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EDIG: Info for Investors (3/29 PM rMP)
General DD Info (Corporate profile, SEC filings, Patents, lots more):
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=66673 (revised 3/8)
Recent News and Opinions:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=67231 (Zibel's report from CeBIT)
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=67117 (MP3 Market forecast)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=650773 (DABOSS re the state of EDIG)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=650618
and http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=67012 (Video player thoughts)
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=66913 (Update from QDesign)
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=66611 (BusyBump chats w/Putnam)
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=66313 (New anti-piracy CDs)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=649578 (Panasonic multi-codec SD car audio system)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=648672 (TI does a little gloating)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=648205 (A Compaq reminder)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=648292 (Secure Scour enters beta testing)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=647359 (Copyrights & electronic warfare)
http://samsungelectronics.com/mobile_phone/ads_awards/trade_shows/cebit_2001_pdaphone.html (Samsung PDA-phone debuts at CeBIT)
http://www.gmate.co.kr/english/news/gmate-news/21-01-10.htm
and http://www.gmate.co.kr/english/news/gmate-news/20-11-15.htm (Gmate/Samsung Yopy gets VTT/TTV from Conversay)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=647271
and http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=647312 (Keeping an eye on things)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=647296 (Some TA courtesy of JBH)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646937 (Napster woes continue)
http://www.eastech1.com/english/newsletter8.htm (A reminder re IBM & Eastech)
http://www-5.ibm.com/de/pressroom/cebit2001/overview_e.html (IBM CeBIT website)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646824 (Eastech/EDIG LOI for DataPlay products)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646477
and http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646507 (Look Sharp now)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646423 (Some EMMS info)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646275
and http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646290 (Yepp; we're multi-codec)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646161 (Putnam e-mail to elkin)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645862 (New release of IBM's EMMS due)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645820 (Putnam e-mail to User57)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645542 (EDIG products at CeBIT)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645371 (Party over for EDIG MMs?)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645144 (Packers1 e-mail from Eastech)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645106 (Jpumper e-mail from Putnam)
EDIG news and opinions (pre-3/23/01):
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIGNW&read=466
Common Abbreviations:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIGOT&read=4488
A look back at the early days on RB:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=642371
===========================================================
Treo review compilation: http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=612321
===========================================================
EDIG Private board at RB:
(Basher-free, open to all who behave themselves)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=300337 (Instructions for joining)
Free EDIG news e-mails via eGroups:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=570639
Moderated EDIG board (no bashers/spammers):
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/board.asp?board_id=299
athomedad's EDIG Page:
http://www.edigpage.com
Note to new investors:
Many of you come here seeking a quick profit, and will sell out for a measly 100-200% gain. HOWEVER, if you take the time to study and learn as much as you can about e.Digital, its technology, and its market niche, you might just be tempted to stick around for the real profits to come. We long-term investors have done much of the legwork for you, so take the time to browse these links and KNOW WHAT YOU OWN!!
A caveat re bashers & hypesters:
There are many unscrupulous investors and other entities who use these message boards in an attempt to manipulate stock prices. See http://sclninvestors.homestead.com/bashers.html or http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=631109 for an explanation of bashers and their tactics. When these bashers decide the price has bottomed, many switch hats and become hypesters, posting wild speculations about fantastic gains or big news coming. Please don't clutter up the board responding to either; it's far more important to post relevant news and answer sincere questions. To have a basher or hypster removed from the board, use the "Report TOS Violation" hotlink that appears at the bottom right of each post. Bashing or hyping is not a Terms of Service violation, but most bashers tend to go overboard and indulge in excessive posting (10-15 posts per hour), personal attacks and use of vulgar language. All such conduct should be reported rather than ignored.
All outright lies or other overt deceptions by bashers or hypesters should be reported via e-mail to the Securities & Exchange Commission's Enforcement Division at enforcement@sec.gov . The e-mail should, at a minimum, contain a hot link to the subject post, a copy of the post's text and a brief explanation of why you feel the post constitutes a violation. Do not report posts that are qualified as opinion only. Only report posts that contain lies about or misrepresentations of material facts concerning e.Digital or other publicly-held corporations.
Longtooth, my previous response to you contained a link to a PR stating that e.Digital had licensed its jukebox design to Eastech. Therefore, the post you just made is both redundant (Zibel's report has already been posted here) and untrue. It will be removed momentarily.
Go into regular chat, I'll give you the password there.
Just did; check your mailbox (Top of screen)
Notice: The EDIG chatroom is occupied. Any chit-chat should be done there to help keep the load on the main board down.
TIA, Tinroad
EDIG: Info for Investors (3/29 AM rMO)
General DD Info (Corporate profile, SEC filings, Patents, lots more):
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=66673 (revised 3/8)
Recent News and Opinions:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=67117 (MP3 Market forecast)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=650773 (DABOSS re the state of EDIG)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=650618
and http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=67012 (Video player thoughts)
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=66913 (Update from QDesign)
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=66611 (BusyBump chats w/Putnam)
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=66313 (New anti-piracy CDs)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=649578 (Panasonic multi-codec SD car audio system)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=648672 (TI does a little gloating)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=648205 (A Compaq reminder)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=648292 (Secure Scour enters beta testing)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=647359 (Copyrights & electronic warfare)
http://samsungelectronics.com/mobile_phone/ads_awards/trade_shows/cebit_2001_pdaphone.html (Samsung PDA-phone debuts at CeBIT)
http://www.gmate.co.kr/english/news/gmate-news/21-01-10.htm
and http://www.gmate.co.kr/english/news/gmate-news/20-11-15.htm (Gmate/Samsung Yopy gets VTT/TTV from Conversay)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=647271
and http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=647312 (Keeping an eye on things)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=647296 (Some TA courtesy of JBH)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646937 (Napster woes continue)
http://www.eastech1.com/english/newsletter8.htm (A reminder re IBM & Eastech)
http://www-5.ibm.com/de/pressroom/cebit2001/overview_e.html (IBM CeBIT website)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646824 (Eastech/EDIG LOI for DataPlay products)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646477
and http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646507 (Look Sharp now)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646423 (Some EMMS info)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646275
and http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646290 (Yepp; we're multi-codec)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646161 (Putnam e-mail to elkin)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645862 (New release of IBM's EMMS due)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645820 (Putnam e-mail to User57)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645542 (EDIG products at CeBIT)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645371 (Party over for EDIG MMs?)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645144 (Packers1 e-mail from Eastech)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645106 (Jpumper e-mail from Putnam)
EDIG news and opinions (pre-3/23/01):
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIGNW&read=466
Common Abbreviations:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIGOT&read=4488
A look back at the early days on RB:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=642371
===========================================================
Treo review compilation: http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=612321
===========================================================
EDIG Private board at RB:
(Basher-free, open to all who behave themselves)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=300337 (Instructions for joining)
Free EDIG news e-mails via eGroups:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=570639
Moderated EDIG board (no bashers/spammers):
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/board.asp?board_id=299
athomedad's EDIG Page:
http://www.edigpage.com
Note to new investors:
Many of you come here seeking a quick profit, and will sell out for a measly 100-200% gain. HOWEVER, if you take the time to study and learn as much as you can about e.Digital, its technology, and its market niche, you might just be tempted to stick around for the real profits to come. We long-term investors have done much of the legwork for you, so take the time to browse these links and KNOW WHAT YOU OWN!!
A caveat re bashers & hypesters:
There are many unscrupulous investors and other entities who use these message boards in an attempt to manipulate stock prices. See http://sclninvestors.homestead.com/bashers.html or http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=631109 for an explanation of bashers and their tactics. When these bashers decide the price has bottomed, many switch hats and become hypesters, posting wild speculations about fantastic gains or big news coming. Please don't clutter up the board responding to either; it's far more important to post relevant news and answer sincere questions. To have a basher or hypster removed from the board, use the "Report TOS Violation" hotlink that appears at the bottom right of each post. Bashing or hyping is not a Terms of Service violation, but most bashers tend to go overboard and indulge in excessive posting (10-15 posts per hour), personal attacks and use of vulgar language. All such conduct should be reported rather than ignored.
All outright lies or other overt deceptions by bashers or hypesters should be reported via e-mail to the Securities & Exchange Commission's Enforcement Division at enforcement@sec.gov . The e-mail should, at a minimum, contain a hot link to the subject post, a copy of the post's text and a brief explanation of why you feel the post constitutes a violation. Do not report posts that are qualified as opinion only. Only report posts that contain lies about or misrepresentations of material facts concerning e.Digital or other publicly-held corporations.
Longtooth, re Eastech
http://www.edig.com/news/releases/pr010301.html
I suggest that you do a liitle DD on your own; there are several earlier posts that have a collection of links that will answer most historical questions about e.Digital. Better yet, visit the company website at http://www.edig.com (Why do I get the feeling that I'm talking to myself???)
Doni, I really don't know. Seems odd that it didn't appear until after we started working with Samsung; it's been talked about on Samsung's site for over a year... now it appears with 3 codecs plus JPEG capability. I suppose it'll remain a mystery for now.
Deceptacon, edig doesn't have control over deliveries, that's entirely up to the respective OEMs. EDIG is a design agency, not a manufacturer. BTW, redundant questions here are considered as spam. Spam is removed very rapidly, as are members who indulge in it.
Sim, they booted my son after two or three harmless posts; I got a warning not to post the DD more than twice a day or I'd get the boot for spamming. I question the sincerity of Raging Bull.
Nobucks, two answers:
1) The white screen is due to the server speed, that should be corrected soon per Matt, the sysop.
2) It's open season on bashers here; we shoot to kill.
Chat passwords sent to all new arrivals. Check your Mail Box at top of screen.
Re RB, I suggest we take turns posting the DD summary there every 40 posts or so. Any newbie that's serious will probably come looking for the real investors. We just have to let them know where we are. As for the bashers, my axe is close at hand, as is Joe's. (Always looking for good help, though.)
Not to worry, Mary. You're safe with us : - )
Uhhh, Ann... it's 3:45 AM in Belgium right now. Perhaps we'll hear from him early tomorrow.
Joe, I can't say for sure; probably need to dig thru the Korean Samsung website to see whether it's a PC software or player hardware feature. Here's some other info:
(Note the claim for WMA support as well as AAC/MP3)
YVP-P300 (Photo yepp II)
Multiple digital audio format support - MP3, WMA, AAC...
SMIL, JPEG, Text viewer include
1.8¡± TFT Color LCD
32MB Embedded flash memory & SmartMedia card slot
Li-ion Battery (Long life & Rechargeable)
Voice Recording
High-Speed USB interface
YVP-M600D (yepp plus)
Standard MPEG4 playback
Multiple digital audio format support - MP3, WMA, AAC...
SMIL, JPEG, Text viewer include
1.8¡± TFT Color LCD
64MB Embedded flash memory & SmartMedia card slot
Li-ion Battery (Long life & Rechargeable)
Voice Recording
High-Speed USB interface
850K Pixel Digital camera module attachable (optional)
YP-30S (Wearable yepp)
Wearable & Pendant type design
Multiple digital audio format support - MP3, WMA, AAC...
64MB Embedded flash memory
SDMI compliant (InterTrust plug-in)
Voice Recording / 4 mode equalizer / Bass booster
High-Speed USB interface
YP-MF (yepp)
Multiple digital audio format support - MP3, WMA, AAC...
64MB Embedded flash memory
Graphic Animation LCD display
Expandable playback time with SmartMedia card
EL backlight LCD on Remote Controller
SDMI compliant (InterTrust plug-in)
Voice Recording / 4 mode equalizer / Bass booster
High-Speed USB interface
http://www.ktlink.com/ces2001/korea/spec/spec_np.html
PhotoYEPP II coming soon, per Samsung:
http://www.samsungusa.com/images/prod/product/photoyepp2_sm.jpg (Picture)
Features:
The consistent operating method for memory-card applications provides more convenience.
Portable Digital A/V Player
Can Display a series of still images and the lyrics to accompany any audio track on a 1.8-inch transmission TFT color LCD panel
Voice recording capability added
Internal memory and expandable Smart Media cards / high-speed USB interface
Processor: Strong ARM[SA1110] 206MHz
LCD: 1.8" transmission TFT color LCD (Resolution: 560 x 220)
Internal memory: 64MB Flash memory
External Memory: SmartMedia(tm) card slot provided (cards not included)
Interface: Standard USB (ver 1.1)
Battery: Dedicated lithium ion battery (3.7V 1300mAh)
Accessories: Charging adapter, Operating Instructions, Remote control, Earphone, Driver & Application Software, USB Cable, Carrying Pouch, Strap
Dimensions: 2.6"(W) x 4.11"(H) x 0.94"(D)
Weight: approx. 115(excluding battery)
Display: Still Picture - 280 x 220
Play format: Standard - MP3, WMA, TEXT, JPEG Original - MP3 + JPEG + TEXT (automatic display every 1 minute)
Voice Recording: ADPCM format
Battery life: more than 4 hours (with LCD on) / more than 10 hours (with LCD off) :when you use a fully charged battery
2.6"(W) x 4.11"(H) x 0.94"(D)
berge, might be interesting to watch the volume vs. time of day; I bet there's a lot of same-day AM short/PM cover activity happening among the penny ante traders. I bet that only the high rollers are holding longer-term shorts right now. Needless to say, a squeeze on them could yield some nice returns. Some think that there isn't a lot of shorting going on; I suspect otherwise, given overall market sentiment.
Well, maybe.......
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=650618
EDIGGERS: Just got off the phone with my broker from San Diego who first got me (and a LOT of his other clients) into EDIG waaaaaaay back in the pennies. Since then he has amassed over 100,000 shares and that's just for himself. He called to tell me that he has been a steady buyer ever since EDIG dipped below $1.50 and that one of his clients informed him that shareholders should expect news within the next month or so regarding EDIG's involvement in video products. He could not be more specific because he didn't get any more info himself. I'm no hypester nor pumper... my posting record speaks for itself, so don't even try to attck the messenger. I'm simply relaying exactly what I was told from my broker who has been in this EDIG game for several years now. Take it with a grain of salt and keep your eyes on the newswires.
QDesign e-mail to DABOSS:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=650574
follow up on QDesign...
Subj: RE: (no subject)
Date: 3/28/01 2:50:49 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: kashdown@qdesign.com (Ken Ashdown)
Reply-to: kashdown@qdesign.com
To: XXXX
The Merit MP2000 QDX/MP3 player manufactured by Maycom Co. continues to be a centrepiece for demonstrating our QDX technology at trade shows and in meetings with analysts, media, etc.
Regarding sales potential of the product I suggest you inquire of e.Digital as they are in direct contact with licensees/CE manufacturers such as Maycom and other companies using their reference design. Based on feedback we have received it appears QDX technology does indeed offer an attractive set of exclusive features for DAPs supporting the QDX digital audio format such as the Maycom unit mentioned.
kind regards
____________________________________________
Ken Ashdown
VP Artist & Media Relations
QDesign Corp.
1035 Cambie St., Vancouver, BC, Canada
rstring, all the credit goes to Letgojoe; all I did was set up the chatroom after Joe posted the site address at RB. It's definitely an improvement over RB. Better format, plus a new & improved physical server in the next week or so, per Matt.
Sparty, pulled this little tidbit off the Pennnet.com pages:
UPCOMING EVENTS
APR 16-20, 2001
Symposium on Optical Data Storage: Materials, Mechanisms and Emerging Technologies
http://ds.pennnet.com/home.cfm
The Clean Rooms link:
(Already happened; 3/13 &3/14)
http://cr.pennnet.com/Events/cr/cr_east/exhibitor_list.cfm
Was it not the Clean Rooms (chip fab) convention?
Personally, I'd like to think EDIG is setting up the shorters for a massive burn. God only knows, they deserve it. One or two properly timed bombshell PRs could really ruin their day.
Another good PDA site:
http://www.twomobile.com
Mtn Nana, last I heard he was doing OK. You have mail.
EDIG: Info for Investors (3/28 PM rMN)
General DD Info (Corporate profile, SEC filings, Patents, lots more):
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=66673 (revised 3/8)
Recent News and Opinions:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=66611 (BusyBump chats w/Putnam)
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=66313 (New anti-piracy CDs)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=649578 (Panasonic multi-codec SD car audio system)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=648672 (TI does a little gloating)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=648205 (A Compaq reminder)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=648292 (Secure Scour enters beta testing)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=647359 (Copyrights & electronic warfare)
http://samsungelectronics.com/mobile_phone/ads_awards/trade_shows/cebit_2001_pdaphone.html (Samsung PDA-phone debuts at CeBIT)
http://www.gmate.co.kr/english/news/gmate-news/21-01-10.htm
and http://www.gmate.co.kr/english/news/gmate-news/20-11-15.htm (Gmate/Samsung Yopy gets VTT/TTV from Conversay)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=647271
and http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=647312 (Keeping an eye on things)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=647296 (Some TA courtesy of JBH)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646937 (Napster woes continue)
http://www.eastech1.com/english/newsletter8.htm (A reminder re IBM & Eastech)
http://www-5.ibm.com/de/pressroom/cebit2001/overview_e.html (IBM CeBIT website)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646824 (Eastech/EDIG LOI for DataPlay products)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646477
and http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646507 (Look Sharp now)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646423 (Some EMMS info)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646275
and http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646290 (Yepp; we're multi-codec)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=646161 (Putnam e-mail to elkin)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645862 (New release of IBM's EMMS due)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645820 (Putnam e-mail to User57)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645542 (EDIG products at CeBIT)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645371 (Party over for EDIG MMs?)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645144 (Packers1 e-mail from Eastech)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=645106 (Jpumper e-mail from Putnam)
EDIG news and opinions (pre-3/23/01):
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIGNW&read=466
Common Abbreviations:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIGOT&read=4488
A look back at the early days on RB:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=642371
===========================================================
Treo review compilation: http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=612321
===========================================================
EDIG Private board at RB:
(Basher-free, open to all who behave themselves)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=300337 (Instructions for joining)
Free EDIG news e-mails via eGroups:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=570639
Moderated EDIG board (no bashers/spammers):
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/board.asp?board_id=299
athomedad's EDIG Page:
http://www.edigpage.com
Note to new investors:
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e.Digital General Information:
Company Website: http://www.edig.com
Overview (Corporate): http://www.edig.com/company/index.html
Overviews (External):
http://www.advisorinsight.com/pub/maccess/smc/EDIG_26841Y_general.htm
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=605397
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=598535
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=587437
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=327454
Our founder, Elwood Norris: http://www.atcsd.com/HTML/woody.html
Our Management, key personnel and Board: http://www.edig.com/company/management.html
Company news, links to PRs, etc: http://www.edig.com/news/index.html
e.Digital Partners: http://www.edig.com/partners/index.html
e.Digital Patents:
MicroOS(tm)is a small footprint (8KB) operating system for flash memory and other non-volatile memory that can be utilized in hand-held peripheral devices interfacing with the internet, whether by hard-wired or wireless means, and in digital voice/audio/video recording and playback devices. The key to understanding Edig’s potential is in their multiple patents on MicroOS and its applications.
http://www.delphion.com/details?&pn10=US05491774
Handheld record and playback device with flash memory
http://www.delphion.com/details?&pn=US05742737__
Method for recording voice messages on flash memory in a hand held recorder
http://www.delphion.com/details?&pn=US05787445__
Operating system including improved file management for use in devices utilizing flash memory as main memory
http://www.delphion.com/details?&pn=US05839108__
Flash memory file system in a handheld record and playback device
http://www.delphion.com/details?&pn=US05842170__
Method for editing in hand held recorder
e.Digital SEC Filings:
http://www.freeedgar.com/Search/FilingsResults.asp?SourcePage%20=CompanyList&CIK=886328&UseF...
9 Nov, 2000 General Meeting of Shareholders:
http://www.edig.com/news/AGM_SPEECH_2000.PDF (CEO's remarks)
http://www.edig.com/news/releases/pr111000.html (Company PR)
http://webevents.broadcast.com/edigital/shareholdermtg1100/home.asp (Webcast replay)
http://www.ragingbull.altavista.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=555845 (External coverage)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=531711 (A shareholder's impressions)
Insider Trading History:
http://www.insidertrader.com/freestuff/search.asp?search=1&criteria=EDIG
Market Projections:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=630873
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0010/00102503flashmemmarket.asp
http://www.electronicnews.com/enews/Issue/RegisteredIssues/2000/06192000/z12f-1.asp
http://www.instat.com/pr/2000/mm0012da_pr.htm
http://www.ti.com/sc/docs/innovate/iaudio/opportunity.htm
http://library.northernlight.com/PN19990924070000633.html?cb=13&sc=0#doc
What is MicroOS:
http://www.edig.com/products/technology.html
haiyaku and doni on EDIG and Flash memory:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=478899
What is SDMI?:
http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,3656,2415231,00.html
A primer on music downloads:
http://www.prostudio.com/studiosound/mar00/bcast_download.html
Primers on DSPs, codecs and net music:
http://www.5ddesign.com/html/audioS2.html
http://www.nikkeibp.com/nea/sep99/tech/index.html
http://www.ednmag.com/ednmag/reg/2000/07202000/15df.htm
EDIG and voice recognition:
http://voicerecognition.com/1999/news/04_13_99.html
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIGNW&read=292
The Treo jukebox: http://pcweb.mycom.co.jp/news/2000/11/15/09dl.jpg
Provenance- http://www.upside.com/Ebiz/39bd37380.html
Inception- http://www.edig.com/news/releases/pr082300.html
Debut- http://www.edig.com/news/releases/pr112000.html
Reference design- http://www.edig.com/products/reference-jukebox.html
Website- http://www.treoplayer.com
Some first takes-
http://hardware.dmusic.com/details.php?id=169
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=572141
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIGNW&read=401
The DataPlay connection:
http://www.edig.com/products/reference-dataplay.html
http://www.edig.com/news/releases/pr010401a.html
http://webbusiness.cio.com/archive/063000_rate.html
http://www.dataplay.com/jsp_files/index.jsp
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=574025
http://www.edig.com/products/custom-dataplay.html
http://www.us.st.com/stonline/press/magazine/challeng/2ndedi00/chal06.htm
The e.Digital Internet Music Players:
Reference design- http://www.edig.com/products/reference-dimp.html
The Maycom MP-2000: http://www.maycomcoltd.com/pro_mp280.htm
The Lanier CQuence:
http://www.lanierhealthcare.com/cqmobile.htm
Free EDIG news e-mails via eGroups:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=570639
EDIG Private board at RB:
(Basher-free, open to all who behave themselves)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=300337 (Instructions for joining)
Agoracom e.Digital forum:
http://www.agoracom.com/nonmemforum/main.asp?topic=e%2EDigital&tr=
Silicon Investor e.Digital board: http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/subject.gsp?subjectid=13369
athomedad's EDIG Page:
http://www.edigpage.com
Allan Detrich's EDIG webpage:
http://www.allandetrich.com/edigitalhomepagesmain.htm
Some useful info for those new to OTC/BB stocks, courtesy of Wolfpackvoltare:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=107737
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=107740
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=107744
Good post re hand-helds:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=650309
Onebluesky, that remark was attrribted to a post-SHM conversation someone had with Robert. I suspect he was referring to FY2002, which ends next March.
New BusyBump post:
Long Talk w/Robert!
He was unusually talkative and conversational this AM...decidedly upbeat and anticipating the imminent rollout of products, beginning in April and lasting throughout the year.
Question #1- Has the recent news from Palm and the overall market conditions effected our OEM timelines?
Response #1- No! Our OEM customers are not pulling back. They see the handheld market as taking the place of the booming PC market of the recent past. The days of buying a PC and adding endless additional bloatware are over. Handhelds are taking over and our OEMs are going full speed ahead. They are wrapping up production to meet the demands of DataPlay and a fall rollout of products.
Question #2- Are we involved in products other than music players/JBs that will be out soon?
Response #2- Yes. We are much more than a music player/Lanier only company now. We are uniquely positioned with DataPlay. We were there first, integrating our MicroCam technology in many other platforms and products. Now, those platforms are becoming reality and we will be able to announce those products soon. It is worth noting that the quantities that the OEMs are talking about with DataPlay are impressive!
Q#3- The IBM Travelstar drives....will we see additional applications in other Edig designs?
R#2- Most of the OEMs that will be bringing out our JB platform initially will be using a Travelstar drive. However, a few significant OEMs will be using other hard drives due to their own established relationships with other CE firms.
Q#4- The HyTek delays....is this spilling over into Eastech?
R#4- No. You have to realize that Eastech is on a completely different time schedule than Hango. They started much later and are moving very quickly to bring products to market. HyTek's main problem was their enthusiasm for our platform. Realizing how advanced it was, they wanted to get out early, to be first to market.
We tried to get them to just base their estimates on the quarter, not specific months, but they chose otherwise. Nonetheless, I don't see any show-stoppers here. The good news is that products are coming!
Q#5- How would you answer the pessimists that abound because of the share price?
R#5- I love our position in this new market but I hate the share price! Fundamentally, Edig is vastly improved over a year ago. We have multiple OEMs for our JB platform, some announced and others still to be announced. It is time to deliver and we are confident that we will do just that. We have Fleischman-Hillard ready to bring Edig to the forefront of the handheld market and into the public eye. We will start to see the results of our efforts. Treo has been delivered and will continue to be delivered to reviewers. Other OEMs jukeboxes will be delivered to reviewers shortly and after that, to the retail marketplace.
Q#6- How would you sum up Edig's situation for the remainder of this year? Are you happy about our progress and near term prospects?
R#6- Oh! Yes! Very happy. I have been here since 1988. The minor delays that have been caused by changing market conditions have been just course corrections. We have faced much greater problems in the past. Now is the time to deliver and we are ready to do so! Everything takes time. I think this will be much bigger in the end than anyone realizes. We, at Edig, are the beginning and the middle of product design and development, but we are not the end. We do not control the end. That is up to the OEMs....and the OEMs believe that this is the future!
Stay tuned, everyone! Robert's comments today were full of unbridled excitement and a feeling of imminent success. He was reluctant to place any specific dates or timelines to anything because he is aware of shareholder attitudes that they've heard this all before. But, his message was clear! He frequently used the expression..."now is the time to deliver!", and I am convinced that the time starts in April. IMHO!
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=650337
Reminder - we have a private chatroom; I'll PM all the new arrivals with the password.
OT: Napster-proof CDs
The music industry has a secret plan to safeguard popular music from the wild Web.
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By Charles C. Mann
March 27, 2001 / If all goes as planned, Charley Pride will make music history in April. After selling more than 70 million records, Pride -- one of the last great figures from the pre-Garth, twang-box radio glory days of country music -- is set to release America's first copy-protected compact disc. A tribute to singer Jim Reeves, who died in a plane crash in 1964, Pride's CD will incorporate technology that, in theory, will stop listeners from ripping its tracks into MP3s. If it works -- a hotly disputed question -- copy protection will change the terms of the battle over online music.
Although at first glance there would seem to be little overlap between Pride's audience and the "information wants to be free" demographic, the singer was disturbed to find his songs on Napster. "As I was negotiating with Charley, I learned that [protecting CDs] was important to him," says Bob Heatherly, head of Music City Records, the independent Nashville label that Pride joined in January. "He was especially concerned about the songwriters," says Heatherly, because, unlike singers who can tour, songwriters depend almost entirely on CD royalties. "I've seen songwriters myself who have been close to homeless before they finally got the two or three hits that let them survive. And so when I realized how important this was to Charley, I said, 'Let's find a way to make this happen.'" Read Inside's interview with Charley Pride.
Music City plans to employ patent-pending CD-protection software from SunComm, a Phoenix start-up. The software passed initial tests in late March and Heatherly believes that a copy-proof "Charley Pride: A Tribute to Jim Reeves" should appear on store shelves by early May.
Pride almost certainly won't be the last musician to use the technology. For years the digerati have mocked the labels for putting out what are, in effect, perfect rip-ready copies of digital master recordings. "The CD is the root of all of our problems with the Net," says Jay Samit, senior vice president of new media at EMI, which is testing various copy-protection technologies. "If CDs were as hard to copy as DVDs or VHS tapes or even books, we would not be going through anything like what we're going through now with Napster or Gnutella."
Prodded by the explosive growth of Napster, and the difficulties of blocking copyrighted material on any file-sharing service, the labels have been actively examining methods of copy-protecting CDs. Indeed, Inside has learned that at least four of the five major labels are seriously evaluating the technology -- and that at least three have begun or are about to begin testing it. Although label executives stress that their companies have not yet committed to copy-protecting their releases, they are unanimous in their belief that someone will try out the technology commercially within months.
Unfortunately, every CD-protection scheme faces a crucial obstacle: making CDs unrippable onto CD-ROMs also makes them unplayable on some CD players -- a feature guaranteed to anger customers. The risks were demonstrated clearly in June, when BMG trial-released in Germany a version of "Razorblade Romance," the second CD from the Finnish tattoo-metal band HIM, that used copy-protection software from Midbar Technology of Tel Aviv. Despite apparently extensive testing, about 3 percent of buyers could not play it, forcing a chagrined BMG to recall the CDs and reissue the record. The label is continuing to test copy-protection systems.
"Nobody wants to make things difficult for legitimate purchasers," says Cary Sherman, general counsel of the Recording Industry Association of America, which is helping the labels examine the new techniques. "But if piracy continues to spiral out of control, [copy-protecting CDs] will become more and more attractive an option -- even if it has some negative impact on some listeners."
A number of software companies have sprung into existence to help the industry solve its piracy problems, including SunComm, Midbar and TTR Technologies, another Israeli outfit. None will publicly discuss how its products work, but interviews with the labels and audio engineers suggest they all function in essentially the same way: They take advantage of small differences between the technical specifications for compact discs, which follow what is called the "RedBook," or CD-DA standard, and the specifications for CD-ROMs, which follow the "YellowBook" (for straight CD-ROMs) or "OrangeBook" (for rewritable CD-RWs) standards.
The RedBook standard -- named after the red binder it first appeared in -- was defined by Phillips and Sony in 1982, back when Shawn Fanning was still crawling around bear rugs. Quickly Sony and Phillips realized that the CD could also be used to house computer files, and in 1984 the two companies developed the somewhat different YellowBook standard for data storage. (Phillips and Sony finalized the OrangeBook standard, for rewritable CDs, in 1995.)
Unlike vinyl records, which store music in a continuous spiral, RedBook CDs -- the CDs owned by every music fan -- break up music tracks and distribute them higgledy-piggledy around the disk in "sectors" that are similar to the data sectors on computer hard drives. Because the data are scattered all over the disc, each CD has a "table of contents" that tells the player where to find each track. RedBook CDs run a maximum of 74 minutes and can hold at most 99 tracks -- if a CD is longer or has more tracks, the player won't know how to read the extra music. Importantly, the music sectors on a CD are interwoven with additional error-fixing data that the player's built-in software uses to reconstruct the tracks if dirt or tiny air bubbles from the manufacturing process make little chunks of the disk unreadable.
CD-ROMs, which are also used for computer software, are different. Because CD-ROMs may have hundreds or even thousands of files, they need to handle many more than 99 "tracks," which means they have different, larger tables of contents and can, in theory, hold up to 100 minutes. Because computer programs can't just skip a bit of code if the disc is dirty, CD-ROMs are more exacting about error correction. For that reason, a YellowBook CD-ROM devotes an extra chunk of each data sector to a second method of detecting and fixing flaws.
According to label executives and audio engineers, copy-protection firms take advantage of these differences by adding extra data to both the tables of contents and the music tracks -- data that are ignored by CD players but confuse CD-ROMs. One purchaser of the Midbar-protected version of Razorblade Romance, for instance, reported on Slashdot that an Onkyo CD player had no trouble with the CD, but Cdparanoia, a powerful open-source ripping program, could extract only 30 seconds of it. The CD player, the Slashdotter wrote, displayed "a playing time of 100 minutes, 30 seconds -- not! ... So the trick seems to be that the playing time of 100:30 is interpreted as 00:30." The literal-minded computer software, he suggested, stopped when told it had reached the end, whereas the "hifi-player also says 00:30 of course, but after 30 secs it goes down to 99:59" and plays normally. Asked about this account, a Midbar representative said the firm "cannot provide more technical information at this time."
Although audio engineers say that planting false data in the table of contents is part of every copy-protection scheme, they also aver that the most important copy-protection techniques involve adding actual errors to the music. When a standard CD player comes across an error in a CD, says a technology officer at a major label, "it basically skips over it and keeps playing. But a CD-ROM must read every bit of the data. When it detects something that it suspects is an error, it loops back and rereads the data, trying to discover how to fix the problem. And ultimately, if the error can't be corrected" -- as is the case with the "erroneous" data introduced by copy-protection programs -- "the software will cease to run and the CD-ROM will stop playing."
The trouble is, many high-end and car-stereo CD players use CD-ROM technology, which is both more accurate and less likely to skip when the player is jostled. Consequently, some audiophiles and commuters may not be able to play protected CDs. "I feel gloomy every time I go on a plane and see how many people are listening to music with their laptops," says a label executive who nonetheless regards copy protection as inevitable. "High-end players, car players, laptops -- those people are going to feel burned, and justifiably so, if they can't listen to music in the way they like."
In addition, according to Don Shulsinger of Oak Technology, a CD-RW and optical-storage manufacturer, the sheer disparity in the technical specs of CD-ROM brands almost ensures that some CD-ROM machines will always be able to read copy-protected CDs. "There is no standard way in which the firmware inside of a CD-ROM drive is written," he says. "There's massive amounts of drives out there and the testing copy-protection firms have to do is simply enormous."
"We're of course aware of these issues," says Emanuel Kronitz, chief operating officer of TTR, which says two major labels are testing its software. "It's a major technological challenge, which is why we believe that what we've done -- mostly beating it -- is not trivial."
Even if the compatibility issues can be solved, the Slashdot crowd will protest that the very idea of copy protection infringes their fair-use rights. (The industry responds that fair use of music does not include the right to make entire backup CDs, and that consumers will still be able to make cassette copies.) More importantly, Internauts argue that copy protection is futile because it will inevitably be cracked by the Net's legions of amateur lock-rattlers. In their view, people will get around copy protection simply by running the output of their CD players directly into their computer sound cards and capturing the resulting music with stream-capture programs like Total Recorder. In addition, computer-game hackers have developed programs -- such as BlindRead, CloneCD and DiscDump, all readily available on the Net -- that duplicate copy-protected game CD-ROMs by ignoring the "errors" that manufacturers introduce into the data in an effort to stump typical CD-ROM copying programs. In theory, people could adapt them to rip protected music tracks.
More methods of beating copy protection will surely evolve, hackers argue, spurred on with the tacit consent of the computer trade. As chagrined label executives have often noted, an entire industry -- ranging from start-ups like MusicMatch to giants like Hewlett-Packard and Apple, which are touting their products as ripping machines -- has grown up around the CD-ROM and MP3. Will all of these companies just sit on their hands if copy-proofing becomes the norm?
Copy-protection firms mostly regard hacking threats as marginal. "It is always possible that somebody somewhere will break the protection," concedes William H. Whitmore Jr., SunComm's vice president of marketing. Acknowledging this, SunComm's promotional material promises only "to greatly reduce unauthorized digital copying of original content on CDs. "But it will be far too difficult for the average user," Whitmore says. "For them, the CD-ROM in their computer -- the nemesis of the recording industry -- just won't play our CDs."
But even in the best of circumstances, copy-protecting CDs is "not a long-term solution," according to Talal Shamoon, vice president of media at the digital-rights management firm InterTrust Technologies, which works extensively with Universal. Copy-protected CDs, he argues, inevitably remove possibilities which listeners now enjoy, such as the ability to rip songs onto CDs.
The industry will have to make a better tradeoff with its customers, he says. As an example, he points to the French techno act Daft Punk's second album, "Discovery." Released earlier this month by Virgin Records, the CD came with a plastic card that gave CD purchasers access to a special fan-club Web site. The site offered additional music that is, in theory, available exclusively to people who bought CDs. "The beauty of the Daft Punk model is that there's no real threat to consumers," Shamoon says. "Instead it's aimed at creating an affinity experience around the compact disc." He believes that putting such value in consumers' hands lessens their incentive to pirate.
Ultimately, though, affinity experiences alone will not save the industry, in Shamoon's view. "I've talked to a lot of people in the record industry, and they all are of the opinion that in the long run, the CD and the CD player, as they stand now, are basically a lost cause." At best, he says, protected CDs will be a "bridge technology" as the industry prepares itself for "the only real solution": replacing CDs with a new kind of music-playing machine, such as the forthcoming, quarter-sized DataPlay disc, which should be available by Christmas.
"You're going to need a new generation of secure devices," says Dan Lieman, one of the four mathematicians who co-founded NTRU, a rights-management firm in Burlington, Mass. "Ultimately it's going to have to be done in hardware, because hardware is a lot harder to hack than software."
Unfortunately, consumers have resisted past efforts to replace CDs with MiniDiscs, DVD audio discs and Super Audio Compact Discs. For now, the labels' technologists agree that copy-protecting CDs with software locks is the most practical way to go. "Some of the best and most experienced engineers in the world are working on this," says Samit of EMI. "It's near and dear to our hearts to get this right."
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About the writer
Charles Mann is a contributing editor for Inside.com.
http://www.salon.com/tech/inside/2001/03/27/cd_protection/print.html
cksla, here's a little more on the Samsung PDA-Phone:
http://samsungelectronics.com/mobile_phone/ads_awards/trade_shows/cebit_2001_pdaphone.html
OT: Some neat widgets here:
http://www.twomobile.com/gadgetgallery.html
Is it similar to the PC-Ephone?? (Also from a Samsung JV)
Cksla, what do you think of the new VTT/TTV Samsung PDA (Yopy)?
http://www.gmate.co.kr/english/news/gmate-news/21-01-10.htm
and http://www.gmate.co.kr/english/news/gmate-news/20-11-15.htm
Panasonic SD car player
(From packers1)
http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_electronics/caraudio/sd.asp
cksla, I hear Conversay is hooking up with Palm to add VTT/TTV capability.