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Not now, the company needs to get both feet on the ground. and have atleast 2 plants up and running. Then do a reverse split of 1:10 not to decrease the number of shares but to increase the PPS price so when we move to the Big Board a higher PPS will be on A LOT of small cap mutual fund investors radar. We need to play this slow and smart. if we move to fast and the $$ is not there it will TANK hard.
JMO but here is what I think
1 - 2 years get 2 - 3 plants up and rolling
between years 2 - 3 perform a reverse stock split and uplist on the Big board.
OR
come out on the big board under a NEW STOCK SYMBOL and offer all the current shareholders of LLEG a chance to buy into the new company.
new stock ticker (Home Energy + LaidLaw Energy) = HELL . .
Energizing the Woody Biomass Market
The race to meet renewable energy targets has increased the demand for saw dust, shavings and wood chips.
By Rona Johnson
Woody biomass could be one of the fastest growing markets in the U.S. as competition for the resource heats up between pulp and paper mills and renewable energy plants.
About three years ago, William Perritt, who was reporting on wood fiber and lumber markets for RISI’s International Woodfiber Report and Crow’s Weekly Market Report, started making a case for tracking the wood biomass market. In October 2008, RISI’s Wood Biomass Market Report was started with Perritt as its executive editor.
“I kept saying ‘You know something, this is going to be the next big thing,’” Perritt says. “But I had no idea how big it would be, and I don’t think anybody did.”
Press releases announcing biomass power projects have been flooding reporters’ inboxes. These announcements range from the building of 25 to 100 megawatt plants in the U.S., to coal-fired power plants switching part or all of their facilities to burn biomass, to the construction of mega plants in the U.K. that will import wood chips from North America and other countries and produce in excess of 250 megawatts of electricity power.
“They just keep coming,” says Perritt, who has a section in his monthly newsletter that details new projects. “I figured in the first couple of moths that [section] would start to dwindle and I would have to figure out something else to fill that copy hole. But I think we had only one month where there was just one new project and updates on some others.”
This trend has led to greater competition for woody biomass and has caused a stir in the wood products industry with the consensus being that there are positive and negative impacts to the increased demand.
“With the so-called traditional industry players, there are reactions that could be described as both positive and negative,” Perritt said. “With a new energy plant or a new pellet mill in the neighborhood, it’s going to cause competitive factors for similar products.” They include wood products such as pulp wood delivered to pulp mills because biomass can compete on a level with that, as well as the lower-grade items such as particle board and medium density fiberboard.
On the other hand, the new demand creates a market for some wood waste that was not there before such as saw dust. “Who would have thought saw dust would turn into gold,” Perritt said. “The pulp mills were picking that stuff up just for the cost of delivery. The saw mill would call up and say ‘Hey guys come get it.’ It’s not that way anymore.”
For some lumber mills decimated by the collapsed housing market and the sheer drop off in construction, getting paid for materials such as wood chips, shavings and saw dust that weren’t valued in the past might be the key to survival.
The one sector of the wood products industry that could benefit the most from the nascent woody biomass market is the logging industry, which has been in the dumps, Perritt said.
The retraction in logging capacity is one of the main concerns for anyone who is buying wood on the open market, Perritt said. “Loggers are just disappearing but it’s very hard to quantify.” That’s because there are a lot of mom and pop operations, and some logging operations may still be operating but they’ve dropped crews.
“These biomass markets have given the loggers something to do, and the ones that have been able to invest in some equipment or who got ahead of this thing early on and bought chippers and grinders are doing a little bit better. If it can keep some of these loggers in business then that is a good thing for the whole industry.”
Preparing for the Demand
The U.S. biomass market is small compared with some European countries where bioenergy development is further along.
In the 27 European Union member states, bioenergy contributes only 3.7 percent of the total primary energy supply; however, in several European countries such as Finland and Sweden it contributes 20 percent and 16 percent respectively of the gross inland consumption, according to the European Biomass Industry Association.
That market is being closely monitored by Finland-based MHG Systems Ltd., which develops enterprise resource planning (ERP) systems to connect the bioenergy and forestry industries in Europe (see graphic on page 39). The ERP system uses Internet, real-time maps and satellite-based information to map out biomass and other resources, including information about where the biomass can be found, moisture content and if it was produced and harvested sustainably. The system is designed to improve a company’s biomass procurement and logistics operations and financial efficiency by tracking the biomass from the field to the bioenergy production facility.
The company currently does business in several countries, targeting companies in the energy, biofuels, electricity and heating, harvesting, saw milling, pellets, forest services and the forest industries, and is in the process of establishing a North American presence.
Although Finland and Sweden already consume large amounts of woody biomass, MGH believes there’s room for growth there, and in other parts of the world. In Finland for example, the market for small-scale utilization of forest biomass in single-family homes is not developed at all and there is a huge potential to develop that market particularly for pellets, according to Dominik Röser, a researcher at the International Forest Technology Finnish Forest Research Institute and Seppo Huurinainen, managing director of MGH.
Röser and Huurinainen see the potential for woody biomass markets in rural areas of Germany, especially for wood chips, and France where the market is not very developed. In Eastern Europe district heating systems that are mainly based on coal, oil and gas, could be easily retrofitted for biomass, they say. Large forest fires are causing problems in Spain and Portugal, which would provide excellent possibilities for woody biomass utilization in the future. “In particular, China has huge potential to increase both forest biomass and agrowastes for heating and power,” Huurinainen says. “Big investments are just about to start.”
Röser believes the U.S. and Canada hold the biggest potential for the development of biomass markets. “They have a need for heat and also the necessary resources,” he says. “Furthermore, pulping is increasingly moving to South America and Asia, which will create the need for a new market both in North America and Europe.”
Although the potential is there, Röser has some advice for the budding biomass industry. “The latest developments in the U.S. are very encouraging,” he says. “The potential is huge. But the industry has to market biomass properly since there are still so many misconceptions about burning wood—air pollution, sustainability, etc. Also an active dialog with environmental groups and researchers will be essential to move biomass forward.”
MHG offers its bioenergy ERP service in 13 languages and says new languages can be easily added. “MHG is in readiness to start doing business in North America right now,” Huurinainen says. “For easy start we have launched a risk-free Starter Package including business model development consultancy, training, software and hardware.”
For more information about MHG’s ERP systems check out its Web site at www.mhgsystems.com.
In order for the U.S. biomass market to fully develop, the proposed bioenergy plants have to be built and in operation. Until that happens, those who will be impacted, or could benefit, are watching and preparing.
“I went from being one of the people at RISI who quietly worked away at the pulp wood report and every now and then would start to squeak and whine about biomass, and now we’re very much in the spotlight,” Perritt says. “It’s just amazing what’s happening in the industry. It’s a big buzz right now and it’s going to fade back, but what the heck, it’s kind of nice to be part of something like this.“ BIO
http://www.biomassmagazine.com/article.jsp?article_id=3302&q=&page=all
All JV will be 50/50. I would not be woried at this time. HOWEVER, if the O/S gets within 50million of 3billion A/S and there is no income then we have to worry about a secondary offering that will CRUSH the PPS
AMEN to that . . . . I hope you all read Investool's post 3 times and learn from it.
I bought more today. If MBB needs to sell I will buy knowing the future is going to be bright. THE FUTURE not tomorrow or next week, but next year and beyond.
back in the 000's the company was dumping shares to raise MONEY. Now the company is not releasing any shares to anyone. This is why you can not get filled so fast
Lets just hope that is true
I think this was last year 2008 4/2/2008 – HH Capital Advisors LLC? HH Capital dropped out of there financing deal with LLEG. With the economy in the toilet they pulled the plug and MBB had to go and close the JV to get funding.
I want to know this one from the list:
(9) Construction schedule, including start date and scheduled completion date; and
Useless PR after PR does not help a company it only helps the PPS. In the log run it will pay out. I was in the same boat last year. Just hold tight and forget about LLEG stock price.
If you are that worried you might have to much invested in a pink sheet stock.
Good Luck
You guys sound like a bunch of crying school girls . . . I bet this time next year you will be crying that you did not buy more at this level.
See post #54177 and you will see what we see :)
see previous post
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=42818810
Volume is an indication of how people feel about a stock. You need to look at the last 3months of any stock and see what the average volume is on any trading day. From here you can get a baseline as to what the normal volume level is.
For example. . . If you know a stock trades about 30,000,000 shares average over the past 3 months. You will know that trading days of 3,000,000 shares indicate no conviction positively or negatively. BUT if you have a volume spike of 100,000,000 negative or positive it indicates how most people feel about a stock.
another volume indicator . . .
If a stock is moving up and up on above average volume say 50,000,000 you know people are buying. THEN in one day you might get a spike up in volume to 100,000,000 or 150,000,000 then immediately pull back hard. This is called a blow off TOP. In this situation it indicates that the top is in and the stock will need to settle down and form a new base before moving up..... LOOK at the LLEG chart we just had one, and we are forming our new base now at .0028 . . . buy more LLEG before the next run :)
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GO BUY LLEG,
You guys on this board are the best with all your DD and Speculation. this is the best board. Good luck and have a great THANKSGIVING
You guys on this board are the best with all your DD and Speculation. this is the best board. Good luck and have a great THANKSGIVING
A RothIRA is an account that you place POST taxes money for retirement. there are restrictions, like you can put in a max of $5,000 per year, and you have to have a reason to withdraw the money before you turn 59 1/2. But they do allow you to withdraw money that you contributed, not your gains after a little time.
I have my Roth with Bank Of America. but any bank will have it.
if you bought at .0007 and still do not know what to do then maybe pennystocks are not for you. but LLEG IMO will become a utility company and will someday get sold to a larger utility company or will start paying dividends.
So you have to go back to my ending remarks on my last post Are you a trader or an investor? A trader will sell on the PR news and hope the stock comes down BUT an investor will buy on the PR news hoping to make more money in years to come.
Only you can decide when to buy and sell. i am just some guy behind the curtin.
Rule #1: BUY what you can afford to lose. we never know where any stock trading in the PINK sheets will be in 1 year from now. LLEG could be trading at .0001.
Rule #2: Open a RothIRA and buy LLEG and keep all the profits TAX FREE. Maximum $5,000 per year. Open your RothIRA before the end of the year and put $5,000 in it. In January add another $5,000. . . LLEG closes on the Permits, plants are open and you will retire EARLY
Happy Trading or Investing. . . whichever one you are.
sent you an e-mail... maybe if LLEG hits $1 I will buy an IHUB account to reply to PMs . .lol
My theory is: I borrow at 6% and setup a payment plan to pay it back over 5 years. As long as I can make 6 - 10% on my money each year it will be worth it. Plus I am in my mid 30's so I have time to pay it back.
I DO NOT RECOMMEND ANYONE DO THIS.
I would like this stock to stay where it is, or lower...JMO I am going to start adding every other week starting next Monday. We need to keep the price down so I can fill up :))))
I took an advance on my 401K. I know I will pay it back soon (Maybe it was a stupid thing to do, but if it pays out it is like free shares once I pay it back). . . . I have a lot of conviction in LLEG and MBB.
Excellent - we know the float is getting smaller and smaller.
I hope those programs are working out good for you :)
Anyone call the TA to see if MBB is flooding the O/S
If we have that much conviction take a 2nd or 3rd mortgage and buy LLEG. you can easily repay the load nack within one year.
MBB needs to prove he can get Berlin done. I think he is doing a good job and he will get the permit in and complete. Then it is up to the state.
But until we get the permit submitted we all have our doubts.
Berlin is KEY . . . MBB needs to prove himself to his investors that he can close on a deal. All the ducks are lined up for Berlin. We have a state who has a LAW stating 25% renewable by 2025, A town now on our side. A JV to help support costs.
If we cant close Berlin it showes LLEG can not get the job done.
Berlin is Key... for now. Once we get 2 - 3 other plants up and running then Berlin will be a little less important. But right now all eyes are on Berlin.
do you guys notice how quiet the board is. No John or other bashers stating BERLIN will never get complete.... Hmmmm
Strange
Picked some up at .0024 :)
Please sell is you can not handle this ride. LLEG should be only a part of your entire investment. If you can not sleep at night then that means you own to much LLEG and you should move your money.
i have a buy in at .002 - want out ! ! sell me your shares :)
I think we are all learning including the people at the top. just hold on, it will be well worth it.
Were you here last year at this time?
the reason I ask is because I was in the same spot you guys were. But last year it was getting the Berlin land deal done. At first MBB came in July08 and said should be complete in the month of August. Then in August MBB stated only 30 more days. So I waited and waited and got very upset as September, October and November came and went. I sold off 50% of my position.
THEN the news came that the deal was DONE DONE DONE in December.
The moral of the story is it will take time and even MBB does not know when,. but IT WILL GET DONE DONE DONE.
Matt, I sent you an e-mail
The state of Wisconsin like woody biomass :)
After three years of project planning and evaluation, Xcel Energy has been given the green light to convert what was once solely a coal-fired power plant into the largest 100 percent woody biomass-fired power plant in the Midwest...
.......The Public Service Commission of Wisconsin granted project approval beginning in November, about eight months after Xcel submitted its application. The power utility will now convert the last of the three boilers at its Bay Front Power Plant in Ashton, Wis., to utilize a biomass gasification technology.....
http://www.biomassmagazine.com/article.jsp?article_id=3224
Yes they both filled
E-Trade = 10:07:36 12000 0.0029 - OTCEQ_NBB
Bank Of America = 09:58:51 50000 0.003 + OTCEQ_NBB
It's funny, I have 2 orders in for friends at .003 one is for 12,000 shares and one is for 50,000 shares and it is not getting filled.
Matt, can you e-mail me some of those pictures? I would like to add as a wallpaper.
See post #55581 on computer tool
PSNH - is the utility company in NH that is buying our power
CPD - is Clean energy out competitor in Berlin
PUC - is the NH committee looking into CPDs claim into why PSNH signed with LLEG and refuses to sign with CPD
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Did everyone download this tool yet? I have a CD-ROM drop me a PM or e-mail me and I will send you one on Monday.
could be you crooner ;)