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It all depends when we see the 8k — before annual report or just after and also depends what the company then decides to do. Attach a exhibit or wait
Upon reading the merger FAQ a exhibit is required not upon the 8k agreement but recommended or then filed upon the next periodic report (10Q or 10k)
Absolutely 100% agreeing with you. We are seeing awesome stair steps being built. Each day the chart is becoming stronger
Good lookin Doog. Sounds good. Our stories are aligning more so then not (very minor differences if any)
Yep and I’m sure they have a plan for that
No the 10K comes after the agreement. Some 8k. The 8k is the agreement as there has been no agreement yet. Usually filed around annual report time. Since reports are filed on a Friday this year expect something to come out next week is my best guess but could come out this week. Idk and nobody knows when that comes out besides the company
Yep Closed is a key word which means an 8k is created which is the agreement “8k”. The 10k is the “super 8k” everyone is talking about — consolidated 10k
Guys the “super 8k” is the 10-K (annual reports consolidated) to make it less confusing. “The super 8k” is just a made up finance word for the 10k.
The 8k is the first thing that will come out which is the agreement. Signed by both parties and then once that’s filed the 10K “super 8k” is created.
Childs play bruhh I want FACTS from you. Where does it say increase in O/S -- increase in shares --- no where. lol
Where does it say there plan is to add more shares? PROVE IT
Bud where does it say anywhere increase in stock? Increase in O/S
Are you okay you keep jumping topics and it's extremely hard to talk and answer all your questions by jumping all over the place.. I think you are able to find my message below. Everything discussed has potential to be researched and analyzed by someone if they 1. have experience 2. dont have experience but extremely godly smart. 3. you have to no time tables of due dates within compliance on tax code and book code with the IRS and SEC.
Where in that paragraph does it say anything about raising shareholder equity and adding more outstanding shares? What are you talking about in that which made you come up with dilution lmao?
Operating Expenses
The Company’s operating expenses consist of general and administrative expenses. General and administrative expenses consist primarily of compensation and support costs for management and administrative staff, and for other general and administrative costs, including professional fees related to accounting, finance, and legal services as well as other operating expenses. The Company’s operating expenses were $2,970,664 and $860,589 for the nine months ended September 30, 2018 and 2017, respectively, for an increase of $2,110,075 or 245.2%. These items included patents, latex consultants, accounting fees and consultant expenses. This was the result of an increase in third-party contracted expenses and accounting fees, primarily to be paid-in stock compensation.
Just a increase of $2,110,075 from last year to this year.
It show millions being wasted on administrative expenses. Do you think they are stocking up on pencils?
Ah no WRONG lol I know the time frames because I do it for a living.
Honestly, this convo is useless, are you trying to have me convince you? Dates are on there:
RESULTS OF OPERATIONS
Comparison of the three months ended September 30, 2018 with the three months ended September 30, 2017
Done with this convo -- either you see it or you move on lol.
NOTE 12
SUBSEQUENT EVENTS
8.
To approve the Resolutions to acquire from 58% to 100% of the shares of Murida Furniture Co., Inc. dba Rotman’s; and
also look below that as it gives
MANAGEMENT’S DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS OF FINANCIAL CONDITION AND RESULTS OF OPERATIONS
VYST / Vystar Corp. QUARTERLY REPORT (Quarterly Report)
2018-11-19 sec.gov - 10
VYST
well that link should pop up to something that looks like this which is the report filed on 11/18/2018 -- what am i missing here?
https://fintel.io/filings/us/vyst
there ya go pal you know there is something in today's world called google. it has a search engine for people like you that have no clue what they are talking about. type in VYST filings
Dude this was given to the damn public. Did you not read my merger notes? Look at the 3rd quarter report filed on 11/18/2018
Okay guys I was just going to say it's late as hell don't actually call him now... My apologies and I was supposed to call him back tonight but waited for tomorrow. Relax.
Shittt man everyone just wants it tomorrow lol.
No bro, the 8K which is the agreement letter will be filed any day now IMO. The super 8k (Official 10K) consolidated VYST and Rotmans annual reports is filed after the 8K whenever it is ready.
Greg said they really can't start the Super 8k until 4/30 which is Rotmans Annual Statements are filed. That being said i'ts about 2.5 months from that year end we would see the consolidated 10-K which makes 100% total sense.
Always good to see your posts. Intellectual part of the Vystor team. Agree 100% with your post... I told Greg tonight on our phone call you guys are doing a complete 360 and ultimately they are building a damn franchise with Rotman's store... That is just one sector.. Imagine how many sectors this could branch off into - Look at companies trading at $50 with time.... Time will tell but this is fascinating diving into.
After the merger.
Don't think any ticker for the amount this is currently trading at will ever have as much potential as VYST
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT FORM 8-K
https://media2.mofo.com/documents/faq-form-8-k.pdf
TBH I had to be the one to end the conversation since I had to eat with my family. He would have talked with me for another couple hours.
Phone Conversation with Greg:
I broke down his entire financial documents based on my analysis he said I am 100% correct. Really unsure how that wasn't noticed more. Like I said numbers changed by millions.
Things for people to no they are looking at this merger or consolidation:
1. Rotmans is a 1/31 fiscal year end -- VYST is a 12/31 fiscal year end. These fiscal year ends are important due to when the two companies consolidate into one 10K. I told Greg my theory - I was exactly right. He didn't give me an exact date but I think based on our conversation we close the deal with Rotman's before the end of the month. Key word is closed meaning they have reached an agreement and now the two companies can proceed to the 75 day process.
2. As soon as the merger closes they will file the agreement with the SEC and all shareholders will be notified (IMO any day now - the end of the month.) The next step is for the two companies to completely consolidate there financials together. This process needs to be done within 75 days in compliance to create what everyone has been calling the "Super 8K".
3. We will then see a new 10k with Rotmans and VYST once the two companies have completed the consolidation/merger (really it's more of a consolidation). Assuming this comes around July time.
4. I believe Rotmans is completely audited by the way. What's left is small just don't miss it type things to make life easier -- all tax lien, pension claims, no personal stuff inside the buildings. Greg mentioned for an example they cleared up last week was the: Rotmans Museum. The museum has personal "stuff" in the building creating the auditors to go through every single thing in the museum. However I believe that is done now too and I really don't think there is anything major left to be looked at.
5. As stated before Cindy Rotman has come back from retirement to help with this process. She has been with Rotman's for 42 years and is the Operational CFO. She runs the ship with things (Greg said she is direct and pleasant. Integral part of the team for everything she does".
Really the main thing is we will see something soon and that will be:
Merger Agreement 8K
After this is filed at most we could wait up to 75 days to see what people call the "Super 8K" the consolidated 10K of VYST and Rotman's. This will more then likely be around June or July from my knowledge depending on when the original 8K is filed along with a name change.
Absolutely and it will better explain to all exactly the process of the consolidation
Just got off the phone with Greg- Will update all later after dinner
Monday is approaching fastly. Biggest day for merger news is on Monday as well so every week I look forward to finally seeing it posted.
There has always been that saying, "If you build it, they will come."
Getting geared up for Merger Monday, if not tomorrow then back to the playbook. Could be a week or two away and since VYST usually files on the last day in March I think they release the annual report earlier this year or merger news comes out 4 days prior to the annual report. There are a few different plays they can mess around with. I need to call Greg again lol.
That would indeed be nice. Patience is a virtue but it's also a b***
Well is there anyway you are able top send a mod a provate message to update quickly?
Response: How you are interpreting this is accurate -- if a merger were to happen and this were to go through (meaning VYST proves to the court without doubt EMA needs to re-pay VYST for 35 million shares buyback as well as pay VYST for damages that were done roughly estimating around 50 million shares as a buyback to VYST this will only raise the price per share higher regardless of where the merger is at). It's a win win situation here: In no way after seeing what was filed on the 3rd quarter statement by VYST that I don't think a merger is in the making with the amounts of administration expenses that were on there.
My reading of this is very clear: EMA acted in appropriately. VYST will win on all counts. And unless EMA settles the matter prior, VYST will file a counter suit going after EMA and any other involved parties for shares, funds and redress, and the longer EMA waits to settle the more expensive it will become for them (50+ million shares that are rising in price, with so huge a merger so near on the horizon that could quickly drive this into the dollars, waiting will be very costly to EMA). Friday's ruling in favor of VYST is the first of multiple domino's to fall on this side issue. I say side issue, because the apparently pending merger/consolidation is the gold here, that and what is increasingly clear to me, the huge upside growth potential, not just of vytex latex and its many applications, but longer term what FEC brings to the table. Remember this consolidation is bringing four different businesses under the VYST umbrella, and Rotman's is the financial strength from which the rest will be launched, financial strength (ie/ $36m annual revenues, 19% Net margin, strong cash and cashflow...), financial and managerial, business development strength. This side issue as I call this lawsuit is pennies by comparison. And VYST just won the first stage, and is going to win the rest anyway.
Well the admins only have control on that.... Not to sure how to get that listed above.
If only everyone can understand financial statements like me :p
Big differences in administration costs are one of the hints that will pop up within any and all mergers within any company. I am just stating the obvious that something is going on to cause millions of dollars in difference from 2017 statements to 2018 statements.... That isn't supposed to happen for a company that only has 13 employees lol.
Already have the fridge loaded with Dom Perignon Champagne...