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Identical? One has a bar code, one has a QR code.....Plenty of other differences. And you are right, no idiots here. Everyone can see what’s goin on here. For the second time I think we agree.
As for your prediction on last years money gone forever. I don’t think so, but that’s my take. No facts, just my opinion, just like yours.
I still have our debate in February bookmarked so we can compare the PPS February 2020. I hope you are still around then!
Hey whitedeer. Good to see you posting. If you look close, both trademarks are on the CELZ kit. They are used in both procedures. Nice to see CELZ has an exclusive deal with the supplier that included the trademarks. Looks nice and is some more advertising:)
What’s proven is the CaverStem FemCelz box do exist. You keep posting it. The part number and eBay item is a different part number and likely a different price and cannot be “solid DD that CAN be provenL. So that does not prove anything sadly. But again, regardless of part numbers and prices, CELZ is sourcing kits and selling them to their providers. Pretty simple, really. Who cares what the price is or the part number.
Simple business plan, yes or no?
Thanks CF. We have been beaten half to death buddy. I am hearing some of the same stuff NSX posted. Lots happening behind the scenes IMHO. I think we hit the sweet spot with enough doctors to turn the tide sooner than later, this summer. I think we see interest growing around Antonini’s neck of the woods too. In the mean time, I add when I can and build that nest egg. As much as I hate the PPS, I have added a lot, so in the end, they really are gifts. All IMHO
It’s been well established by solid DD and phone calls. Just like the blog you used as a source. I can’t prove it to your degree of scrutiny, and to my knowledge CELZ has never formally announced it. That is why I said the debate is useless really. Right in the Q, it’s their current business model, selling kits. How much they source them for and how much they sell them for has only been gleaned from DD. But CELZ clearly makes a profit, and that will grow with each doctor.
Looking at who signed and when, it’s pretty easy to deduce that the last three Q’s of about $50,000 revs per quarter was just Gershman. Now add in NM, Rome and all the others and you can see how this works.
Again, CELZ has not lied about one thing that YOU can prove. Why would they? They are a business with everything filed properly. Pretty simple stuff JD.
Thanks gint. Again, I am not saying CELZ is a victim of NSS, but for anyone to deny its existence is misinformed. Big banks and hedge funds can, and do run rampant on the markets.
If I posted that, I would be LYING. I am sure he just made a mistake. It’s all so silly really.
The doctors who are becoming participating physicians can see the science, see the documentation and results CELZ has, understand whatever process there is to use the patented procedure by use of the properly sourced kit and treat patients legally and properly. Seeing more and more discovering the treatment is the proof in the pudding. Why any physicians would risk sourcing the wrong kit, doing the procedure outside the scope of the patent and risk their career is ludicrous.
The PROOF and FACTS that CELZ has the goods and awareness is quickly getting out, is Crystal Clear.
The PPS will find its level soon enough IMO.
Imagine what would happen when a whale discovers this and there is a run on shares!!!!!
I have moved my chips to the center of the table knowing that day I see coming.
Awesome DD as usual. Sooner or later we will hit the sweet number of physicians that everyone will understand what the longs have been saying for months. More and more doctors, more and more patients, and more and more revs. Then the debate over the kit, broken windows, addresses and all the white noise will be over.
I would hardly call it proof, but look at the trading today. 4-5 ask hits at the bell, even a decent size one, and they dropped the ASK from .0047 to .0045. Then a few small sells and they dropped the BID down to .004. One little 10K sell and everyone will be yelling .003's coming.....LOL So easy to scare the PPS down.
Learning the hard way as they grow.
Great example.
https://www.forbes.com/2007/02/02/naked-short-suit-overstock-biz-cx_lm_0202naked.html#7d4e276b763f
Overstock won the battle, changed the laws and forced one bank out of business. Patrick’s new crusade is a blockchain technology that would eliminate NSS.
I long for the day the markets trade by blockchain technology. Research tZero.
The only other alternative is to try to destroy the company by the other means we have discussed. Again, and I won’t bring it up again, but look at Overstock.com.
That’s the beauty of the AS. With a 3B AS and a 1B OS, no one can buy majority ownership and force a hostile takeover.
Still waiting............
100% disagree. There is not one shred of evidence that the company is a scam. Everything is patented, trademarked, sourced from a top supplier and delivered by licensed medical professionals. The BOD is full of professionals and scientist. This is not your normal OTC and anybody doing any DD knows it.
No LIE JD.
The bottom pic you keep showing is all the evidence I need to show that CaverStem and FemCelz do have a deal with RanFac and do source the kits for he doctors to use in the patented procedure. CELZ has an exclusive deal with them.
We can debate all day on whether CELZ sells them for $300 or $1600 or anywhere in between. But clearly they are procuring kits, with trademarked labels, and providing them to their participating providers.
Somewhere in there is a profit. Kits sold equal revs.
More doctors signing up monthly equals more revs monthly
Month after month after month.
There is no lie. There is no secret.
That will be great! It will prove my point even better. Thanks.
What does it matter to you. You have said it’s all one big lie LOLOL. Two months ago they were only buying scrubs. At least you moved on the kits.
Wrong part number, but hey, maybe CELZ will buy those and make a bigger profit margin ;)
Simple and exactly right yooperman. Folks can even sense the excitement in the videos some docs have posted up. They know the science, no the field and know the need. We can debate the PPS forever, but there is no doubt the company is in the right place at the right time and will succeed. The PPS will then correct.
Nice summary!!!
Smart trader. As I say all too often for some...... There is so much coming together, this wont stay down long. CELZ is beaten down to one knee and in the corner, but there will be a Rocky Balboa come back!!
Rrao…… If I can chime in, I still will defer to NSX. He can explain it far better than me. There are many reasons.
Some are purely financial for those who target, short and NSS a company. I will remind you to look up the story of Overstock.com.
The folks wanting to keep a company down will target a company and short it causing the stock price to plummet, and then cover their short far lower, or never if the company goes under. Negative chatter on the message boards or spurious articles is a common practice. Remember, it is far easier to scare folks into selling than it is to spur them into buying. Look at the trading here. Asks slaps rarely move the needle, but a series of 10,000 sells drops the bid like a rock. It’s all just for the money. Easy picking if you are big offshore hedge fund that can afford the fees.
The other big reason is to actually do harm to the company and attempt to run them out of business. That happens a few ways. One is damaging the PPS so the company looks bad and harms their appearance. For example, if CELZ continued it run last summer and was trading at .20, it will look like a good startup company getting on its feet. Even though not one business fact about CELZ has changed, what does it look like to the outside world now? It looks like a stinky pinky about to lose its QB status. How does that look? Mission accomplished.
The other way, and Overstock.com went through this, is when the PPS falls and the market share decreases, the company loses its ability to get traditional loans from the baking industry. They look too high risk, don’t meet certain standards, etc. This forces the company to dilute stock for cash, compounding the problem. For example, if CELZ needed $300,000 and we were trading at .03 and they needed to issue a note, how many shares would they have to dilute vs. needing $300,000 at trading at .003? The goal is to force the company into another ugly note and look bad and damage the company.
I ask this question all the time. Who would be against a company that is starting up offering a great new NON MED, NON SURGICAL fix to a common problem?
For the same reason NSX posted. We added new doctors, some very busy, but they were added too late in the Q for the revs to hit the books. We will see it in Q2, and it’s clear CELZ will keep adding doctors, globally, and patient awareness will expand as well. And, mix in FemCelz and StemSpine late 2019 or early 2020 and we will see each Q revs growing. It’s been painfully slow to get here, but CELZ is here. We also have a dedicated group swimming upstream, that should tell you something. $CELZ.
Love this post. Spot on. Q2 will be very nice and prove to many that “just selling kits” is a good business plan. Q3 will be rocking. And I can add for sub pennies, now ...... It’s a no brainer IMO
Hey Corruption Fighter! Not that you or the board would believe me, but the COO has replied to me twice. He cannot and will not discuss anything not issued in a PR, so what the use of asking me what he said? At least I know he read my email and took the time to reply. Other than letting him know how you feel and what your suggestions are, what do you want him to say? His hands are truly tied, legally speaking.
Glad to see you posting!
No doubt about it ttottip. Folks just don’t understand what is happening here.
Not to hikack the thread. Watching the doctors sign. Read between the lines.
I could be way off, but you could be spot on.
Like we already knew rrao, CELZ has participating doctors coming online in CA, TX, TN, OH.... and as logic told us, there is always reason to think in multiples. We saw two docs in CA just announced. If I was a betting man, I would say there will be more in CA, and soon. It’s a huge state. There could be multiple in TX, TN and OH too, who knows. Then we know 5 more contacted CELZ a month ago. How close are they to being announced? How many more have contacted CELZ.
If you watch social media enough you might notice that a lot of posts are being RT from European folks. That tells me interest is brewing in Europe, which is no surprise after the backing Antonini got. He is a big deal in Rome and in the field.
There are many many wheels in motion with CELZ. One day the pot will boil over and those who claim all this doctors are scam artists and the patients are actors will be out numbered.
When that happens I predict we will see some larger coverage either on social media or maybe even television coverage. Folks like new stuff :)
Why CELZ chooses to not issue press releases on all of this is perplexing to me too. It’s is not a good look in the OTC that thrives on constant news. But their quiet, every 4-6 updates approach doesn’t mean they are a scam company or incompetent. Looking at their resume’s and last success, I would say just the opposite.
I will continue to add when possible at this level. It’s just crystal clear to me the doctors are starting to see the science and the PPS will find its way soon enough. For me, it’s a marathon, not a sprint.
I agree with you on this Wolf. That could be the conversion rate when they get merged ;)
That is far more likely than your scenario!
Great buying today....
What’s interesting about the trading today........
Ihub shows 6.6M buys. 10.4M sells.....
A long bought the 6M at .0045 around 10:30 that shows as a sells.
We truly had over 12M buys and only 4M sells.
They killed the PPS on a series of sells after 1:00 and then a flurry of 10k sells after 2:45.
Lots of work to keep us down...
Really??? You are believing that
-Patel and Ichim patents are meaningless.
-The trademarks are meaningless.
-The Medistem success is meaningless.
-CMH is not a registered company.
-CMTH is not a legit company.
-CMTH has no office, making it a scam.
-There is no evidence that any procedures even work.
-Some stakeholders in the company are criminals.
-The Doctors are not licensed and paid to act as providers.
-There are no patients, only actors portraying a role.
-The trial is also fake and will never be issued.
Does ANY of this make sense?
Well said! We should be going bonkers. Soooo unknown. When that day comes, watch out.
Ha, see what I mean.
Training June 12 BFTunechi.
Funny, I saw 5 milly on the BID, and a MM moved down and sold them. Silly that it shows up red because it was below the ask.
Another answer, to jump on with NSX, is that Podiatrist also deal with Diabetes and its awful affects. One of those is ED. Makes perfect sense to me. The bottom line is that there are many many reason for ED, and many many doctors from Family doctors to surgeons deal with it.
This is the NON SURGICAL NON DRUG fix the medical field has been looking for.
We will see physicians from all fields sign on and become providers.
From the investor side, what does it matter who joins and buys the kits?
From the personal side I see it as further evidence that all fields of medicine are seeing the advantages of CaverStem ®, and as the investor side of me sees more revenue streams.
It’s a win / win