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OT: Thank you Lil Jazz
Nice attempt to discredit me...you really look desperate now! What's the matter, having a hard time facing your failure in the "Green" close. Just what exactly is your agenda here?
I stand by my words from that day. To insist that someone go away simply because their predictions did not come to pass is not my way. He did not force any of us to listen; however, being hungry for information, many did...but it was still their choice.
You on the other hand attempt to discredit people (with positive outlook toward Alcar) based on nothing but unsubstantiated conjecture. Give it up, not everyone here is going to be your little BN'ing sidekick...:)
Great "Group Think" between you two! If you try hard enough maybe you can prove to each other that you are the same person...?
WOW
Glad you're here Papashrine. Nice to hear a voice of reason.
The "doom" crowd has all but taken over here. I have a feeling it's simply the "boisterous minority". I know several people who hold shares and never even look at these boards. However, if I subscribed to the same methodology, I'd miss what good information surfaces via this forum from you and other true investors in Alcar.
Have a Great Day!
You got it brother! We'll have to get together one of these days when I'm driving through OKC! Maybe our MysteryMate could join us...?
And I yours! Keep fighting the good fight! We cannot let the negative voice completely take over here.
Actually if you try to look at everything regarding Alcar objectively here, nothing has actually changed other than the pps. Slow capitulation of shareholders as silence continues is the obvious root of that change. If shareholders had the conviction and fortitude to hold through this, price would not be tanking!
...and I have to agree. Never thought we'd be bid-whacked to .007. If I'd thought that would ever happen, I wouldn't have spent all my available funds @ the .02 range.
On an additional note, I have friends invested here who do not read the boards (might be the best way to go). We were prepared for the potential of a "painful" pps (simply a reality of this type of investment) and will hold through this time. Even if it takes years!
What are you basing this on??? Continuing your ridiculous theory that MysteryMate is iseemtobewrongalot?? I cannot and will not let this go! You are simply using and pushing this theory to dismiss a "positive" shareholder's credibility!
Once again:
iseem - Texas; mystery - Oklahoma
iseem - male; mystery - female (if you examine the writing styles, this is very apparent)
As usual you are not interested in facts only spreading doubt, negative conjecture, and attempting to discredit anyone with positive point of view (or who contributes anything of value which happens to be positive).
I for one appreciate that Mystery took the time to establish contact with someone who may prove to be an information asset to all here.
What have you done for this forum as of late? Other than fuel the angry mob!!? You've surrounded yourself with some real winners...
...YOU post nothing of value here!!! How about you "shut up" as you so rudely told MysteryMate.
I have not and will not give up on my decision to invest in Alcar; however, rude vermin like you and your buddies make this a very undesirable forum to read these days!
I don't always agree with everything Mystery has to say, but would never go as far as to tell her to "shut up". She has contributed much more here than you ever have "period!"(such as contacts from former employers).
And...as far as the "theory" that iseem and Mystery are on in the same...pure baseless conjecture!!!
I feel sorry for people like you!
I'll tell you what a funny statement is..."you referring to yourself as a true long". That's "laugh out loud" funny!!!
Here's the all the "True Longs"!!
...again sad! Continual baseless labeling of a poster who choses to remain positive about this situation. Use that same logic to make your investment decisions? As has been demonstrated here before there are no writing style similarities between MysteryMate (female) and iseemtobewrongalot (male) other than positive nature. However, MysteryMate is obviously working to find verifiable information. ...and MysteryMate's profile states "Grand Lake of the Cherokees" which is in Oklahoma. Iseem was on the Texas gulf coast! Ridiculous baseless theory!
azguy...
I for one greatly appreciate a voice of "positive" reason here. Truth is...none of us have anything solid to base our perspective on at this point. All depends on the resolve of the investor at the time of purchase; and it appears that many here are not willing to be patient and let this play out. I find it sad and irritating. That's precisely why this is the first time I've looked at this board today.
...keep up the good fight. This forum needs more "positive" viewpoints to tilt the scale back to center!!!!
Cheers!
OMG...that is some great advice!..."I didn't get rich in a couple months so think I'll file a complaint with the SEC". Imagine if everyone who ever incurred a loss in the market filed an SEC complaint! You need some indication of "fowl-play". No communication with shareholders is not pleasant. Especially watching the effects on PPS...but hardly justifies an SEC investigation (IMO)!!!
Exactly!
Right there with you Larry! You're right! Someone bought all the dumped shares today and I would bet they think they can get ours too!
Hold Strong Brother! They're not gettin' mine either!!!
Merry,
In reply to your post, I as well find these two posts only one day apart very interesting:
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***Day before the dump:***
Posted by: pinkeyepete
In reply to: None
Date:6/12/2007 12:11:11 PM
Post #27739 of 28041
Current news as of 1 hour ago.
The stock is in transition between transfer agents as of 6/6 according to the DTC. Which means the shareholders of record were released on that date, or around that date to the company. The fiduciary respondsibility of SAT has been completed finally with the release of the shareholders of record. IMO
It's been a long wait, and it would be nice to get a PR shortly on the divvy.
That's all I know so far, and will keep you posted if I find out anything else.
***Right after the dump:***
Posted by: pinkeyepete
In reply to: hmongvestor who wrote msg# 28006
Date:6/13/2007 5:13:23 PM
Post #28013 of 28040
Well good luck, but keep in mind the sec won't let the stock continue to trade long without a T/A. It's to bad things have played out in this manor, but it looks like the doc was running a scam, and the SAT investigation spooked him into running. The long term accumulation/distribution chart shows over 100 mil shares distributed before the big drop from .18. Sad but this could be the foot print that the doc sold his 68 mil shares into the market along time ago, and was worried the investigation would show his con job. I don't want to influence anyone into thinking this way. So this is my last post on the subject. It's been great visiting, and brain storming with you guys, and hope to see you in a real 1000% gainer very soon.
Pete
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I’ve followed Pete’s posts in the past as credible; however, this flip leaves me wondering. Thoughts?
...and Pete what exactly were your motivations with each of these posts? You had to know the second would set off a firestorm of hostility toward the company and Alex. Are you setting the stage for a lower "re-entry"? Or do you have something verifiable that you’d like to share?
Question to the board? Why would we simply take the viewpoint of a poster as "Fact" and begin acting on it. This to me makes no sense! Merry pointed out very well the "strangeness" of Pete's posts in message # 27994. I require facts not an anonymous post on a message board to rally hostile action against Alex...! Give me facts that can be verified!
On another note, someone bought all the dumped shares today...Hmmm? Traders hoping to catch a bottom play?? Longs accumulating on the cheap? I wonder?
For all who would like to participate, it would be interesting to know if anyone watching the board bought today (and if comfortable with disclosing, at what price level). If nobody here bought...then who? Results could be quite enlightening!!?
Cheers and GLTA!
Nice to reflect on words in past PRs. Thanks kazorchian for reminding us! I do think that all dates are off other than the pending August contract fulfillments. I plan to pick up a few more and then I think I'll stop watching daily. Most of these traders make me crazy...let's let this one play out!!!
...waiting for you to back up these statements...emotion based claims of doom serve no purpose. Yes some capitulated and sold today...seen it happen before...buyers wiped out with a big dump! Not the end of the world! Go back and read the last 10 PRs. Several hints were dropped along the way. The current PPS is simply the consequense of the continued silence from the company for reasons yet to be determined...I will wait this out...period!
exactly what are you basing this on???
MMs are regrouping after the big dump that took out the entire lineup at .016 and .015. I missed the entire show while at lunch...not a welcome return. "IMO" the MMs on bid will follow the askers back up when/if the dumpers are done. Panic sellers beget more selling. How long will it continue? Never expected this much capitulation...painful to watch, but they're not gettin' mine!!!
Merry...
I followed the trail back to this post on another board:
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Posted by: Zoom-Zoom-Away
In reply to: None
Date:6/13/2007 11:59:33 AM
Post #1015018 of 1015122
SEC just ruled on Naked Shorting- Good News!
It looks like they are finally(after 78 years) putting an end to the Grandfather clause and the market maker exception rule which allow for massive manipulation using Naked Shorting. I tried to listen to the Webcast, but it kept breaking up the whole time. Here is a post by a very knowledgable guy on the HSOA Yahoo message board( but he's also a top poster on Slicon Valley(FHM). Here is his post...
SEC DISCARDS EXEMPTIONS 4 GRANDFATHERED FTDs AND OPTIONS MMs (Not rated) 4 minutes ago well, the SEC discarded both the grandfather exemption and the options market maker exemption. that's very good.
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I'll look into this later as time allows.
Cheers!
Right On MysteryMate!!!
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See you at the table...lol!
...thanks for bringing this to our attention here. Looks like we'll know the details soon!
Oh my!
Read my post again! I never claimed to speak for all shareholders!!? ...BUT wanted to make it very clear that I nor anyone with steady resolve concerning Alcar could be a part of a personal vendetta against Alex!
And for someone who claims to own such a high stake in this company, I see no reasonable methods to your research. You mentioned our mysterymate...at least she is doing her homework here and providing useful information to this board. I have only seen useless speculation and discourse from you!!!
As with all here, I sincerely hope you find what you are looking for!
beerdup
res ipsa 100,
You invested in this company knowing the risks involved in a "disruptive" tech (so to speak). You also should have known that when the SEA factor was injected that the "unknown" factor was multiplied exponentially. You obviously chose to stay invested because of your belief in the tech and the company’s founder. Why the daily hand wringing? I have found my peace and fortitude to wait this out. You obviously have not yet attained that.
I wish you well, hope you find what you’re looking for...
Fair enough...
Look for people desperate for information and get some cash out of them. Free enterprise at work!
joenatural, fordisamerica, and res ipsa 100...
Concerning the conversation that started with post 27822 from joenatural:
What do you hope to prove with this tactic? Are you so desperate for quick wealth that you would stoop to tactics that would possibly have detrimental effects on Dr. Cavasin personally? Let me make this very clear!!! You do not speak for me or any shareholder concerned about a prosperous future for this company!!!! You should be ashamed of yourselves!
I'll give you that Merry...I just found it disappointing that the discussion would go there first. I understand that this would validate the connection between Peter Pascali and Alex; however, why is this your #1 concern here? Do you really think this is a case of mistaken identity? Isn’t that a reach since Alex’s history with Pyrogenesis so widely published? Do you really think that more than one Alex Cavasin worked for his company? Or that someone assumed his identity and work history to perpetrate a fraud? Just trying to figure out the motivation here.
If it makes everyone on this MB feel better about their investment, our mysterymate should ask Mr. Pascali upon her next opportunity to verify that the pictures on the website are in fact the Dr. Cavasin he is speaking of.
Cheers!
The direction of discussion here never ceases to amaze me. Someone manages to contact a former business associate of Dr. Cavasin with reassuring words of confidence in his character and the conversation on this MB is relegated to identifying him in a picture. Sad! Sad Indeed!!
Here's to better days...
Cheers!
ezxccsc...
Yes...(x 6.085)
...good thinking! If I sold my house and my car I could get...OMG...I am insane!!! Gotta lay off the High Life!
On a serious note, thanks for giving us some positive subject matter to focus on! Many here are holding on 'til the bitter end (good or bad)! That in itself says a multitude about the conviction of the remaining "Longs".
GLTA!!
Hi Chuck...
No selling here, just accumulation when money is available. Managed to get my cost per share basis down to .035 with several blocks @ .02 and below. Now almost at my LT goal. The continued silence is fine with me, I'll just keep on buying!!
Many may think I'm crazy to be shoveling money into this; however, I see much more upside than down in our future. IMO...Alex is preparing something big for us. No I have no way to prove this, but there is no definitive proof otherwise...so I'll keep buying!
Cheers!
beerdup
"Remember, friends don't let friends drink beer and buy stock"...lol
Sorry so late res ipsa 100...spent the day in the pool gettin' "beerdup"...lol. Bought a few yesterday and didn't have much need to watch today. Looks like I didn't miss much!
Sounds like you answered your own question. Somebody is just messing our heads (Jedi mind tricks!). I usually see these trades hit Alcar's T&S tape on high volume days generally during or at the end of several transactions occurring within a short period of time. IMO...they mean nothing as we have no way to know the origin.
Have a great night...!
3 @ .019; 1 @ .02 on bid side
2 @ .021; 1 @ .0215 on the ask
This is 15 min delayed data...hope it helps!
Cheers!
With all due respect...for each transaction to occur, a seller and buyer must be involved. 2.6M of each.
I would be in the "Buyer" camp today...!
Cheers!
It is a recurring phenomenon...those who sell tend to hang out here and join the negative collective to validate their "sell" decision. Until something concrete is revealed to sway my investment decision, I am in ‘till the end. GLTA!!
n00b...check your facts and Pete's posts. He scaled back Fri./Mon. but still holds a considerable position in Alcar!
Sentinal...I would agree that after close this doesn't mean anything; however, although I've notice this happening daily on many other otc securities, I have not noticed this mm activity on Alcar. Easy to dismiss, but interesting nonetheless. Simply an example of how closely we are all watching even the seemingly insignificant details.
I’m here for the long haul...but still watch every tick on a 3rd monitor on my desk.
Have a great night!
Agree wholeheartedly bitbybit! This silence simply allows us to accumulate and hopefully reach our goals. Alex is avoiding us for a reason and all details whether good or bad will be revealed in due time. My bet is on the "former"!
MysteryGirl...can I buy you a beer? Keep up the digging; your efforts are greatly appreciated here! OH...post pictures please...LOL.
Cheers!
beerdup