a great one to put to memory........I have pulled that out out of my P brain many times....always remember the last part

I think they are on the train I been hearing for sometime

Now there you go saying things that are not true........Lowman did let people know that bad things were coming to Raj/Joe&Co. and in his opinion it was a good time to get out....I was on the way out the door with my dad being right at deaths door and I felt it , more important to head to his home, an 8 hour drive, rather than mess with Raj/Joe&Co------I thought a lot of Lowman, did he pump the stock --- I reckon.....did he give heads up on bad things---he sure did.......IMO---you really should not say bad things about good people when you really have no idea about what you are talking about......by the way, you go research what Lowman posted and you will find that he told people how he invested and how he got out-----when he got out he got out slowly so as not to hurt folks or the play.....I made my choice against getting out or being with my dad----the stock was certainly on the way down.....don't gamble with more than you can afford to loose-----this Penney stuff was no more than a toy to play with, I made some and I lost some-----I may have mentioned loosing but certainly never blamed no one but me-----the problem with Raj/Joe&Co, IMO they lied their rear ends off to investors-----actually you speaking bad of Lowman just shows your character......I thought better of you

thanks for your comments

Yep, Lowman was a sharp cookie, too bad he passed at such a young age. Did you ever meet him? He put together a group meeting in Fla. back years ago, quite a few of investors got together for a weekend.... anyway he was an interesting person,,,,, he made a fair amount of money but had a honest side....

I don't mind, sort of nice being in the dream world all by myself.....have you read all those fancy pr's they put out over the years? now they are the DREAM WORLD, their failures make them the world of reality. I wish ole Raj would do like he did years ago----do a forward split, pump the devil out of this, tell investors all sorts of stuff-----I mean if you read his past pr's you know how good he is, I bet he could come up with a plan to solve everything at the southern boarder----I mean just think for a minute, ole Raj announces the rigs have finally arrived and Mexico is allowing him to drill in Mexico if he hires the folks from down south, he agrees and promises to also build a housing manufacturing facility and employ those southern folks to build those houses and then doggone if there ain't natural gas just west of there, just waiting for ole Raj, but he can't go west until he removes all that Uranium 1st, then Mexico wants him to build a refinery, not just any refinery , but a big, gigantic refinery like the world has never know, then due to climate changes a nice breeze is blowning across Mexico and ole Raj realizes that wind turbines could change everything & he & NAGP just saved the world from Al's climate world destruction........OH!! I lost track, where is Raj/Joe&Co. anyway-----OH That's right they are still on vacation somewhere on the investors dime-----they better hurry up and come up with another plan------that money won't last forever----I am in favor of another forward split----tooo bad ole Lowman is not with us any more.....

If you go back to the early times with these people and read their pr's and the the lawsuits and such, IMO most of the negative stuff that hit them was mostly self inflicted. The failure in oil was their fault, they just didn't step up, the gas stuff, likewise, the Native American housing manufacturing, likewise and so on & on. If you go way back and read all the put out one can only ask how they screwed up so bad. Anyone of those projects would have made them and all of us a boat load of money....Now let's be honest if they failed over and over and over again, time after time, there is not much reason to believe in them. I would give whatever to be totally wrong----but past failures do not say much for future success.....but, who knows......it would not be the 1st time a really long shot came through-----Nice to keep the board alive.

I like this....

Back some years ago a lady & I were talking and she had been going through rough times for quite some times and her patience was all but gone. She spoke of asking God for help and seemed as if He was not listening----I ask Brenda if she prayed for patience and she said for all the good it did, poor thing was right at her witts end-----I explained that God was listening and was answering her prayer, she was getting exactly what she prayed for-----pray for God to give us patience and we get trials which teach patience, according to James....I suggested she pray for strength and courage to get through the hard times........OH YES!!!! It seemed to work or at least her attitude was certainly different.

Now I have to be honest, normally when I tell folks this they laugh at me, and like=="YA! RIGHT"....BUT---think on it, when things just don't go right and the pressures are getting to you----strength and courage enable us to fight and overcome, patience only enable us to cope and change nothing....Now what I often tell those who find humor in my thinking, "Not my thinking, I didn't write it, blame James, but at the same time try it and see if it works." There are many, many places in Scripture where we are told to "call upon Me in you time of trouble"----or similar verses----often my problem I try to carry it all, and fail to call upon God----result is I normally screw it all up

I have posted before that God likes us to spend our day with Him-----Many time in my work shop when my projects go sour I ask for help....one such example....I had a piece of wood, they call it "punky", meaning it is in the rotting stage---I took and made a vacuum thing, purchased a vacuum pump and put in there a solution of mineral spirits & poly, then hooked up the vacuum pump to pull the solution into the rotting wood and hopefully stabilize it......then went through the drying process then put it on the lathe to cut down to make a friend a Peppermill , I had it all drawn out----but everything I touched turn south, it just kept falling apart and I was preparing to toss it in the trash, I stepped back from my lathe and talked with God in full detail of the "IF's-BUT"s-AND's-------I made one last attempt at turning and I might say constantly speaking with God-----This Peppermill is one of the best pieces I have overturned out-----that experience has offered me lots of opportunity to witness....that experience strengthened my faith.....although I fail I am constantly reminded that God wants me to share my day with Him.....OH if I may speak highly of God's hand work---the young lady that this Peppermill was made for, has it in a safe place and only for show..... I only do fair work but on those pieces that I have to ask God for help, they always turn out better..........One last point, if this works in the work shop just think what it will do in your life-----most of the time we go through the day on our own----but when I remember to take God along, those days are my best days.------

NAW!!! Continue to post, I like the board showing some life....I am or try to be considerate of another's thoughts and I expect the same in return. Now Raj/Joe&Co sort of took me to the cleaners--so to speak--I could not have learned what they taught me in school, it is called lessons from the "school of hard knocks".........I try, but I just can't believe anything good will ever come from these turkeys, but at the same time would be a joyous occasion if Raj/Joe&Co did as the said they were going to do and for years now there has not been any sign of them stepping up to the plate and doing what they claimed they were going to do......now that's just me and my thoughts, but, PLEASE continue to post , I find it fun to keep this show on the road....... Go back over the years and read the stuff they pr'd, what they said was happening and going to happen----once a person does this they can understand the negative side....But hey, bring on the good stuff, I would not be unhappy getting back just 10% of my investment

thanks....and yes dad was a very wise ole man, I once had a man tell me that my dad was the only man he knew that when he shook his hand, he knew my dad was a Christian. Even now at 75 I often think of Christians teachings my mom & dad offered me over the years. Shame it took years and years and years for stuff to sink in......they were truly good folks

God Bless

You made me go look up that word I never heard before----prosopolespsia----

Seeking a refuge for my soul----where could I go but to the Lord

TOOOOO Early in the morning for this......

This is interesting.....I think -- and when I get to thinking I get myself into trouble---but, but, but I think we need to be careful with how we interpret these verses, actually, IMO, to clearly understand we need to start at verse 21, not 24. Paul teaches we are saved by faith unto good works, study this and I can understand that James is saying the same thing in a different way. Works will save no one. Notice Abraham believed God----that is faith, then Abraham trusted God, remember when his son ask about the sacrifice, Abraham told him God would provide---that is faith, Rehab knew of God and things that were done by God----she believed God could do---Faith.....I think James is saying you can't have faith with out works. Today there are folks have have lots of good works but lack faith and there are folks who claim to have faith, yet fall short because they do no good works....

I am not being argumentative here, just trying to clear these passages up to someone who may not understand and think as long as I do good I am safe. Now I am 75 now so when I speak of my dad I am going back a lot of years, but years ago he told me to understand a verse or 2 in Scripture one must read what comes before and then what comes after, often the before and after verses change the meaning or understanding of a specific verse or 2.

Thanks for opening up for discussion, always appreciate post which get me to thinking. I think your thoughts are the same as mine, considering your past post, but maybe a non-believer or a new believer might not understand as one who has been at this for sometime....

God Bless

Anyone remember Petro-Flo? I was just killing time before running out and pulled out my notebook on NAGP?NAEG/NVMG-----Just for the heck of it I breezed over some of those old post, man --made me want to go out and buy NAGP. They really wrote some good stuff, this company may have konked out, but boy!!! they could write some real promising stuff, I mean --got to give the devil his dues.....these pr's from way back in 2006 thru the collapse, they really wrote some good stuff....OH WELL---fun taking a moment or 2 and walking down memory lane. All the opportunities this company had, if they had just scored on "ONE" just one 1 of them, we would be very well off today. I forgot about the refinery & the super Highway thing........nice trip down memory street-----amusing, made me smile, doggone they were really good at what they did, I am not saying the con'd anyone, I am just saying they were really good at how they made a pot full of money----for themselves

and that is why I keep hanging around-----you guys know stuff, I only knew gas. There is hope for folks like me who in younger years didn't want to learn and know at 75 want to know stuff....Old Dogs and new tricks, children and Watermelon Wine

I don't know if it holds true today or not but back in the day those Pink tomatoes were really green---they would pick green tomatoes out the fields take them to the warehouse and gas them, the gas would turn them pink----sometimes when time was for was an important factor for shipment they would set the tractor/trailer up to gas them while being transported to the distributor......Jus a tad bit of tomato knowledge

Yo Steve----I had to share this one with my folks on fb....it is not just reading it, the thinking about it that catches......thanks

I have pics of the deer, every evening they are in the back yard, nothing on either side of my property & across the road other than woods, woods and more woods. Sometimes they are right up at the back deck. fun to watch them, the little ones play just like a couple puppies .......Blessings we don't have to pay for

I thank ya.....They trying to raise money, I tied raising about 20 tomato plants, they were really nice, then I thought tomorrow I will go out and get some of them really nice tomatoes ----that night the deer ate even last one....story always reminds me of Raj/Joe&Co.....lol

over the years I have heard and some from the company that they were drilling for oil, then they bought 2 oil drilling rigs, then they were into wind turbines, then in to housing manufacturing, then gas and then uranium , and I am sure I heard more, but there has been just so much my tiny little brain can't remember all the stuff I have heard or all the stuff they said they were into.

Now don't get me wrong, I would be bouncing off the wall if they did something---anything---but I'll not hold my breath----IMO---Raj/Joe&Co is just Raj/Joe&Co.....they don't have repair work to do, they have major re-construction.....But I am happy that we are still posting from time to time, let the show go on

Been in the New Year’s cheer I see, but here is wishing you a great & joyous 2019

My sister-n-law wrote a short story concerning my brother's battle with cancer, much was taken from his notes that he had kept through his ordeal---anyway, shortly before his death he wrote---"Why does God allow suffering"

His thoughts:
To get our attention---To develop righteousness and maturity in life--John 15 and 1&2 Timothy-prune our life's power to produce more fruit----to teach obedience---to teach us to trust Him---to bring continuity--To manifest Christ's life and character in us---to teach us to give thanks in everything----to prevent pride in our lives & broaden the ministry---so that we can share in the holiness of Christ---Teaches character and perseverance---reveals the evil nature of mankind---God allows sharing in the fellowship of His suffering

These words were from a man shortly before cancer took him away, HUMMM !!! just maybe rather than feel sorry for ourselves we should think on the Spiritual side, jus maybe it ain't Why Me, maybe it should be Why Not Me-----

There is a song----Look ever to Jesus He will carry you through-----sometimes it is very hard not to focus on the "ME"----

God Bless

Right back at ya, hope your Christmas is a merry one and hope the new year brings you nothing but good days

Some years ago a lady at my church gave this to me at Thanksgiving time, she thought it might come in handy in some presentations...It came (I think from Richmond paper) and was written by Ken Metz....anyway I thought with all the negative junk going around that maybe this could just maybe make us think a little------"Thanksgiving and the Christmas holidays are a time of thanks indeed. But sometimes we complain despite all the blessings that are laid before us. Here is a little tidbit the exemplifies what our daily complaints really mean to us:
I am thankful for the mess to clean up after a party----it means I have been surrounded by family and friends.
The taxes I pay---it means I am employed.
The cloths that fit a little to tight--- it means I have enough to eat.
My shadow who watches me work---it means I am out in the sunshine
The spot I find at the far end of the parking lot---it means I am capable of walking
All the complaining I hear about our government---it means we have freedom of speech
The lady behind me in church that sings off key---it means I can hear
The piles of dirty laundry and ironing---it means my loved ones are nearby
Weariness and aching muscles at the end of the day---it means I have been productive
A lawn that needs mowing, windows that need cleaning and gutter that need fixing---it means I have a home
My huge heating bill---it means I am warm
The alarm that goes off in the early morning hours---it means I am alive"

I sort of think he nailed it down pretty good, to me it is all in the attitude---how we choose to look at things-----now I will go practice on these some---God Bless

Sure is quite in here-----I'm gettin scared....What's dat noise?

G'Morn'g Rick.......In your post you said---"Whats keeping me from being what God wants me to be." Which got me to think how many times I have heard this and how many times I have heard folks say--"I have no idea what God wants me to be, How do I know?" Now suppose I or another fall into the last part of this, What does God want from me? Any of you ever think of this? Maybe sometimes folks try to complicate things tooooo much-----NOT YOU, Rick, LOL, I talking about those who question----I'll go by Scripture, Love God and Love your neighbor-----if we learn to do this everything else will fall into place. God does not call everyone to be another Moses or David or Gideon or one of the Bible heroes. I suppose a good starting place is to jus take a second of one's time and ask Jesus into your heart, then ask for help in loving God and our neighbors. Hey, learning to be kind, helpful, considerate, polite, humble and so forth is not an easy task and I dare say not a task to be taken on by one's own self. Sometime we just have to slow down a bit and smell the roses, see the positive and ignore the negative, learn to count the blessings we have.

What does God want me to be???? IDUNNO! Maybe just to be a good person.....if we really stop & think, this is a big order to fill and one that if successful could go a long way to change the world as we know it------Just look at what 11 faithful followers of Jesus did for the world----jus say'n

God Bless and have a great weekend-----If you go out and about today a really good time to start getting into practice of being a better person------every day I ask God to make me a better person today than I was yesterday--------talk about a big order to fill

DITTO----wonder if Raj/Joe&Co can come up with the stamp money to wish their investors a Joyous Holiday season-----probably not, nothing yet for Halloween, Thanksgiving, Hanukkah, but postage keeps going up......

good lesson & thoughts for the day

I think you or someone post sometime back concerning forgiving , when we do not forgive someone the only person we are hurting is ourselves...........something there to think on today

I suppose many of you have heard this before.....but for that 1 who has not or that one, like me, who don't remember much--------There was a little boy who after Sunday school told his mom that he knew God's 1st name....his mom played along asking him what God's 1st name was and the boy said ---"Andy". Well his mom being a bit confused ask how he knew this, the little boy said because in Sunday school they sang------And-he walks with me And-he talks with, And-he tells me I am His own.......Nice to know God on a 1st name basis-------then tell that would not bring a big ole smile on God's face, sorry Andy"s face

"Morn' ole man------enjoy your day

I have never gone through what you are speaking,,,,but, but, but for sometime have been thinking about
canceling also.....I'll not go into my thinking here, but a lot here I disapprove of, but then again that's jus me----ask and it will be given, seek & you will find, knock and it will be open

Our youngest son has been living with a woman for several years now, reckon close to 15-20, anyway my bride & I have both told him that he may not have gone through the marriage ceremony but as far as we are concerned he is married in the eyes of God.....We love & accept Val as a daughter-n-law....being real technical here, is it wrong? IDUNNO----they are committed to each other, they both share in the Christian faith. Some say OH NO!!!!! bad, bad, bad,----I accept & love them as they are, I'll not judge.....but the question does arise----if 2 people come together before God and accept each other and live together....are the ethnically husband & wife----Like I said---IDUNNO, I think or wonder if God looks it that way...The big expensive weddings, all the showers & partys are not Scripture founded....Great subject, though....OH any may disapprove of my thinking, my mom & dad being the Old type Methodist----I think it was Wesleyan Methodist----just shook their heads at me, but still loved me....lol---and that is a real job at times.

Speaking of good subjects.....in 1st Corint. we learn of the sexual immorality in the church-----5:5 deliver such a one to satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus----in order to get a grip on this we need to understand the people involved & they sexual immorality involved, which requires one to read what Paul was writing. Yet this does raise excellent questions for Bible Study.....ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED????? Some say noway, some say certainly. I'll not say for certain one way or the other, Jesus said clearly that what God put in His hands, no one can ever take away. A lot of Scripture to support thinking on either side of the discussion....Should I continue , most likely I would bore some to no end, some would get their blood pressure off the chart and probably tar & feathers could be in question and then maybe some may think it a good idea to send my flesh off to satan so my spirit may be saved......Like I said IDUNNO, but when I taught or spoke I passed on what I truly believe from way down deep inside-----if a person seeks the answer in Scripture, I mean really looks for the answer and cross reference Scripture, talks with God and prays for the answer, in God's time He will allow the Holy Spirit to visit you with the answer to your concerns and when the Holy Spirit teaches you, then that is what it is, nut's more---nutt'n less.....we are different folks, different personalities & we make up different parts of the body of Christ, so maybe different thinking is just another piece of the puzzle of the mysteries of God........No one is going to hurt my feelings one bit if they differ in thought-----I believe that sometimes different thoughts speak to different folks & also opens the door of thinking to unbelievers.......wow!! Talking about around the bar to get to the door-----God Bless and have a great day

Thanks.....I listened to a lot of that music while trailer/truck'n, when I was running late with a lot of time to makeup or no time to stop & running 2 log books ----I always listened to BlueGrass.....Now if you have serious driving to do and no time to mess around, turn on some BlueGrass, A Coke & a bag of Chips and trust me ----you'll getter done.....Now I am 75 and slowed down a tad bit, but we run to Vegas maybe 1 or twice a year and I still use the Coke & Chips trick and it the Bride is asleep I crank up some BleuGrass, We leave Va. and 1st motel stop is Flafstaff, Ariz, sometimes I get tired and we have to stop in Tx. or N.M.-----Few years ago we left San Diego and 1st rest stop was Sandston, Va......OH YA!!! Always have some good Country Gospel in there also------Driving down the road, Listening to Country Gospel one can really feel close to God.......Memories are so precious, they last way longer than life itself, may I suggest you make good memories because the bad ones also last longer than life----

God Bless -----Your actions today could be a memory, one way or the other, for friend or stranger

Gotta pick on someone, all in fun

sort of sounds like the guy from Motel 6-----we'll leave the light on----come on in----but then I doubt they can afford the electric bill to leave the light on, but then ole Raj said we would at least break even, and so strange, I ain't heard that train a com'n for a few weeks now----HUMMMM, reckon my train is waiting on the drill'n rig and reckon Trump made China mad and they won't ship our rig, but then the other day someone was blaming Foxwoodsman......maybe it is all his fault, has to be----man I really liked that guy too, who would have ever believed?

Thanks y'all for the post----if all else fails this board staying alive will be a real pain in the %$#^^* if Ole Raj tries something sneaky------but he wouldn't do that would he?-----NOPE, we got the Foxwoodsman at the door----he da man

TELL ME IT AIN'T SO JOE !!!!!!!!!!!!! You mean I am not going to break even????? I jus can't believe it....

I never feel sorry for me, but I do feel for those folks who settled out of court for a Boat Load of nothing. I don't remember exactly how much they invested, but I think there were some who really put a lot of money in with Raj/Joe & the gang then tried to regain something by taking them to court and settled for what we now have today. Got to give the devil his dues, this bunch was slick as snot on a door knob, they were really good at what they did.

School of Hard Knocks is the best education anyone will ever get------teaches us to count our blessings

Being thankful------Sometimes we have to look at where we are today and where we were yesterday----say a month ago, a year ago, 5 years ago--------so EZ to get caught up in the moment, the now

I have often spoken out concerning this very thing.....not giving thanks, just a simple thing----Thank You God for the helping hand"-----but when no thanks is given, no strength in faith happens.....If folks would just stop and remember that they ask God for help and that He delivered and then take 2 or 3 seconds to say thank you, they would increase their faith and really start growing in faith......Now about me, what really bugs me, I am very strong in my faith, I truly from experiences have no choice but to believe......yet I find my self much like what Paul writes in Romans----that what I am to do---I do not---then that what I am not to do---that I do-----now where I am personally, this really bugs me to no end....I really get ticked off at myself, but I am so glad that I have a forgiving God....He has way more patience with me than I have with others, but I am working on it.

We all know that at times I am 3 fries short of a Happy Meal.....so to prove the point, gather around all you young & old, skinny & plump, short & tall, while I explain a few Bible points that I doubt you have seen. Comes to Motorcycles. I could not find anything about Rick and His Harley, but I did locate the 1st motorcycle in Scripture------Moses's Triumph was heard in the hills, then around the time of the 10 Commandments --"All Isreael heard the roar of his Triumph. Now if some of you are a bit older you will remember that Plymouth had a model that was called FURY------I think this came in way back in time, or at least God had the original, It is reported that God drove Adam & Eve out of the garden in a Fury. We know that David was a man after God's heart, so he followed those who came before hi and David also must have had a Triumph as it was head through the land..

You folks have a good time preparing for your Thanksgiving day