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Tiger Woods as an endorser of Musclepharm looks like risky bet...unless, Tiger Woods gets more engaged with the brand and acts more like Arnold.
Has to be seen though! So far, I doubt his endorsement has boosted sales to any noticeable extent.
johnny manziel and arnold schwarzenegger....these two are valuable endorsers...i back them 100%.
Tiger Woods?? c'mon! he is too expensive, too boring and too irrelevant for Musclepharm.
that's new to me.
Ive never heard of anybody trading according to what day in the week a company's quarterly results are released.
Tiger Woods is a waste of money!
Nobody cares about him as a person....he is a freakin' joke!
Californian golfer that moved to Florida to save on taxes and to screw imbecile cocktail waitresses from New Jersey....tell me who gives a damn about such a prick?
David Beckham, that's the kind of endorser that Musclepharm needs apart from Arnold.
I read somewhere that Puma was huge in the 70ties because it sponsored Brazilian soccer player Pele.
Pele was an interesting person off the field as on the field...
This is why Arnold works and Tiger doesn't work...Tiger is a dork when he doesn't play golf.
apart from the steroid use of course.
No matter what, more healthy sports nutrition wouldn't hurt.
Musclepharm really need a green vegetable whey protein drink....that would be pretty cool.
Many studies have shown that heart failure, diabetes is linked strongly to overconsumption of red meat and lack of vegetables and fruits in the diet.
This might explain why so many bodybuilders die from heart failure in their 40ties and 50ties.
"There's a shift away from the perception of food that is mass-produced towards food that is perceived to be more homemade or artisanal or sustainably produced," said Keith-Thomas Ayoob, associate clinical professor at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York.
"Consumers want to feel that they're doing healthier things and eating a healthier diet."
Coco Protein is really the only Musclepharm product that follow that thesis....I wonder if Musclepharm has plans for any other such products?
probably more Fitmiss than Nature Sport could include such kind of products...Isopure kind of got the best platform for such products, a shame Musclepharm doesn't have any brand that fit that category..
Nature Sport most likely will become a broader alternative to the Clif brand....and be more manly than Isopure.
nice products:
http://blueprintcleanse.com/index.html
The Ceo of Hain Celestial Group presented these products at CNBC this morning.
These are the kind of products Nature Sport and Fitmiss should come up with...
what musclepharm product do you recommend to boost a flat butt?
I sold Musclepharm at $13.85 and from the looks of the chart it looks like I did pretty well too.
It is not really a cheap product and it doesn't need to be.
I have no specific information on what low grade protein whey costs versus high grade....it might not be so much of a difference if you mass produce....but giving more at GNC should always be a consideration....as long as Walmart is cool with it.
The same brand can be extended to different types of customers....Like Nordstroem Racks for those that prefer shopping at an outlet versus Nordstroem Department store for those that prefer shopping at an upscale Department stores.....both types of customers get the experience they look for....
So, Musclepharm should have done it this way:
Iron Whey Green is a high grade whey protein for the pros.
Iron Whey Blue is a lower grade whey protein for everybody to afford.
Investors love seeing such branding strategies....it shows that the company manages its costs very effectively and it shows that the company serves as many customers possible as their terms.
Bellator_exec got a point!
First they need to stock the Arnold Iron...I went to one Walmart and there were 4 stocked....I went to another Walmart and it had none. Body Fortress pretty much got all the space.
In a way, Bellator_exec got a point. The same quality of Arnold Iron should not compete againt the one at GNC.
Musclepharm should have made a cheaper Arnold Iron Whey...with cheaper quality of Whey protein....and perhaps changed the color from green to blue. I do like the Arnold Iron packaging....that is top notch, the best Musclepharm came up with so far....It is just a problem of margins, Musclepharm should play the game of Walmart.
Many manufacturers from cordless fixed phones, to textiles....make special products only for Walmart....Musclepharm should have done the same, or at least make another Arnold Iron line for GNC.
Jen Selter is not the new Jane Fonda...90% of her butt is plastic surgery...the other 10% is bagel and cheese...
C'mon! Musclepharm needs some young athlete or fashion model to endorse the brand...Somebody with an amazing body and nice personality.
it's definitely an improvement from the standard black pink packaging....black and pink might be good choice for marketing a vibrator or some kinky lube...but not for sport nutrition.
70% of visitors to GNC are women and there ain't enough brands for women...so, Fitmiss is a huge opportunity for Musclepharm....Musclepharm just needs to work on making a distinct branding and packaging for them. The brand itself is okay, even if it's an imitation of the skinny girl brand.
The packaging is terrible though...the container is too masculine and the colors are too feminine...It just sticks out too much in a bad way.
lol perhaps Musclepharm's brands shouldn't be that different from each other as Ferrero's...The comparison was meant as a provocation. Thing is that Musclepharm should strive to become market leader with each brand....even if thatll most likely not happen easily with Post Holdings investing so heavily into almost product category....
What is the point of entering the women sports nutrition space if youre gonna be run over by Post Holdings? Post Holdings might buy Labrada that got it together with the LEAN BODY brand in that space. Fitmiss brand is a mess....Jen Selter, Im not even sure she makes any sense as an endorser...All she is famous for is a big ass....if you want a big ass to endorse you call this broad Kim Kardashian.
Musclepharm should differentiate the different brands more from each other...thatll create much stronger brands which value wont erode that easily
Ive always found it weak when a company just puts different labels on pretty much the same products, product categories and use the same type of containers, packaging for the different brands
Let's compare Musclepharm to Ferrero Rocher from Italy (Nestle owned)
http://www.ferrero.com/
Okay, Ferrero got 4 different main brands, all different and very distinct...That's what Im talking about.
I mean, chocolate is chocolate....but the way you wrap it, market it can be very different....same thing with Whey protein.
With Coco Protein we got some distinct products....but I see too much overlap between the different brands, two colors, same type of containers....I just don't dig that...
joke aside, there is no pumping really....Musclepharm is kind of conservative in its guidance going forward.
Only problem from my side is the equity compensation...and the lack of profitability in a highly lucrative industry.
it's a nice looking product...but there is a lot of competition from Cytosport and Premier Protein in this category.
Musclepharm needs another 10 of such protein drink products, and the coconut water element probably doesn't mean that much again....as all these products look alike.
I wonder why Glanbia is so absent in this category? Glanbia seems to be the weakest company when it comes to sales and marketing. Glanbia benefits from a cost perspective sourcing the Whey protein internally, and from a tax perspective, having the HQs in Ireland.
Apart from that, Glanbia is a boring company...that buys what it needs but doesn't come up with much on it's own.
MP Pump, that would be a good name for Musclepharm's conference call.
MAERSK, the largest container shipping company in the World got this motto:
"With due diligence", or "No loss should hit us, which by due diligence could be averted." This means that you need to do things properly and on time. Do not skimp on your work.
Hiring the wrong people on the wrong terms....so much for the effort. Get outta here!
Musclepharm doesn't need to excite me with more than $50 millions...anything above $40 millions is completely legit and according to expectations.
Who knows how much Musclepharm sold in Q3? it is really hard to tell in the current environment with lots of competition between major brands....What is more important is how the bottom line is developing.
I invested $180,000...it then went to $320,000.....I then sold 8600 shares because of these issues...what else should i have done?
should i have waited till everybody realized that brad is not a chihuahua but a wolf?
The Sydney Rollock resignation may teach kids why they should not eat too many cookies from Denver.
and no, I have not bought more of Musclepharm's shares today.
Musclepharm got one thing right, that a company as them should have multiple brands to meet different kinds of customers at their terms.
Such a strategy fits perfectly to America with multiple retail channels, supporting different kind of consumers.
This is brilliant thinking and Musclepharm is pretty much alone in this regard.
Musclepharm and Post Holdings are the ones shaking up the traditional thinking of the industry.
In a way you have a point and in a way you don't!
Muscletech, Optimum Nutrition got much more of a foot holding at GNC than Musclepharm, that recently has gotten a little more space.
MuscleTech got different brands for different channels...with MuscleTech for those that shop at GNC and care a lot about the customer service and quality of the product...and with Six Star brand for those that care less and shop at CVS, Walmart etc.
Optimum Nutrition doesn't really have much of any sophisticated brand strategy, having different brands in the same channels...but with slightly different strengths in different product categories.
Musclepharm got some sort of brand extension strategy...with an Arnold line for Walmart, Sam's Club and Winn-Dixie....but also at GNC, vitamin shoppe, bodybuilding.com though much wider product selection. The Musclepharm line is primarily sold through specialty retail, with the exception of MP Combat at Costco. Costco is somehow a high end wholesales store that carries many skus supermarkets typically wouldn't carry.
To me this works and it most likely wouldn't make any marketing savvy person frown their nose...it's okay! Arnold can sell everywhere, he is a very likable idol to many.
I don't really understand much of Glanbia strategy....Post Holdings seem to have it more together, building strong consumer brands in each of the different categories...with Dymatize for protein powder, Fiber One for protein bars and Premier Protein for protein RTD
I should have assumed that the equity compensation plan is a scam? howcome? that's not the norm out there, lots of serious people running businesses, where the business is larger than themselves.
a company granting stock options with exercise price equal to zero and then letting short term employees leave with 5 years of unvested stock...what is that?
It's not an incentives program, it's not an employee retention tool...it is a buffoonery, a freakin' joke!
Nobody mentions dilution, it is a taboo word.
oh, I do have 14600 shares invested and if the stock falls more from here.....I might add to my position.
Q4 will be good but the letter to the shareholders will be the bitch...hopefully less of a bitch than last year, but a bitch.
The sooner of an acquisition, the more I will own of it....and the less you will own if you are an insider...simple math.
The management will keep on gaining from the dilution, so unless some activist investor stops it from doing so...nothing gonna change.
The share will get a hit after the next letter to the shareholders in January. That doesn't mean the stock couldn't be higher than where it is today...but, no matter what, announcement of more employee incentives programs won't be accepted that positively going forward.
The memory of Musclepharm's history of high and wasteful dilution and it's negative effect on stock performance will be present.
It is kind of shame that the management has created this situation...and honestly, I think it will continue when it gets uplisted to Nasdaq.
Only relief to investors will be the day the company is acquired by some other company....then this circus will be over.
Critique is not bad if it is fair and somebody takes notice and listens to it. One time i complained to a mutual fund company in denmark over a merger between two mutual funds. I argued that it tax-wise was a very dumb move. Coincidently, the ceo of the mutual fund company was the former minister of finance in Denmark....so, he invited me in for a talk, he listened and he followed my advice.
He was 10 times smarter than any of us, still he had the ability to listen to common sense.
Equity compensation plans are typically changed over time...so next time Musclepharm grants stocks to it's employees...it might put more thought process behind it.
Well, Im not any phony...and honestly, Musclepharm is not my greatest worry among my investments.
I hold 14000 shares in Deutsche Bank and that has just been one huge disappointment. 5500 shares I bought at current levels, while 8500 shares were bought at $39 to $48....so, Im hurting, It's been a major blow.
Musclepharm has performed very well because of the sales boost, lately I think it gets more obvious that the management of the company are a little too wasteful with money. On the other hand, the management is quite so visionary and successful in many ways....as Musclepharm has moved into the super league of sports nutrition companies in short time.
The greatest company in the industry, Glanbia is clearly getting pressured from all side, in particular from Post Holdings, that looks like it eventually will push Glanbia aside.
Clif bar, Cytosport, MuscleTech, Musclepharm and Cellucor...are doing fine too.
GNC's own brand and smaller brands are getting crushed by these strong companies....
Musclepharm is a very interesting company, but far from perfect too from a shareholder's perspective with massive dilution and an undergoing sec investigation
Hiding truths or creating false rumors about a company doesn't change anything in the long run. Eventually, everybody gotta know the truth.
Bellator_exec creates spin, I don't....I say things the way they are.
It doesn't make any sense to be paid for 5 years of work after 1 years work! It just doesn't make any sense!
When Im made aware of something negative about something a company that I invest but decide to close my eyes...and not either sell all shares or reduce...what am I?
I believe that is a bad investor. The negative news didn't come from me, Musclepharm sent out a press release with negative information, I reacted....I believe that made 100% sense.
I don't agree with bellator_exec as he is looking at things completely isolated from the whole...also, lots of his claims are unproven and very unlikely to be true.
Also, I'm not a daytrader that short shares and trade options....I'm more of a long term and occasionally a swing trader when seems fit.
Ive never held 24k shares, but I held 23k until last week...