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Same here. There was no problem with the PYPR price loading but there was a bit of a "hic-up" when trying to get the streamer to load.
Nez
I agree with what you are saying. However, you put it in words which were far more effective than my efforts. I may be frustrated as I have seen this and continue to see this with some other, IMO, solid looking, real companys, which have very reputable customers, products, a long history and verifiable record. Yet there seem to be elements out there which have agendas geared toward making money from the same companys but by using methods which are opposite from the usual methods most newbies (including myself) have been exposed to for making money from stocks. I wasn't planning to hold this long but I am willing to pay the price to see what the reality of this stock is in the long run. So I'm going no where.
JMO,
Nez
4God,
Someone had to try and protect or teach the "Indians" how to deal with the highly honorable and compassionate people who had in earlier days, thought it was "commendable" to be taking their land, killing the food source and experimenting with bio-war and genocide (small pox Bob)against all "people of red complexion."
Seemed like an honorable pursuit.
Nez
4God,
I remember wanting to be a lawyer not a cowboy!!!
Nez
Just out of curiosity, does anyone remember what went on here over the weekend????
For a quick recap, the board was taken hostage and any newbies or other fresh money was denied any benefit of getting a view of the stock from the "regular seats."
One poster was on board ALL day, at least every 5 minutes, with a new post, all of which were basically about one maybe two boring subjects.
It was done by people who had some type of experience and maybe even was a script.
Any substantitive questions from new money was ignored and if there were any newbies checking this out this perspective, was blocked or at best, least seriously distorted. Anyone who is experienceing fear over this stock, keep in mind that there was a very expensive campaign, if not in money, at least in time, to keep the "real investors" from seeing the real pypr. Can anyone come up with a reason for expending such effort, especially in light of the recent drop?
These folks have been down this road before and have obviously, looking at yesterday's results, have done a credible job generating fear and they probably haven't even had to "pull out all the stops" as people here seem to be easy. They are facing a very creative and unique threat from the CEO and must do everything they can to counter the threat of "the shares will be covered on a first come, first serve basis."
JMHO,
Nez
Anyone ever consider the possibility that people are, in a way, "taking the board hostage", in order to keep any prospective investors from reading anything worth while about PYPR?
I know I find it quite boring to read useless conversations about useless subjects between the same people, to be a very poor place to find anything information about a stock, when trying to get the "feel" for a stock.
JMO,
Nez
With the exception of 3-4 posts, all of the person's posts (about 50-100) have been popping up about every five minutes,
ALL DAY LONGGGGGGGG!
Can we all say "Agenda?"
Amazing,
Nez
BigJohn,
Apparently, there must be something to your statement as one person seems to have spent their entire day posting here, in an overall negative manner.
One can only ask what is the thing driving such a person? I once read that "so-called" basher types are remunerated for the number of responses their posts inspire. If that is the case, there is one person who has been posting all day, without much of a break who has made some nice money today.
JMO,
Nez
TAKI,
Been worth the ride too! Patience can be a wonderful thing. I can't remember when I went into a weekend actually looking forward to the upcoming week.
Nez
OT
From another board and I feel this is very applicable to ATWT, JMO:
now that we have ditched some big sellers hopefully enough of us will hang in tight and not act like whores at .007+. i think she is capable of WAY more than that.
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TAKI,
I figure you have seen this on one of the other boards you seem to be in and by the way thanks for your posts which led me into "that one," with really good looking timing. I was reluctant until I read that you were coming to soom of the same conclusions I was about it. that did it for me so in I went!
Thanks TAKI,
Nez
BBB,
I am showing pretty much the same on ST -
Days Vol.: 20,878,943
Last Trade: 16:16 @ .0031 for 5000
Nez
laptoper,
New to the board but been here for a few days. My DD was pretty usual until this "divi." I agree with you 100% on your posts but to tell the truth, I never expected or even thought the divi idea was possible. It certianly seems to have many of the "negative elements's" heads spinning! I am willing to just sit and wait to see what comes next, buying on dips....if there are any worth the commission! It seems we have a ring side seat watching a very talented and creative CEO at work and as such we probably can't even conceive what he has up his sleeve next, although your idea, IMO, will cause the "negative elements" more of the same discomfort. IMO this may be a very new, unique and effective method of "defanging" the yellow teeth!
In for the ride and convinced it will be worth it one way or the other,
Nez
Scooter,
Way to step up to the plate and confirming, for me anyway, that there is in fact much going on!
Thanks for your efforts,
Nez
rvz,
I didn't sell out the day Mak PM'd me because I consider news to be "verifiable" and over the years I was working, I knew too many "disgruntled" employees to believe or take as "gospel" a post by someone I don't know and that didn't provide any proof to me when I did PM him as he said to.
I too believe Mak got caught up in rumors. Rumors that IMO were by design misleading. I don't know this for a fact and offer it only as a point of view.
JMO,
Nez
727,
If memory serves me correctly, that information was from a person who claimed to be friends with a guy who worked for the company and was spreading the information either before the "alleged" ATWT employee was "let go," or right after. The poster was the guy who said he "couldn't" post the information but would answer any PMs of inquiry. Can't be sure but the information is at least 3-4 weeks old.
JMO,
DC,
Looking at the trading, it sure seems like someone is interested in ATWT in spite of everything.
JMO but I for one am hanging in there. I just feel the whole ATWT concept is too good not to work and the effort to date that has gone into it is far from naught.
I'd rather be invested in a company which has a CEO that is more interested in business building related matters than he is in supplying anonymous, bipolar message boards with fodder.
JMO,
Nez
DC,
It was clear from your post you were just "venting" and you have every right to being an investor.
Your post which you refer to as being negative was not the kind I was referring to.
Nez
DC,
Just my opinion but we will make it. Your observations concerning other PKs seems to be right on. For me, I am keeping in mind all of the work that has gone into this company and also all of the damage that has been done by negative opinions which have been posted and need not have been.
I can't understand why someone choses to take the time to post negative comments if they are so uninterested in the company. Makes me wonder!
JMO,
Nez
Jim,
Everyone who has been here for as long as many of us, feel as bad as you do but also know they will feel worse after selling and then later saying DANG!! Many remember how glad they were when they held through the last bad spell we went through earlier in the year.... and that was long before the company had made the progress it has since then. I am pretty sure everyone had counted the company out many times but found later their fears were driven by those who live off of the fear of others. Anytime humans are involved with an undertaking, things almost never go exactly as they were intended.
JMO,
Nez
Seeker,
Good post. Well said.
Nez
Holding for a long time or just started posting on Nov. 27th?
JP,
JMO but seems to me that when something that is not required for a person to build a business such as this or any other public message board, a company or person/company has every right to use it to release information or not.
If the form of public information dissemination (public message boards) becomes a liability used by parties uninterested in the building of the company but rather to use it for their own means of influencing people who may not have time to do any other type of DD, then they may not wish to use it until ready.
From my point of view, it sure seems the boards have not been much of a help but have done more harm than good. I for one am glad to see Mr. Wiley make adjustments by not being concerned with a "wildcard" like public boards. In fact I also feel good that he has apparently recognized the negative effects of the boards and the wild mood swings which have been occuring on them and has now simply decided to focus on what is really important, building the company. Apparently the success of ATWT is not reliant on public message boards and that, IMO, is a good sign.
JMO,
Nez
rvz,
You make a point that is important to me - "Even real POS stocks make small runs now and then, and sometimes big runs."
The statement is what leads me to believe that if this were truly a POS stock, as you and many of us feel, it would act like one, like your statement says.....but it is not and that adds to my hope, ATWT is not acting like a "classic POS stock" in many ways. JMO,
Gotta step out for about an hour, TTYL,
Nez
Seeker,
Good post and I feel the same way.
Our culture has caused us to be ingrained with the "want it now" syndrome and it has probably done more damage for us than anything else. I think about what would have happened if the same attitude existed in the early stages of the growth of the US.
I seriously doubt we would even be a country now if giving up when things got rough was the prevailing attitude of all the people who built this country, from the early days of the Revolution to the opening of the West.
JMO,
Nez
rvz,
Of course I'm messin' with ya! I was just trying to lighten things up a bit and I know that I could make a post to you like that because I know you wouldn't take it for anythig else but joking around!
Nez
rvs,
I am not a psychiatric doctor or anything of the sort but I am getting worried about you. It is a known fact that stress, especially negative stress, can be a bad thing for one's health.
If this stock is causing you to have such rich thoughts, maybe you should cut your losses and go to one of the more transparent PKs which might inspire you to be a bit more positive! Are you having a bad day? LOL Don't worry, you are entitled.
JMO,
Nez
Steve,
Thanks for the update as well as the highly honorable way in which you have conducted yourself over the months I have been reading and benifiting from your ideas and attitude. Thanks and I appreciate it.
Keep up the good work and since we are all human, don't let the "off" days we "ALL" have once in awhile bother you.
Nez
TAKI,
I agree completely!
By the way, it seems everyday I check on a new investment I get in, there you are!
I hope this is a good thing!LOL
Nez
JMO,
I seem to see all of these companies that take off to the moon listed here.
Question; why don't people sell 1/2 or less of their holdings and then buy these companies before they blast off?
Answer: we have too much confidence in ATWT as many here know more about this company than the majority of other PKs, until the public awareness driven by things like mailing campaigns and other devices that are being utilized, we wait but not without hope. The only thing I see at risk here is "instant riches." Thomas Edison, the day he got his phone to work, didn't become a "millionaire" the next day.
If this was not true, then we would obviously buy into them IF we had the level of DD about other "stellar" companies that we have with ATWT. Problem is those other companies don't have the same level of available DD ATWT does.
Picking a company that runs is easy "after" it runs. The effect on people holding companies they believe in when they are told of these other "runners," only has negative effects on the investors here, so why do we post the runners "after" they run?
Just curious as I see nothing positive coming from reporting runs after they occur.
Can someone help me understand this type of posting?
TIA,
Nez
Thanks Pete,
That makes me feel even better as it gives more time for the information to get out there!
Thanks,
Nez
Folks,
If I remember correctly, (my memory is not great) ATWT started the "Mass Mailing" campaign. We all are aware of how slow the mail can be! The call center, if memory serves me correctly, will be starting to take calls/orders on the 5th of Dec.
IMO, we are in a period when many are becoming aware and investigating ATWTs product. I for one am looking forward to the opening of the call center to be the beginning of ATWTs next step up the ladder to achieving Mr. Wiley's vision and we will all benefit if we focus on the positive outlook and positive events which will inaugurate ATWTs and our rise!
Let's stay positive! As far as things like symbol changes and the like go, I check each morning the OTCBB Daily List. If an event is going to occur, by checking the list, you will know at least a day in advance. The list is updated at least one and most times, 2-3 times a day, so if you are conscientous about checking the list daily, there is no reason to get caught off gaurd and certainly no reason to panic or lead others astray. We all have invested too much patience to give up now!
" OTCBB Daily List:"
http://www.otcbb.com/dailylist/index_2006.htm
Just a matter of time, before really good things happen. Wiley is not panicking, he's just sticking to the program. Do we all have to be told that everyday? LOL
Again, JMO,
Nez
I just wanted to comment on the similarity in some
"symbols" to ATWT, found on this list. I check this site each day as I assume many others do.
http://www.pinksheets.com/marketactivity/getstats?action=daily_listing_symb_change
I am just wondering if the similarities to ATWT are causing any confusion?
Just a thought I wanted to throw out there. At the very least, some might find this site helpful in developing the habit of checking for possible changes to their investments.
Just trying come up with different ideas, as I can't understand how companies, with 1/2 the history, unverified contracts, no identified market or need for product, business associations of a lower caliber than those of ATWT's, or a fraction of the "fulfilled" CEO commitments ATWT has experienced are doing better than ATWT. How can companies less meticulously planned, built and brought to fruition perform so differently, albeit, for a short period, than ATWT?
I can only assume there are forces at work here, either individuals or groups who want this to happen.
I will continue, together with many others, to try and figure out what is the cause.
JMHO,FWIW because when we stop thinking, we get discouraged and will not find the solution or possibly let an excellent possibility pass us by.
Remember, the biggest blockbuster movies of our era, are what they are, many times, due to very believable "special effects." Are we witnessing some of the best "trading special effects" the market has yet seen?
JMO but I think we are. Let's keep the faith as we did good finding ATWT, a rare company.
Nez
Board,
I don't remember this being worded exactly like this and I realize it is "Old News" but FWIW -
Press Release Source: PRG Group Inc.
PRG Group Awarded Contract From ATWEC Technologies for National Call Center Support Services
Thursday November 16, 5:02 pm ET
PISCATAWAY, NJ--(MARKET WIRE)--Nov 16, 2006 -- PRG Group Inc. (Other OTC:PRGJ.PK - News), a publicly traded firm, has signed a contract with ATWEC Technologies, Inc. (Other OTC:ATWT.PK - News), also publicly traded, to provide call center and network services for ordering ATWEC's Kiddie Systems products.
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PRG Group will use New Wave Telecom's VoIP based call management services and its proprietary methodology to deliver call center and other product support services for ATWEC Technologies' Kiddie Systems products.
PRG Group CEO, Uma Pandey, states, "We feel proud to be participating in this revolutionary product rollout in the child safety market space."
PRG's call center is co-located with a New Jersey-based phone company, and is fully scalable and capable of handling millions of calls a day, and has bilingual staff to handle calls in both English and Spanish.
ATWEC's child safety products may be ordered as of December 15 by calling 1-866-543-9797. The call center will increase the availability of the audio-enhanced Kiddie Systems product line to areas without a master distributor. ATWEC has increased production capacity to meet the expected increase in demand.
According to Alex Wiley, President of ATWEC Technologies, "PRG Group was chosen because of its strong infrastructure and expertise in providing call center services. The fact that PRG has bilingual staff expertise and national presence was a crucial element in the decision."
About PRG Group Inc.:
PRG Group Inc. is a global provider of innovative consulting, technology, and outsourcing services. PRG delivers solutions that leverage the process knowledge of the company's consultants. Services include business process improvement, analytical services, ERP implementations, global rollouts, E-business solutions, upgrades, testing, as well as application management, and infrastructure support.
PRG currently partners with companies such as IBM, Microsoft, and Sun Microsystems to maximize the value transferred to customers. With over a decade of experience per consultant, PRG clients can become more competitive and cutting edge by utilizing their services. For more information go to the corporate Website at: www.prgsi.com.
Happy Thankgiving to all,
Nez and Family
JMHO,
but there has to be a point where a man will only be pushed so much.......
then he is forced to do something drastic. If pps goes to where it was in july (YL, year low) with all the good developments since, Wiley will be on a mission. He will have no choice.
JMO,
Nez
Well board,
we did our part and went for the ask.
Happy Holidays,
Nez
Right on!
Reality is a *itc* but only if you fight it!
JMO,
Nez
V,
IMO, I agree but the thing that worries me is the "artist" with their paint brush, in the last moments of the day, using small quantities of "green" paint. Again, IMO, that just sets the stage for false expectations the following day which leads to further frustration/pain. JMO,
Nez
folkie,
I have noticed the same and the ones that are up at all, are trading at volumes that are ridiculous and lead me, in my inexperienced opinion, to feel there is major engineering going on with those.
Happy Thanksgiving to all see, ya possibly wneds.,
Nez
V,
I can attest to the fact that as I have read the board over the months, you have been very consistant with your message. Sometimes people only hear what they want to hear.
JMO,
Nez