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I find it funny how some of you will easily dismiss an email from the company as unverifiable evidence and should be just thrown out. Then when I say, "I have a feeling" that a PR will be out by Christmas, you want to hold steadfast to information held inside said email.
I'm not trying to point a finger at you in particular binks, but I can now see how we are going to argue about how if a PR is not out by this Friday, the company must have lied to us again.
Nice try but I don't want to take that bait. Not this time. LOL
Boca_Bobby
Looks like it took over 2 months to get final approval by the NFA. Just goes to show that there are plenty of reasons why we were waiting for a PR from XXIS and SPZI. It has been shared here many times that there was alot of "red tape" that needed attention before the flood gates could just be opened.
Most of us took that reasoning at face value while others did their own creative DD and came to believe that SPZI and/or XXIS was just a scam of some kind.
Now with the informatio n that has shown up on the XXIS board over the past week, IMO, everything seems to be coming together as prescribed. I admit it takes someone to look at the whole picture and not the daily dull drums of this message board.
I have a good feeling we may hear news before Christmas concerning XXIS and expect news from SPZI by my birthday (2/14). Wouldn't that be great! News on the holidays. LOL
Boca_Bobby
I believe his name is Dr. Feelgood.
Boca_Bobby
Can we get that parrot to wear a little Spooz T-shirt?
Be just as good as a PR!
Boca_Bobby
Wow. You really know your history of Microsoft, don't you.
NOT
Boca_Bobby
Now that's humor.
uh.... er.....um..... you did mean that post to be comical didn't you?
Boca_Bobby
Here's and interesting little bit of information. SPZI was ranked @ #47 as the "Most Posted Boards Today" with only 14 posts.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/most_post.asp
On the "Most Read Boards Today" we are also ranked @ # 48. But we have 718 people that have read the board!
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/most_read.asp
And we are also one of the "Top Boards" ranked @ #84 with a score of 671.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/top_boards.asp
On the "Break Out Boards" XXIS is ranked @ #35!
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/HotBoardsRelative.asp
IMO, it's just a matter of time before this powder keg just explodes! These #'s suggest that contrary to some here, many people are watching and waiting for a PPS movement or piece of info that will give them that last push over the top before they buy in. If the email is correct from Errol Stone and we get a PR next week, we may start the fuse!
I love the fact that we have about double the amount of readers on this board than we have bookmarks! All good signs IMO.
Boca_Bobby
Thanx T,
Let's hope we can get a few questions answered for the non-believers. Just have the correct share structure would be huge!
Boca_Bobby
IMO, that's what makes this a perfect opportunity. If you believe in what the products say they can do then this will off great rewards. If it cannot we all can claim the title of:
"Villiage Idiot"
For me it doesn't really matter much, many of my friends are still laughing that I still talk about the potential of Spooz! I wonder who will be laughing in 2010?
Boca_Bobby
Well I gotta admit it, these OT hours I'm working are paying off a little bit. I just picked up another 225,000 shares today! A few trades for profits and a little OT paycheck coming in tomorrow for a nice X-mas present to myself!
Maybe my buddy Traderfan can talk the PPS down some for an "ignorant" guy like me that is still hungry for more shares! Com'on Traderfan..... do your magic.....LOL
Only kidd'n my man...... But I might be in the market for more shares tomorrow as well!
Boca_Bobby
LOL.....
I figure it's Christmas time and all! hahahha
I'll attack again after the new year. LOL
Only kid'n
Boca_Bobby
You know Traderfan,
I think I owe you an apology. It has just accured to me that maybe I have been a little harsh with you. You may have not followed the history of SPZI as closely as others here that have disected each and every facet of this company. I know you have posted here in the past but then you seemed to have disappeared and then came back.
Anyone that bought this thing and hasn't keep as up to date as possible with everything that has gone on ove rthe past few months may be as upset as you are about the PPS. Beleive me, I would love for the PPS to just jump for you and everyone else. Things on this board were sure alot more fun when that was going on.
But I knew when I bought this company that I could expect to hold for long periods of time. I knew in my heart we would go up drastically and fall just as hard. After all, this is a penny stock. So when the day came that I decided to put a significant position in SPZI, I knew my money would be tied up at times for months on end if not even years. But it was a risk I felt was warranted.
You may have thought differently than I did. So I am truely sorry for comming across as hard headed as I have. I really do wish you all the best along with everyone else here on this board. IMO, we are just so close to the explosion so hang tough my friend, we'll get there.....
Boca_Bobby
I know this may be difficult for you so I'll go sloooooooowwwwwwwww.......... LOL
They is not an infinate # of shares out there. It is very finite in fact. I know you really want to say so much about dilution but facts are facts my friend.
IW has on several occassions point out the specific #'s as it concerns volume. You and many others dismissed this idea and even went so far as to scoff at such an idea about the massive accumulation that happene durring the last run up north in the PPS back in July.
I'm not going to do your dirty work. Look it up yourself and carefully examine the #'s concerning volume. It is very clear that durring that time people were accumulating shares of SPZI. Then the PPS went south. What happened to the volume? Was it equal or even better, exceeding the volu me we had when the price went up in the first place?
The answer is a resounding NO! So now you answer a question, if you dare. What happened to all the shares? If the supply is finite and we didn't exceed or equal the amount of shares durring the run up, what happened to all the shares?
I know, I know.... they just vanished right? And now they have reappeared for the 100 million shares you want to see traded before you can possibly believe there will be a rise in PPS. IMO, the people that bought those shares from March to July have held on tight to one of the most valuable assests they will own in the near future.
Facts are Facts my doubting Thomas friend. Beleive what you want but those volume #'s that you and your followers so easily dismissed so easily seemed to have come back full circle.
Do our own DD. None of what I say is intended in any way to be investing advice..........
Boca_Bobby
Traderfan,
I'm sorry but you can't have it both ways. Try to stay on one side of the street will ya.
When the PPS was going down on small vol ume you and many others told us the the "real" value of the stock was the PPS and volume told us nothing about the "real" value.
Now the PPS has been gradually going up on small volume and you say we need to look at the volume to know what the "real" value of SPZI.
We may be all "newbies" according to your sundry ideas about what investing is all about but at least we can pick a team to belong to. It seems to me that no matter what the PPS of SPZI does you will try to spin a web of negativity and call it "balance" or "reality."
All my opinion of course which to you doesn't mean a hill of beans and guess what..........
I'm OK with that!
Boca_Bobby
Careful now......
Your leaving yourself open for the wrath of Traderfan. You know the "only one" that has realistic forecasting skills. The rest of us are just..... uh.....er.... "ignorant" is what I think he said...... LOL
Good Grief Charlie Brown,
Boca_Bobby
PS> I would love if I'm wrong and your opinion in more in line! hahahaha
Jerseyboy,
You are correct for the reason for our difference in opinion. I simply stated a reason for my .02 value based on the events of the action with XXIS yesterday. After seeing the the 50:1 split of XXIS and then equating that to a .20/share of XXIS. I simply multiplied that price by the reported 120M shares that SPZI holds. I came up with the 24M figure on the books as an asset of SPZI. I simply added that figure to the approx. 6.7 milion market cap. Then I rembered that we still have a January launch to 3 brokerages to come. We also have 7% comming in from the use of SWARM by XXIS.
So I came up with a speculative PPS of .02! But some here just want to shoot down any idea that SPZI is worth anything more than .0001!
Opps, there I go again.... giving reason for my thougts..... how unoriginal of me..... I better just start to tear apart the posts of others........
Yaaaaaa,,,, that's much easier
Boca_Bobby
LOL.....
Thanks Annie, I needed that.....
Boca_Bobby
I guess I am also "ignorant" to the reason you would want to know any of my opinions about anything. We are obviously NEVER going to see eye to eye on things so why would you pretend to care about my reason I believe the PPS of SPZI should be around .02?
Anyone can speculate my friend. The big difference between you and I is that I give reason for my projections and you tend to just tear apart anything anyone says as pure lunacy. Yet you never give any original thoughts as to why you believe differently.
It seems you agenda and job is a little easier than anyone who has hope for the future of a bright future for SPZI or XXIS. And after this posting I'm sure you will tell us all how you really do want the PPS of SPZI to go up and you are really on or side but are just more "realistic" than the rest of us. It also seems pretty obvious that unless we join in on your negative outlook in some way, you and your followers will always dismiss what is said as way off base.
I will still stick with my beleif of SPZI being worth at least .02, especially when I see a company like FSLR with a PE ratio of 180! Speculation comes with many flavors my friend and what is good for the goose is plenty good for the gander!
I'm sure you will disagree with all of my statements. I wouldn't expect any less from you. But hey, I have big shoulders and don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon. So I guess we're both in this boat and have to deal with each other (unless I can kick you over board. LOL).
Have a great trading day my new friend,
Boca_Bobby
The last time I looked at FSLR they even had a PE ratio of 150! We can all look and find exactly what we want to find. IMO, your figures add up. Now I know this may be a bit premature but like MC has said, this can in no way be looked as a negative. The bottome line is we are real close to see the real share structure of XXIS and the real PPS as well.
This will proportionately relate to the PPS of SPZI and has to equal more than the $.0045 we have been trading at for the past few weeks.
Boca_Bobby
Good call Gbathat,
Funny thing is I was asking everyone I knew that was invested in Spooz if they knew what the ramifications of any of this information meant. To a man, they all looked so puzzled as to why I would even ask such a question. I guess some just can't see the forest through the trees!
All day I was crying out from the roof tops! SPZI is worth at least .02 right now! And we haven't even factored in the 7% of net profits going right to the bottom line of SPZI.
So my friend, we need to stay patient and IMO, if you have the means to pick up more shares keeping in mind your very own risk management strategy. It seems we are still not being noticed by the street but IMO, this will change drastically over the next 3 to 6 months.
The time has come finally for those who believe......
Boca_Bobby
Tony,
What's your take on TSSP? I have been watching for over a month now. Not sure about the share structure but they have a nice product and the whole solar sector is just booming lately. Yet this stock continues to fall. No news of any kind.
Your thoughts?
Boca_Bobby
Well there's another good sign for us. I am showing us ending @ .0049 and the bid has moved up to .005. The bollie's are getting tighter and shares seemed to have dried up.
I hope, I hope, I hope...... LOL
We all know what hope is good for.
My long term indicator is still pointing down with a slight curl up for a reversal starting to show it's head. But the mid to short term indicators are all looking good right now. All we need is a little volume to get this engine started, IMO.
Boca_Bobby
Careful there old friend...... LOL
Sounds like you might be saying we are going to go higher "soon." And we all know what "soon" means, right? But seriously, you can really see that the shares are really starting to dry up and all we need is the January launch to the "rumored" 3 brokerages and this thing starts to fly. IMO, we may have only a few more weeks to accumulate before the first run.
Yes, IMO, we will see more than one run in early 2008. The first may come after a PR stating the retail launch through the 3 brokerages along with some initial news from the 141 Capital front. But I think the real move up in PPS may come after that!
I am of the opinion that we need to see positive financials being reported by SPZI for 2 quarters in a row. Hopefully these financials will show tremendous growth over the 2 quarters so folks can see a yearly pattern starting.
Dare I say it, but IMO, we may see PPS in the .02 range by February and maybe as high as .10 by the end of 2008! I leave myself open for ridicule, I know, but I'm just trying to read the charts and feel the market sentiment like many others that are trying to bring "balance" to this board.
Oh wait, we haven't heard from that camp today. Nevermind....LOL
JMVHO,
Boca_Bobby
More great news from DKGR today. I may have to add a few more at these prices! I love to watch the volume vs. the PPS action on this one. Over the past month we had huge volume spikes on positive days. Then we see a decline in PPS on significantly lower volume!
Translation, IMO:
We have folks accumulating and then holding! In the short term the PPS may be a little volitile with jumps between .006 and .008. But if the trend continues the available shares will dry up and those holding for longer term gains will have the upper hand and thus the PPS rises!
Great news and things look great from the cheap seats!
Boca_Bobby
There was never a "release date." If you go back and look at the PR's you will see that all the launches were "planned" for sometime in the future (usually a certain month given). But I don't ever recall a specific date given. At each of these events an answer was given to explain what the delays were also. This thing we have is a living and breathing investemt. Business always seems to adjust and re-evaluate many times during the year. everything isn't as cut and dry as you wnt everyone to believe. I am also sure that if it were up to only the management team at Spooz we would see the retail launch already. But you know (at least I hope you know) that there are others parties involved that SPZI has no control over including other businesses and government regulations. Now I may be wrong but I know you will never provide evidence to support your stance, so it's useless to debate with you.
GLTY,
Boca_Bobby
Hey Gmenfan,
Well I'm stuck like you. I'm here at work again putting in those OT hours also. I am currently working about 60 hours per week! Lot's of reasons for that......
It's a great day here in South Florida expected to hit about 81 degrees! You really should take some time for yourself and come visit us here in Florida. We all need to be sure to take time to smell the roses a little. Why do we work so hard if we can never enjoy the fruits of that hard work?
Well, anyway, I think you and I are on the same page in many ways. I will only throw so much at a penny stock. I've got many just sitting here in my portfolio that are worthless at this time. Then about a year ago I found SPZI. It was different IMO. I am really investing in people here! I believe in this management team. Paul has never lied to us IMO. Yes there have been delays but I know that delays ALWAYS see to happen in the software industry.
Now this software in particular needs to be absolutely flawless in it's execution. Can you imagine the lawsuits that would happen when we start talking about people putting real money to work using SpoozToolz and it fails in even the most minor way? I think we have such a product now.
So why not just release it to the world most would say. I say take a look at BRLC! This company produces flat panel TV's. They have a great product and was even recommended by Consumer Reports as the best in class! But their CEO is a clown. He went for the golden ring too fast IMO. Growth is a great thing and Wall Street loves growth.
But what happens when you grow too fast? Well in the case of BRLC, they couldn't keep up with the demand for their product. The CEO decided on some "creative" financing to build out more. Then prices dropped! The financials went south becasue of the huge debt incuured for this "creative" financing. The PPS dropped like a stone and just can't seem to recover.
IMO, Paul knows what he's doing. By only giving this product to professionals first, he can iron out any support questions that come up, create a training program for novice investors, cement the relationships with retail brokerage houses by showing them results from the professional traders using the products.
He will slowly turn the faucet to allow more water to flow. If you open things up to fast, all you end up with is a messy floor from water over flowing the sink. Then what? You turn off the faucet and clean up the mess. I would much rather see a slow stream of water than NO stream at all!
Hang in there Buddy. IMO 2008 will be great but 2009 will be even better!
Boca_Bobby
That would be my plan as well. Unless of course we get some answers to a few simple questions. I'll just sit and wait for this one.
GLTY,
Boca_Bobby
Very similiar IMO,
The stock is listed in three (3) exchanges as well!
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=OEP.BE
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=OEP.F
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=OXPS
Didn't Paul say he wanted to get listed in Germany?
DISCLAIMER: I'm not trying to influence anyone here. Just making a very simple observation!
Boca_Bobby
I'm afraid I do get the point. And you have not read all of my posts before you responded. I have been away from the board for a reason. Unlike others who want to constantly spin a negative light about the daily activities of the PPS of SPZI. Be show me where I said,
"Then you go on as always and as every single pumper on every single message board in the world does and tell everybody that basically the "naysayers" and "pessimists" are responsible for the weak share price."
You see, I don't twist statements around. I read them very carefully and take real caution when I post the things I do. To do anything otherwise would give you and others a perfect opportunity to jump all over me, or Allie, or MC, or IW and the list goes on and on.
So my wise friend who knows so much about what I think, you may want to read all of my posts before you correct something I didn't say. I tend not to make one statement and then a few posts later contridict what I just said. You see, it would take to much of my time and energy to continually back pedal to explain why I said what I said.
My history of posts speak for themselves and anyone can look at my stance. Those of us that really want to know why a person posts the things they do tend to look at histories of the posters. I hope that doesn't offend you. Just part of doing my DD.
Funny thing is, I was ignorant to the fact that doing DD on a company also meant doing DD on the people who post about it as well...... Who knew?
Boca_Bobby
And what would be wrong with a message board reporting the correct share structure? My email was simple and straight forward. I was not looking for any insider information. So if you are correct and my email was dismissed........
What does that say about managements concern for the investors? I'm not trying to dismiss this company. Hell, I have been watching for over a month now. I heard there was going to be news...... Nothing
I think they have a great product and the whole "green" energy sector will be the place to be over the next 10 years, IMO. But these guys need to get their act together if they want to be a major player.
Now this board shows the following:
Authorized shares as of 6-22-07 :5,000,000,000
Outstanding Shares as of 6-22-07:1,030,000,000
Yet pinksheets.com shows :
Outstanding Shares
105,600,000 as of Jul 3, 2006
Authorized Shares
250,000,000 as of Jul 3, 2006
Number of Share Holders of Record
71 as of Jul 3, 2006
Float
6,000,000 as of Jul 3, 2006
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=tssp
Just give me the correct # already. This sure is much more attractive with the pinksheets #. But I tend to believe the boards # is correct. This could be the reason we see the PPS dropping as more shares have hit the open market. I suspect we get back to the .0007 range real soon before this goes upwards.
Just my opinion,
Boca_Bobby
I called the TA first for an accurate # for the share structure. They told me that they were not allowed to give the information to me and suggested I call the company directly. They gave me the wrong # also for the company.
I then called the comapny from the # listed on this message board and talked with a very nice woman that informed me the CEO would need to give that information to me. She then said he was unavailable and suggested an email.
I then sent an email........
Still waiting
Boca_Bobby
I'm confused now. First we see someone that says:
"Until we don't see 100 million shares traded a day you can be sure that we are flying under the radar of wallstreet."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=25132800
Then the same person posts:
"I really wonder myself why this stock doesn't have 100 million a day in volume if you consider that the launch is basically happening in 5 or 6 weeks."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=25135269
So which is good again? Do we want 100 million shares a day or we do not? Just trying to keep this balance board thing going here. Sure seems clear now........
Clear as mud!
Boca_Bobby
I might say Interactive Brokers would be the third but remember, this is pure speculation on our part!
Boca_Bobby
I can see only one point that I agree with in your last statement.
"It seems that outside of this board nobody believes in SPZI."
The only reason I even mention it is for one reason and that reason is your other statement of
"I really wonder myself why this stock doesn't have 100 million a day in volume if you consider that the launch is basically happening in 5 or 6 weeks."
Seems to me you would have answered your own question if you truely believe both of these statements. If no one outside this board even knows about SPZI it stands to reason that we are not trading 100 million each day.
Now one the other hand, if we take a look at the suggestion that Imperial Whazoo gave us about volume:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=24203719
If we look at the volume, it clearly points out that there was a huge amount of accumulation that has already occured. These folks just didn't abbandon the shares hey bought. So something else might be going on. The shares are being held in very strong hands and wouldn't dream of selling at these prices, thus there can be no one ready to buy the shares that just don't exist.
It has been said over and over here that the MM's are probably out of shares. I don't profess to know anything about how many shares are just floating around but it sure seems funny how Imperial Whazoo has pointed out on several days about someone accumulating.
IW showed us for approximately 4 days in a row where someone would wait until the end of the day and purchase huge blocks of shares. This just occured a few weeks ago folks. Now we see the start of a few more large blocks of shares being purchased.
If I was a trained trader, you can bet your bottom dollar I would love what going on inside this message board. Keeping talking smack about how the CEO has lied. Tell everone that there is no product of even better when yesterday we heard how the product had major problems and we cou ld expect more delays.
Then we see a message from the CEO today (after he said he wanted to stay quiet) about having the launch ready for THREE (3) brokers come January. And we get folks dismissing it as unverifable. That's it. Dismiss that information also so when a professional trader (and I don't know who it is) comes in and makes a buy of 1,000,000 million shares twice and the Ask goes up it will be dismissed as not a big deal.
All I'm saying is, step away from the message board for more than 10 minutes and take a look at he big picture. Go ahead, we'll be here arguing when you get back.
Not one single piece of news or PR can be viewed as the entire story here. But they sure can be viewed as little "tips of the iceburg." And if you glue all the pieces together that sure looks monumental to me.
But I'm a pumper..... right?
Nevermind...... go about your business of dismissing everything. I need to get back to work trading stocks and using profits for more shares of SPZI.......
Opppsssss...... Did I let the cat out of the bag? LOL
Boca_Bobby
It seems the CEO doesn't want to answer any questions at this time. I am still waiting over one month for the answer to some of the same questions you have asked. Maybe in January the answers will come. Isn't that when the new laws go into effect for California? If I was going to get a law that gave me an incentive to buy a solar product, you can bet I would wait for that law!
Anyway, you can see, I'm still lurking in the background and if I'm doing it, I bet there are many more waiting on the sidelines for a few answers. If the company would just simply answer a few basic questions like the OS for God's sake, we may start to see some buying pressure!
Until then, I'll just wait.
Boca_Bobby
Well, I saw my Grammar kissing Santa Clause! So there.... LOL
Boca_Bobby
Good to see we have people helping with those who don't understand vocabulary as well. Now this board can provide us information about SPZI and also help us with:
"grammer" & "vocaboolarry"
Boca_Bobby
Tanks fer dat! LOL
I really needed a good laugh today and that post hit the spot!
Tanks agane.....
Boca_Bobby
What facts is that please????
Boca_Bobby
Sky,
Ok, we understand that you don't buy the "marketing thing" as you call it. But this is the reason the company has given us for the delay.
Now, since you have stated,
"I believe it is not available because there are problems with it.
SWARM is based on ST2. If they are having problems with ST2, maybe that would explain why 141 has been silent with regards to SWARMs trading record."
Can you please give us some evidence of why you believe the program itself has problems? Is it just pure speculation on your part? If it is pure speculation then my mind cannot be changed due to my firm convictions that Paul has NOT lied, this is NOT a scam, and the product WILL launch in Jan. '08.
This is not a dig in any way. I just have to know you have more than a "gut" feeling on this. Thanks in advance for anything you can provide us.
Boca_Bobby