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Hey bumpy,
Are you the same bumpy that was lecturing me just a few short months ago? If I recall you very strongly suggested that I:
1. move on, everyones is tired of me crying.
2. grow up, I knew what I got myself into.
3. give bkmp a chance, instead of bashing.
4. sell my shares at market.
etc...etc....
Kinda funny how a dose of pinksheet reality can change your perspective so radically, RIGHT bumpy????????
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There are only 2 possibilities that can be reached when studying the career of Winick:
1. He is incredibly incompetent.
2. He is a Con Man.
The good news is the SEC really took a black eye over the Madoff debacle, and they are closing down the phony shells such as bkmp at a record rate. Im convinced our money is gone forever, most realist would agree.
The major difference between Winick and the other Pink Sheet crooks is, Winick will put the dilution machine in overdrive at the first sign of any upward movement. Most of the other scammers will at least let the PPS rise until the masses are convinced its legit, and than turn on the dilution machine.
They are not worthless, they are rich, with OUR money.
Well said, Im sure our hero Beebe is scratching his head, while Carnes is laughing his ass off. That other con man that sold him the mine (name escapes me), is also laughing and counting his loot.
Im not a huge fan of IHUB but hats off to Matt, for seeing Beebe as the complete idiot he was, when he first joined IHUB.
DD, Back when I used to communicate with Winick, he seemed to promise big things just around the corner, that was almost 2 years ago. That is a common trait with Winick. S409 is one of my favorite guys, if we dont get movement thats not his prob, after all we have been at no bid forever. Lets hope this time we actually get some movement.
Thats only if you have the cert in paper form. If it just appears in your account, then its not even good for that.
What a load of B.S. There never was a legitimate corporation, only Beebe's illusions. What is left is a mountain of debt, deception and dilution. Im surprised he spent money to put out that PR, like we hadn't already figured it out....lol
Holding its own could be best defined as, hasnt yet R/S'd.
I hope everyone has a prosperous 2009, and somehow recoups their
losses from the scam that is PRGL.
Winick has set this up, somehow it will benefit him and not us, that is a CERTAINTY.......
Prayers and hopes are with you AUdad, you are a class guy that has stuck with us thru this mess.
The only industry left is fast food, once the Chineese figure out how to conquer that, you will be able to get a good melamine burger on any street corner.
Dec 8th is another fictional milestone, like we havent had enough
of that BS. Who is to say Winick didnt manufacture this Mayhem BS, it seems right up his alley to me.
Oh you must be hitting the exits at the first sign of a bid? Winick bailing out a shareholder is like George Bush winning a Nobel prize for economics. Not Gonna Happen.
Winick has followed his game plan, suck em in, drain them, disappear...
Why in the hell would anyone take on CEO of bkmp if there were absolutely NOTHING in it for them? That email makes me think now more than ever that Samai is Winick.
There are ways to at least pressure Mayhem, try to go public, I think photog and others have media contacts to put TFN in a negative light. Im still convinced that Winick and his stall tactics plus his fictional resignation has put us where we are today. Maybe its not feasible to go after him/them legally, but with a good 60 minutes type news story, at least we could expose these cock roaches.
So Winick should be absolved of his BS because we are left with nothing? I personally think not. Our interest, AS PR'D SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOLD LONG AGO. Any complaints IMO should be lodged against Winick, the other crooks followed the legal but unethical method.
I wonder if anyone has asked Samai where we go next? Soon bkmp will a bloated shell, with no assets.
DD, We go back aways, and I do respect you, where this thing goes from here is probably not good. In any case Im sure you are a great person.
It is pitiful that you would imply that, I guess you are trying to save face as one of the bkmp true believers.
Are you connected to Winick? The answer is the same.
They are useless, I stand by that.
You are hopeless and reaching, we got robbed, SW is the main culprit, you like to get wrapped around the axle on Mayhem. Winick f#cked us long b4 they had a chance.
If I posted that other than SW being a crook, please provide the link, otherwise I think you have lost your mind.
THE PROBLEM IS MAYHEM IS NOT DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL, WAKE UP FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.
Im REALLY wondering if/how you are connected to Winick, after rereading your post my conspiracy theories are in overdrive.
How do you purpose to do that? With useless CTRC complaints, im sure they, like the SEC have their hands full. Aside from that, what Mayhem has done, although unethical, is not illegal from what Ive read. Winick on the other hand is as dirty as they come, with a trail of BS PR's that proves it. DD, if you have a legit plan to stop Mayhem, im in 100 percent. Key word is legit, which involves more than lodging a complaint on a website.
Agreed, even if we cannot stop the nonsense at TFN, Winick should be held accountable for his part in this scam. Im sure knowing his record that he held onto a LARGE portion of the proceeds, and didnt funnel everything into TFN. His unaudited financial statements looked like they were put together by a 5th grader.
I agree 1000 percent, and Wyatt should get out of the advice business. As I recall he is not very good at it.
Im glad we are finally having a discussion about what to do as this facade comes unraveled. Im not willing to be fleeced without a fight, If we lose the fight, at least we tried.
Im certain after reading this thread for almost 3 years that comsoworld at a minimum has an association with Winick, there are those that have speculated that he is SW himself. I do remember a post where he at least implied he had voting shares. He was also a moderator at one time, that had himself voluntarily banned...hmmm why? Those that have been here awhile know what im talking about.
Speaking of emails, probably as many of you have on the yahoo email list, I received the Samai request to report to the CTRC. What is odd is that I never sent Samai an email. The contact I had with SW ended long before the fictional Samai. Food for thought. Winick is Samai IMO. I say we collectively put on a campaign to hold him accountable.
Hopefully from his tone he is under intense pressure from somewhere. Anyway its nice to hear how he really feels towards the average shareholder.
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Read Seabeewife's post 300360, even if they are gonna buy us out, which is unlikely, what would we each get? Im not gonna do the math im sure it would run into about 7 or 8 digits...i.e. 0000001. That assumes we still own 3 million, and that they are obligated to buy us out. The only good that can come from this, is to expose Winick for the cockroach he is.
I disagree, the communication line seems to be very clear, if you listen closely, the message is game over. The remaining question is the fate of our 3 million shares.
This facade is finally over, Im fairly sure the sheep (including myself), have lost it all. The majority will not take any action, and Winick has won again. Its really too bad, this was one of Winicks scams that everyone thought had a chance.
He has reached his limit, TFN is failing, that was the ONLY attraction to bkmp. I cant imagine anyone buying bkmp now, even the eternal optimists.