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You are kind of proving his point here but unfortunately you dont know it. Youtube and google are good but DD cant solely rely on just these sources. The first machine was made entirely of PVC and wood accents. It fell apart. They went through several iterations just as all companies do when doing R&D. It takes time and things dont always go right. Just like UAT. UAT is no different than any other company doing R&D.
There is a lot more to that story than you are obviously aware of and I cant really go into it now but you are missing a lot. Busy day. Not sure any of it really matters anyway as they have nothing to do with UATG anymore.
It is easy to hide behind a computer an spout all kinds of things for sure. You and I can agree on that!
Gordo is correct. 100%. UAT bought Gdovics Buzzswat program and that was done through an intro by the previous admin to Mr Umbra. I have confirmed that as well as the gun manufacturer contracted to assemble UATS rifles. Adams doesnt even make their own guns they use several other manufacturers. Their equipment is old and several of their c&c machines didnt even work at the time I spoke to them as well as not having enough money to pay their staff(about 3 years ago). I spoke with several of their vendors and ALL of them said that Adams was on COD terms because of credit related issues. Also their employee turn over rate was out of control.
On the surface both issues "look" good but you have to go beyond the surface when it comes to capital investment strategies. UATG looks bad on surface but when you look deeper things change. As for Mr.Umbra's credibility and what he has actually accomplished professionally.... You have definitely NOT looked deep enough if at all. His credentials/credibility and accomplishments far exceed most including the two companies you mentioned IMO as well as the opinions of many in my firm and many by the people that actually have known him. Guy is credible. Hating him because of some personal stock price issue doesnt make him a crook. It makes you biased and its coloring your judgment.
Two questions:
1-If he was a crook, would we be fully reporting PINK today with audited financials after all that has happened over the past three plus years?
2-Why would he take the long way and go through all this time, effort and money if he was just looking to cash out?
He could have screwed all of us over at any point simply by increasing the A/S, pumping, cashing out, then reversing all of us out, sold the shell and started over. He refused to increase A/S further (even though its maxed), didnt put ANY news out for a year (no pump) and refused to to a R/S (which would have been faster, cheaper and easier as well as LEGAL).
Many of your gripes and some of your facts are completely legit but they also ignore many other facts and as well as many other things that have taking place (and continue to take place). Its in the nuance that things begin to show themselves differently and in my opinion its where the early money will be made. My opinion only and not advice. Do as you wish but for some reason you are still here so you must see at least some of what many of us here see.
I am not saying CEO is Mohandas Gandhi but hes no Bernie Madoff either. JMO
I agree especially since they have it in inventory. Be interesting to finally see what exactly they have been waiting on and why.
I will do cart wheels for a 20% ROI. This is a long term game and not the lottery "dude".
Funny coming from the guy whos been so wrong about things that he hasnt/doesnt even know when hes wrong or what hes been wrong about. Sloppy "dude". Also, pretty difficult for me to take you seriously when I am proven correct time and time again. DD takes more than a few google searches and not some pompous inept conclusion based on complete misinterpretation and inexperience. Not surprising coming from someone who is suppose to be an adult but still uses the term "dude" to address people like a teenager.
You like to insult people and call people names but when its thrown back at you, you act like a spoiled little school girl indignant that someone actually had the audacity to point out the obvious.... you are in fact an idiot. Need I remind you that you wouldnt even know what the hell is going on if it wasnt for a few of us here and not your "amazing" DD!?
You see; being an as$$&$#@ is not difficult and you do not possess some unique or special skill set. I have been respectful and ignored youre ignorant attacks but you insist on dragging down the board. Why not try acting professionally? For once. Just to see how it feels. You migh be surprised at how people begin to respond to you and you might be surprised at what we might be willing to share.
True, but I doubt that will happen. Too many things pointing to merger. More and more every day but again, I could be wrong. We should know soon enough. IMO
This has been answered MANY ties. Company even commented on it. Its not "sold out". That is the default setting in their software because of the back-end link to inventory management program. They put it up so they can load when ready. Again, they didnt sell out. They never launched. They have the product (we have seen the actual pictures) but are launching it at a later date. Why? No one knows.
100% agree with you. Some questions answered but MANY still NOT answered. I think we are headed in the right direction but I could be wrong. We should start seeing more activity and hearing more from company in the coming weeks. Things are picking up. IMO
I know youre right. Just sort of ridiculous when people act as if they have a clue when they have been wrong the whole time and jump to bipolar assumptions.
I noticed the adjustments as well. We discussed the cap structure a few weeks back and I have some thoughts about next steps. I will shoot you an email in a bit. Have to run to a quick team meeting before the bell.
Also looks like auditor made updates. Probably had comments from OTC/SEC on original filings. I will go though and see if I notice anything significant. I expect more to come. SEC loves their "comments".
Once this goes green I expect announcements.
Its amazing how I have been called every name in the book and told that I dont know what I am talking about by those who keep jumping to conclusions rather than applying real world historical based data and trends. Literally everything I said that I was made fun of for is slowly being done.
Supposedly I was an idiot for listening to Gordo when he was the first to bring up merger for upist and when I said it...I was a pumper or idiot. Now we have a new company, fully audited, just went from STOP to YIELD and when it goes green some will still say its all BS. They will be saying that all the way up to the day this ticker goes big board and then they will just say they got screwed even though they made money.
The irony is they wouldnt even know about any of this if it wasnt for a few of us actually using this board for what its suppose to be rather than talking sh@%!
#timeforsomehumblepie #timetogetaclue #yourwelcome
OR... Unless it makes more fiscally responsible sense to roll out one division, brand or product at a time. How many employees would it take to support multiple roll outs and how much would that take? Again, I think your expectations are a little over stated IMO.
I cant go back and forth. I have a train to catch and need to get the hell out of this office.
OTC? I meant legitimate real companies on real exchanges. Not BS bulletin board stuff. REAL COMPANIES
Again, I agree but "basic" is clearly understood differently. You think cap structure is irrelevant? There really is nothing left to discuss after that statement. Ridiculous IMO. Good luck to you
We agree on at least one thing... this is basic but clearly not understood by all. There is nothing criminal going on here and your expectations are ludicrous. This is pretty standard stuff and you would think you would at least be happy that you have a real stock worth something with real potential after a merger takes place because right now we have pretty much nothing with very little possibility of significant upside ANYTIME SOON if UATG stays the same. We stay in UATG and wait for the pps to give us a 300% return and we will 100 years old. You are not taking into consideration how many people bought in at low prices. Regardless of why and how we would have to fight our way all the way up into dollars.
Show me just one example where a merging company produced 300% ROI. Thats a ridiculous expectation and no where even close to a legitimate transactions ROI.
Im more realistic but if you are serious then you are going to be disappointed I suspect with literally every investment you make regardless of the ticker.
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Pretty simple. When the company is acquired we go with it. Fairly straight forward as far as historical M&A goes. The real question is what the merger looks like and how the exchange takes place. That is where our money will be made. Typical M&A on senior exchanges can be measured by basis point up to a few points but this is not a Fortune 500 company and this IS the OTC so I expect it to be much higher. My guess is around 10-15% but to be honest im really just guessing since I havnt gone through an M&A deal on OTC. Maybe someone here could better answer that question.
My opinion is that there will be a couple acquisitions increasingly more significant than the previous, in revenues and value over the course of the year with them finally going NASDAQ or NYSE by year end to close out strong and ending on a high note. We will probably see the roll out of the Hygieia stuff with increasing earnings reports and guidance. Depending on the value of the companies they bring in and the banking and capital funding they have lined up - we could see a real value hovering in the 7 to 8 figure range pretty easily. Of course that could be off since we dont really know what companies they are bringing in or how much cash they have. They obviously have "access" to cash based on what they have done thus far and according to UCIX recent financials.
Looks like they are gong to increase asset values and revenues via acquisitions of existing companies and their assets. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some IP acquisition. He loves doing that so he can use it or combine it with other things they are working on.
Its a smart strategy that build value quickly. They are probably going this route because they are building value to uplist to the big boards. I still would like to know which exchange they are eyeing, NASDAQ or NYSE. Probably start getting some clues in the next few months depending how many acquisitions they have lined up. I would love t be a fly on the wall in CEO's office! lol
Really depends on merger structure and where we land on "value". Also, a lot depends on your personal cost basis and when you sell. Very difficult question to answer with any real accuracy.
I honestly think progress has been going on the whole time, just behind the scenes. What is happening does not happen over night and from what I have seen this was planned a few years back and has been in motion for at least 18+ months. This also took quite a bit of money in addition to planning and work behind the scenes. Something like this takes hundreds of thousands of dollars just in legal and accounting work alone not to mention the costs associated with acquiring a new vehicle that is audited to move into. If UCIX ends up being a QX vehicle before they make merger announcements, it will have cost $800-$900k minimum with costs potentially going over $1M.
They have to have funding and maybe thats the reason they have not released financials for UATG. Sacrifice UATG temporarily to keep it quite until we are all moved over to new company. That takes planning but it takes far more discipline. Think about it, many here were calling for the CEO to be removed, investigated, imprisoned and called him every name in the book. The guy just stayed on course, never said anything and took all of our calls (respectfully and cordially I might add). How many of us would have been able to take that kind of pressure? Like I have said, this companys military mindset is going to serve all of us very well. IMO
I am optimistic and I REALLY hope you are wrong because that would be really disappointing not just from a financial point of view but from a personal one. I really would like to think the best of this CEO considering how open door he is with calls and e-mails. It would be nice to see my hunch about this company and the CEO be right.
You are in all probability right on the nose with this however if we merge he might not waste the money on filings although he probably already has the audits done. JMO
Yes, that is a possibility but why would they do that? It would be far less complicated and quite frankly WAY less expensive to just do a RS on UATG and start over with the new company. Why go through all this effort and expense. Seems to me that all this cloak and dagger stuff to keep it quite, not a doing a RS on UATG and signaling through the letter just released (consistent with all previous pr about uplisting) really points to wanting to keep their shareholders. Also, keeping us helps with minimum shareholder requirements and market liquidity for uplisting.
I have to disagree with you on this one. I dont really think they are going to crush us. I see us making money on this. JMO of course
Not sure how you came to that conclusion? We dont even know how the merger will work. There have been no announcements and we dont know what the prices will be for the exchange or acquisition depending on what they are going to do. Way too many variables to even come close to estimating.
I have to believe this is going to be good in a way that will show a fair ROI
Wont matter once we are moved over. Could be done a few ways, share exchange, merger of sub etc
My guess is that we will be moved over to new company as shareholders through merger process. UATG wont really matter anymore at that point. UATG is a way to get into the merger right now. JMO
Looks like these guys are going to be Directors and/or on the Board because that is a requirement to be an SEC filer-they need two independent Directors. The next step should be the lifting of the STOP sign or going to YIELD and then it being lifted. OTC is a bit strange and I am not yet completely clear on their review process.
My guess is that the future "acquisitions" that were referenced in the CEO,s letter will start being announced shortly after they are done with the admin stuff. A few weeks maybe?
Its happening
Its my understanding that Shopify stores interface with corporate sites and their inventory software. Also the interface site is corporate and Shopify operates "behind" it. I can call and check. Maybe they had trouble with "editing". Who knows. Either way I dont think its good to have ANY company website down for extended periods. JMO
Today is my Monday and there is not enough coffee in this office to carry me through the day. Coming from warm temp in Orlando back to the city where its freezing does nothing for wanting to get you out of bed.
I didnt notice it was down at all. They must be updating their back end or tweaking it. Our company site was down in November for so called improvements and when it came back up there was nothing new. They told us it was "back-end" work. It was just down again last week for same reason plus some so called tweaks. I think most IT guys do things and dont always know what is going to happen or what kind of domino effect upgrades will have.
Had t go out of town. I dont think site is down. It was up yesterday wasnt it?
I have discussed that with him on more than one occasion. He was not a fan but he agreed to do it so he did
CEO really does not like RS and has said to many people many times that he thinks the RS is vastly over used and misused. He has also said that he does not see a reason that he should do one. A few of us asked him to do one a few years ago just to get things restructured and to get it back in shape. Rip the band aid off and get it over with. He has refused - for years. RS is not happening.
Instead in that time period he finally delivered a product to market and for the first time in the companys history it posted revenues. Then it went dark and now we have activity just over a year later that is being done quietly. They clearly had a plan and have been working towards it behind the scenes intentionally trying to keep it quiet. Companies dont do that unless they are working on something significant. ESPECIALLY ON OTC! MOST OTC COMPANIES WOULD HAVE BEEN BRAGGING AND PUTTING NEWS OUT CONSTANTLY JUST TO MOVE SHARE PRICE.
CEO has said he wants to uplist and I really believe thats what he intends to do. Uplist is what hes been working towards which is why it has taken so long. I also think that is why he has not seemed worried and taken criticism from us in stride. He knew what was happening and we didnt. He didnt take it personally because he knew what the end result would be. To me this is all starting to prove what I suspected all along. Time will tell but the pace does seem to be picking up here so I suspect we dont have much longer to wait before we see something else.
I dont think he really even wanted to put out that letter and even if he did he couldnt possibly foresee where the price would go. When I spoke to him last, he didnt seem happy about the volume going through the roof. JMO
I think he put letter out because he had to due to some regulatory requirement. My guess is that the next thing we are going to see is the launch of products and one or both companies going current with disclosures. If that happens then we are all but guaranteed that a merger is happening. Thats when we will start to see what it will look like and if they are bringing outside funding (and clues to how much) in for "expansion" and other subsidiaries. They have hinted at new office building and other subsidiaries so capital funding will almost certainly have to be a part of that. Thats if they dont already have it and dont want anyone to know yet, hence no filings and stop sign.
Just let me konw when and where. I could use a vacation!
If we trade just 1% of the volume that UATG is doing right now and what it typically averages when its current and releasing news; we will be headed in the right direction. 30 day average when it was current ranged from 8-14M shares daily. We do 80,000 shares/day at $4 and we will be doing $320k daily in trades. to be honest I would be happy if we traded that a month
This volume is very encouraging. It is reminiscent of a year or so ago when the company put news out regularly. It shows that there are many eyes on this ticker and once news starts flowing the market liquidity and price will increase. A lot of interest in this company. Thats good for us longs looking for a nice ROI
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They havnt released them yet due to legal issues and the company being concerned that someone might use one of their rifles in a school shooting or something like that. They decided to wait to release and only release to military and police when they do
I just noticed something in the pictures above. The picture that has the crutch in it has a pair of yoga pants resting on top of the crutch. I thought those werent done yet?
I apologize if everyone noticed this already and has already discussed it but this is actual news to me.