHO…
Wow sure was a busy day. Gotta love those who are still positive. What's funny is how the one person who some think is Shayne (I'm not saying he is) comes out and says...
I believe someone was purposely put on this board to temporarily kill the stock price so insiders could buy it cheap before the HK listing.
Some believers will never give up!!!
Slo as to whether putting this in the iBox let me see if I can point out a few things. Some want verification by the company. To that I say, “did they answer yet?” No. Give them 48 hours and put the info in the iBox.
Now some are saying Our-Street has made all this up. IMHO the info he found about Shayne is in black and white. The Amerossi company and it being posted on the PR Web.com just how is Our-Street going to make up that site and the press release, click on the tab?
How about the next article and the looks of it being plagiarized by Shayne? Again I say how is this being faked by Our-Street when its on PR Web.com and he tabs the site and then tabs China.org (China Through A Lens) to show the 2 issues?
Do you think Our-Street went as far as to falsely put up the tab showing the Sec site and the suspended trading of Amerossi? Let alone the other Sec tabs showing the suspended issues?
If Our-Street was investigated previously by the SEC do you think he would be putting up false stuff about the Sec on any site?
I could go on and on with the other info Our-Street put up with tabs to verify. Gee…VERIFY isn’t that what everybody demanded him to do?
Mikey Butler well right there is Mikey Butlers email address why doesn’t somebody email him?
I guess everybody is gonna say all of that is a lie?
How about the KYC site and the talking with Shayne’s dad? I guess the KYC web site is made up also? There is the web site, somebody go on it and talk to the dad. It doesn’t look to difficult!!!
Now as to Yu Associates that’s easy, Our-Street put up the phone numbers so ANYONE can talk to him themselves. Gee. How come nobody has done that. Is it because it’s to easy?
And last but not least the IPO. To that I say everybody needs to go read info on a pump and dump scheme. I believe it was my first post.
You know what's funny is how some of the original followers are not here or speaking up. How about Retirementsoon wasn't he kicked off? Wasn't he a diehard believer but changed because he got screwed by the company? Loved to hear his story now.
You wanted proof and IMHO Our-Street gave it to you. As to the first comment of mine and the one poster who stated Our-Street did this to lower the price with some alerter motive. Well if that is the case then one would believe through Our-Street Shayne is trying another scam to PUMP and DUMP?
Okay
All of this is JMHO
Slojab will you be updating the iBox with the information that Our-Hero, I mean Our-Street found? I think it only fair to all old and new investors to know the TRUTH and FACTS about this company. You would be doing your Moderator job a disservice if you didn’t do the right thing and post the info he found with documentation!!!
Our-Street...did you come across a K. Ash?
Our-Street please understand I am not trying to take your thunder. I told them so in my first few post. You are my hero...bowing down, bowing down!!!
After reading all there is about Shayne how can one even care about anything else?
As I said on the 12th...
Our-Street...The key is Shaane, you have to go way way back through all the past BS and even to another site and you will see who and where the connection comes from. It's a tangled web of the other stocks I mentioned before. Shaane is the infamous person.
God I love every minute of this just got done with Shayne on to the next.
Gee did I say Shaane first? So I spelled it wrong but I did mention him long ago. I told you!!!
Slojab don't worry when the report comes out and censoring posters. I truly believe the censoring that has been on this board in the past is a crock of BS. 99% of past posts were mainly deleted by moderators who didn’t like the negative text about BZTG in the post.
When it comes out let posters express their opinions. If your thought/worry is going to censor then you might as well delete Our-Streets post as soon as it comes out!!!
Stick to deleting personal attacks etc. not just because someone post negative things about BZTG.
Moonamongus I appreciate your post. The next time you talk to Mr. Lee ask him what is or was his relationship with K. Ash? He knows him lets see what he has to say.
Also being he has been in this stock from the begining what has he to say with all of the previous BS PR's/Updates over the past 2+ years that have never panned out.
Interesting the info you found about the website and who made it. Kinda like what I said before...
Anybody can run a web site from their own PC. It's done every day by the 1000's.
Thanks
I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Hunt and peck and you'll see this person was one of the original players. He was shafted and started to spill the beans.
Gee did we forget prestige asia & knightsbridge? Why did this stock go overseas?
Ahhh never mind this was nothing but jibberish. Good luck.
Did you hear that? Listen. I just heard a pin drop.
Boy it got quite?
Here is your hint and the connection!!! A post from many moons ago...
oh chatter wasnt that you and knightsbridge serv.ltd.....
that i had to get certs.for.hmm thought so.tell them please tell the investors whats going on in all the prestige asia deals.oh to clarify shares that went to knightsbridge serv.ltd were for "SHANE" prestige asia.oh and are you the one that said we could not even do anything to prestige asia because they are not in the US thought so again.tell everyone on all prestige asia how deep it goes im sure they would like that.
Our-Street...The key is Shaane, you have to go way way back through all the past BS and even to another site and you will see who and where the connection comes from. It's a tangled web of the other stocks I mentioned before. Shaane is the infamous person.