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Is SSM Industries, Inc still in the picture with Karig
Great, I hope Ben is still there and she has not just taken over for him.
If not, glad to see a new employee hired. Means future is looking bright.
Was that letter written by Ben or kim
Do you know when this was posted on Kraig's web site
Looks good will do some more DD.
Keep KBLB on your radar as DUPONT has been eyeing this company. Dupont had tried to make Spyder Silk years ago and failed.
Dupont has Kevlar and Kraigs Spider Silk would put a big dint in there Sales. They have been watching closely Kraigs progress as they have now suceeded.
COULD BE A HUGH BUYOUT
Blue Check out KBLB they have silk worms now producing spider silk and they are on the verge of a major commercialization deal.
The product will change the worlds silk industry and is a once in a life time stock at a great entry point.
More volume will increase the price, nibble away when it is down low.
KBLB WILL HAVE IT,S DAY
Another great application for spider silk.
Once this stock gets some exposure there is no telling how high it will go.
Just bought in yesterday made lots over on FNM* got out at $6.00.
Have been following this company for almost 3 years. It is very exciting as to all the possibilities and to where the share price will go once commercialization begins. Myself as well as others on this board believe it is now very close and could be Press Released any time.
Great time to buy!!
There was not a trade at .01 yesterday. It is an error with the chart on Ihub.
Dfeickeesq
I bought alot of your shares you just sold. I felt at this price it was a good entry point. Have been following this stock for 2 years and this may the year for some clarity on many issues.
Good luck and I hope we reach your price of .22 soon and you don't want to sell the remaining shares you have.
300 shares @40,250 = 12,0750,000
Again another hugh buy on FNMFO today. Two days of large buys 19 Mil yesterday and today 12 Mil totaling 31 MIllion in two buys WOW!!
after hours T trade on FNMFO 482 shares@ 39,250 TRADE VALUE 18,918,500
WOW A 19 Million DOLLAR BUY
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Why Does Ackman Think Fannie Mae Is A Ten Bagger?
Mar. 5, 2014 8:47 AM ET | 2 comments | About: FNMA, FMCC
Disclosure: I am long FNMA, FMCC. Mostly common stocks of each entity, a few preferred. (More...)
Summary
Fannie and Freddie common stock could be worth $30 to $45 per share.
The government's warrants could be worth more than the original bailout.
Many people believe the government will lose their legal battle.
On February 23rd, Bill Ackman, Pershing Square fund manager, said "he sees a huge upside on the [Fannie Mae (OTCQB:FNMA) and Freddie Mac (OTCQB:FMCC)] bet: the hedge-fund manager said he believes the common shares of the mortgage-finance giants could be worth more than 10 times their current value in several years."
How does Ackman get to this assumption?
Well, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac recently released their full year 2013 earnings reports. For the year, Fannie earned $84 billion and Freddie earned $49 billion. These record-breaking numbers make them two of the most profitable companies in the history of the world. They both acknowledge that a repeat performance any time soon is unlikely. However, using their full year figures, we might get a better understanding of what their earnings may be in 2014.
For the purposes of simplification, one might strip out the one-time items, such as the deferred tax assets, legal settlements, loan loss reversals, derivative gains, and other items that can fluctuate over time. For the purpose of a simple analysis, one might choose to look at net interest income, fee income, administrative expenses, and non-interest expense.
Here's a rough calculation of the Core EPS for each company. This is my best estimate of the recurring profits generated by the businesses.
What market cap does this give the companies?
You will notice that there are a combined 9 billion total diluted shares for both companies. At around $31 per share, the total market cap for the two companies combined is $279 billion. The Treasury's share of this total is 79.9%, or $222.9 billion, if the warrants are allowed to be executed by the courts. This is much more than the total amount received by the companies for their bailouts.
Part of Ackman's investment thesis is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac shareholders win their lawsuits against the government. This might mean that the 100% dividend sweep would be ruled un-Constitutional and the entire amount of the dividend sweep, almost $200 billion flows back into each company's balance sheet.
Will shareholders win their lawsuits?
Richard Epstein, of the Hoover Institution, recently provided an update on the subject of the 100% profit sweep instituted by the Treasury in August 2012.
The key inquiry is therefore into the government defenses against the three charges in the underlying law suits: wealth confiscation, the abuse of administrative authority under FHFA, and the breach of its fiduciary duty to Fannie and Freddie's private shareholders.
The government's task is not an enviable one, because the cozy deal between FHFA and Treasury looks like the worst form of self-dealing. Recall that both Edward DeMarco, then acting director of FHFA, and his key aid Mario Ugoletti both came to FHFA from Treasury. To remove any taint from the deal, the government has to show first that it exercised due diligence to see that the deal was fair to all parties, and, second, that, more critically, the deal viewed as a whole was in fact fair the private shareholders. The government has done nothing to satisfy either obligation.
Epstein goes on to speak about the grant of discovery in these cases.
This past week Judge Margaret Sweeney granted Cooper's motion, sweeping aside the government's objections that the claims were not "ripe" for review on the ground that "1) future profitability is unknown, and 2) both Fannie and Freddie are still in conservatorship." Those claims border on the frivolous, given that the government had to know something about its profitability before implementing the Third Amendment. Nor is it credible to assume that the conservatorship should go on forever after the advances have been repaid.
As Judge Sweeney noted, since this evidence "is solely in possession" of the government, discovery is required to equalize the balance, at which point all documents and discussions relating to Treasury's key decisions should become public record.
From this standpoint, it is clear that the 2012 amendment that created the 100% profit sweep was intended to destroy shareholder value. This information was non-public, but most importantly it was contrary to the stated and very public mission of the Conservatorship, which was to put the entities in a safe and solvent position. One might expect that additional unsavory details will emerge in the coming weeks, as the lawsuits proceed and additional discovery brings new details into the light.
RAFF again buying lots of shares for someone big.
FNMAS is gaping up premarket
Anyone getting the feeling we are going to finish Green with a Bullish hammer candle.
OBIT what site are you collecting that data. Can you get the trades on FNMAS form yesterday and today that are over a 500,000 share trade?
I have counted 7 orders of 500,000+ shares in FNMAS between yesterday and today
Yes I agree some is taking a REAL LARGE stake in Fnmas
Another large order on FNMAS 500,000@ $12.05 = 6.25 Million
Time 11:24
Looks like the Market Maker RAFF is accumulating for someone today
fnmas up pre market, be careful selling to for a swing trade today you may have to buy in higher
Yes there were several t-trades on FNMAS at close 500,000- 850,000 share buys
this is only one buy of many at end of day
850,000 shares at 12.05 = 10,252,000
someone big just bought in yesterday
noticed that ARCA has not been on the Bid or Ask yesterday and today
Fannie Mae will pay Treasury $7.2 billion in dividends in March 2014. With the March dividend payment, Fannie Mae will have paid a total of $121.1 billion in dividends to Treasury in comparison to $116.1 billion in draw requests since 2008. Dividend payments do not offset prior Treasury draws.
Fannie Mae Reports Comprehensive Income of $84.8 Billion for 2013 and $6.6 Billion for Fourth Quarter 2013
Fannie Mae Paid Treasury $82.5 Billion in Dividends in 2013
Posted on the Fairholme Funds web site a Motion for discovery with the FHFA.
It's going to get interesting.
Obiteridctum whats your take on the filing and the posting on their web site.
http://www.fairholmefunds.com/show_pdf.php?file=http://www.fairholmefunds.com/sites/default/files/PLAINTIFFS%E2%80%99%20MOTION%20FOR%20SUPPLEMENTATION%20OF%20THE.PDF#pagemode=bookmar
Anyone having troubles with Ihubs Level 2
I totally agree the buy order was filled throughout the day and posted at the end of day as a T trade. If some was dumping over 5 million shares today and over 2 million yesterday, the stock price would have droped big time both days.
Someone is with deep pockets is buying
Yeah
80 blocks of buys went through totalling 200,000 shares
someone large covering or accumulated in amounts of 2500 shares. Lots of blocks of 2400, & 100 together
What indication are you referring to.
Please share
Was the bailout treated as a loan or compensation for the senior perferred stock. That includeds a 10% annual dividend
My prediction
Close at high of day $3.20
I know you explained it but your logic is based on today's trade being a sell. It was clearly a buy.
Show me proof that it was a sell?
Maybe you need a better connection with your brokerage.
Yes he can and nice try.
Noticed that you are bashing hard lately what is your purpose.
Okay
Your logic is that today's trade was a sell.
If it was a buy you are wrong. Show me proof that you know it was a sell. I called my broker after the trade and he confirmed later that it was definitely a buy.
Then that would be a 600,000 loss
Does not make sense you are wrong. Today was definitely a buy no question.