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photog...not far from their 20 minutes might hook up with you,,,need to work in palm springs on monday and tuesday,,,might try to make it ,,,dont know the day,,,,like to hook up,,,bumpy
obama is full of crap and mccain is old and forgetful,,,throw these fu----s away and start again,,,LISTEN obama is bullshitting and lieing,,,cmon,,,mccain is freaking old,,,,lets bring john wayne back and kisk some a--....edont vote,,,vote for the best of the worst,,,,thank god califoria it doesnt matter because im ashamed to have voted for either of these fu-- heads,,,,they can both kiss my ass
I totally agree with you ,,but their is so much riding on his shoulder and i dont think he or people get it,,,first black president,,,economy,,,worst since the depression,,,this can bring our differences together for the first time,,,he has sooo much riding,,,if he does it and makes it through the term without getting impeached or other which i wont say it will make me proud but their is racism and it is alive and well,,,what happens if he screws up ,,,will this spread between black and white,,,what happens if something happens will this spread between black and white,,,this is the worst economy ever,,,,,he has tons to gain,,,first black president,,
saved the economy,,,brought the black and white people closer,,,changed america,,,or bought the black and white people farther apart,,,screwed the american people,,,cival rights are back,,,,riots in the streets,,,white people dont trust him,,,,black people dont trust him,,,,,sooooo much more,,,,can we handle this,,,,do we want to bet on it,,,,,does anyone,,,,you bet they do ,,,its not are own life we are gambling on its his,,,good luck all,,,,vote for the best which i dont think either are good,,,,politics suck and do what they do with dogs is what we should do with politicians ,,,,take them out back,,,,good luck all
Your totally right ,,,this election is BS,,,,they both suck and when obama because president and taxes people over 250 and companies cant pay people so they lay them off,,,the people less then 250 want the money but wont see the big picture until they are laid off,,,all this is interesting and i am digging my foxhole and sitting this through,,,mccain seems lost,,,obama is just crazy and most of the people voting for him arent seeing the picture
Your totally right ,,,this election is BS,,,,they both suck and when obama because president and taxes people over 250 and companies cant pay people so they lay them off,,,the people less then 250 want the money but wont see the big picture until they are laid off,,,all this is interesting and i am digging my foxhole and sitting this through,,,mccain seems lost,,,obama is just crazy and most of the people voting for him arent seeing the picture
OK also wanted to ask if randy is back with UFC for good,,,it seems he is fighting over their,,,and i also thought he had a deal with hdnet,,,,,HDNET and UFC ,,,who will come out winning,,,maybe both,,,cuban and zuffa both have a boatload of money,,,,,all of this is interesting,,,,we have canada,,,we are good at news for mma,,,where do we go from here,,,slice and carano out of a job,,,,bodog gone,,excite gone,,gone gone gone,,,we are not done,,,economy and with obama as president everyone with be mad as hell,,,,need to get there rage out,,,,,watching ,,,maybe obama will fight,,,you think,,,interesting fight obama vs slice,,,,winner takes on tyson,,,,now that is what im talking about ,,,winner of that match is PRESIDENT,,,,now where talking ,,,because both suck,,,go bkmp,,,,bring it on,,
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Koscheck unafraid of uphill climb Oct 20, 2008
Vera set for crucial test against Jardine Oct 17, 2008
Elite XC, which produced seven of the 10 most-watched MMA matches in U.S. history on two CBS specials in recent months, will be closing its doors at the end of the week. This leaves a roster of fighters, including top draws Kimbo Slice and Gina Carano, looking for work in a constricted environment.
Elite XC joins the International Fight League and Bodog Fight as high-profile competitors to the industry leader, the Ultimate Fighting Championship, to fold during the past year.
With deals with CBS and Showtime, the latter a major shareholder, Elite XC had the exposure the other failed challengers lacked, but lost more than $55 million in its two years of operation. Its losses included having a bad television deal in the first year with Showtime, causing them to lose money on every show; losing millions on trying, and failing, to build a website that was designed to be a destination for the MMA community; and purchasing four promotions outright and putting money into a fifth.
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One of them, the U.K.-based Cage Rage promotion, set them back $18 million in losses.
“I got a call earlier [Monday] telling me they were shutting down,” said Frank Shamrock, who was a television commentator, a main event fighter and a shareholder in the promotion.
Elite XC’s two biggest attractions, Slice and Carano, are unlikely to be moving to the sport’s highest-profile group. UFC president Dana White has repeatedly said he won’t use Slice, who made his reputation as a backyard streetfighter on YouTube videos but is not the caliber of even a mid-level MMA pro. White also has said he’s not interested in promoting women’s fighting, although Carano’s success as a draw may cause him to reconsider. Her match with Kelly Kobold two weeks ago ended up adding more new viewers than any MMA match on television in the U.S.
Several agents for fighters have been in contact all day with the UFC. Some, like welterweight champion Jake Shields, would be welcomed into the promotion.
It had been widely known that due to the losses, and the inability to raise new capital, that the Elite XC would either be sold to Showtime or be forced to fold by the end of the year. Others within the company said bankruptcy papers would be filed.
Kelly Kahl, the CBS senior executive vice president of programming operations who oversaw the three Elite XC events on the station, declined to comment on the situation.
It is not known if CBS will start its own MMA company or strike a deal with one of the two companies left standing, the UFC or Affliction. Affliction was a sponsor and co-promoter of the Oct. 4 show, paying for the Andrei Arlovski-Roy Nelson match. The other active match promotion, Strikeforce, has a late night television deal with NBC, which has had preliminary talks with the company about doing live events.
The Elite XC sale was believed to be close to completion heading into the Oct. 4 show on CBS. The show was a ratings success, beating both Major League Baseball playoff games and both major college football games in the target male 18-49 demographic, but left the brand tainted due to a controversy stemming from the main event.
CBS funded the event because Elite XC didn’t have the money to continue while negotiations for the sale continued.
Ken Shamrock, scheduled as the opponent of Slice, got into a money argument with Elite XC officials before the show, and then, to blow off steam, did a training session in which he suffered a cut above his eye that required stitches. When he returned from the hospital, the Florida State Boxing Commission wouldn’t allow him to fight.
Seth Petruzelli, a journeyman fighter in a light heavyweight preliminary match, was chosen as the fill-in opponent for the 236-pound Slice, and the scenario couldn’t have gone worse, as Slice charged in, Petruzelli threw a jab on one leg and still knocked Slice down, and finished him with punches on the ground in 14 seconds.
While CBS officials were thrilled with the ratings, a controversy over a radio interview done by Petruzelli looks to have foiled the purchase.
“The promoters kind of hinted to me and they gave me the money to stand and trade with him,” Petruzelli said two days after the fight on “The Monsters in Orlando” radio show. “They didn’t want me to take him down.
“Let’s just put it that way. It was worth my while to try and stand up and punch with him.”
The next day Petruzelli said that what he meant was that he was offered a bonus for a knockout. Jeremy Lappen the head of operations for Elite XC confirmed Petruzelli got a knockout bonus, believed to be between $20,000 and $30,000 to go along with his $35,000 guarantee and $15,000 win bonus, but not a submission bonus.
A media outcry followed, with accusations a company official tried to manipulate the fight in favor of Slice, even though it backfired, leading to an investigation by the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulations. The question was whether Petruzelli was offered a bonus to not take Slice down, which would be illegal, as opposed to a knockout bonus, which is legal and not uncommon.
With the investigation started, Showtime pulled out of negotiations and people inside the company were being told all day that Elite XC was shutting down.
Keith Kizer, executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, said Monday that he had not received word that the next show, scheduled for Nov. 8, in Reno, Nev., had been canceled.
But the website Graciefighter.com, which represents Cesar Gracie, the manager of Nick Diaz, who was scheduled to fight next month, wrote Monday night, “We are confirming that Elite XC has folded. What this means for our fans and supporters is that there will not be a Nick Diaz vs. Eddie Alvarez fight on Nov. 8.”
WOW,,WOW,,WOW,,Is that just wow,,,so many are dropping the ball and it looks like UFC is going to do nothing but be the giant of UFC,,,,,WOW<<<WOW<<<WOW,,,Now lets see who is going to be the ESPN of MMA
I tried Buying rcch through SCOTTRADE AND they wouldn't sell it to me,,,
naked shorts new law in effect dec 8th is last day to cover,,,,
http://www.sec.gov/rules/other/2008/34-58572.pdf
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2008/2008-235.htm
strong im investing in a ton of cars ,,,shut one for every company i invested in,..,pennies are pennies,,,,you know that
Pennies is a gamble strong and you know it,,,i cant tell you how many pennies i have in my portf, that have done nothing but screw me over and over again,,,im feeling used,,,,bkmp is no different,,,
connie work is good so far and waiting for tfn to come to us,,,will find out in due time,,,,i hope,,,
heard you can sell it at 00006,,,go ahead and maybe talk cardvic to go also,,,i will wait,,,nothing for me to do and nowhere to go,,,
well dude ,,,,go ahead and sell,,,guess we wont be hearing from you then,,,,i will have to wait 5 more yrs,,,people are going nowhere but on the streets,,,and looking for a job,,,100 bucks gets you nowhere,
you cant admit that you gambled by putting money into a penny stock,,,,where their are people put money into blue chips and are getting theirbutts handed to them,,,bkmp is still around,,,cry all you want i will mail you a pacafier.,..
cardvic,,,look at the darn economy,,,again quit whining,.,,,people are going to be on the street coming soon because 401 and other reasons,,,you knew this was a long shot with bkmp.,,,let it go ...
DAD,,,I agree with you and belive TFN is the supreme being at this and has blue rhino in the wings getting us into US,,,Im, all for this and MMA is going to be bigger then ever,,,economy will get worse people wont be going out,,,will be like Ali fighting many people over house helping pay for cable show,,,drinking eating having fun,,,,i love mma,,,im shocked suffa hasnt brought us aboard with how much money suffa makes bit whatever,,,,what bothers me is bkmp,,,,they have SHIT,,,,,NOTHING NOT A DARN THING,,,that is what bothers me,,
true action,,,,whats that mean,,,because bkmp hasnt had any movement
whats up with us living in ca that were are up late
check i believe aqui board will look at it i think dooglinger posted it ,,,will check also
dont know that but its good they are starting the process maybe they will scare the sh-- out of people,,,i believe this might try to jump start the market,,,,who knows
supposively dad it states that no more naked shorting across the board they have 35 day to recover after 35 they have to buy back at the current price.,.
Did anyone know that a new Law came out about Naked Shorts. It is suppose to be in effect on dec 8th,,,,sound interesting.....mid december could all this mean something
buy it at 50 cents and i will be happy
that leaves me below what i bought it at,,,what about divis
All this is interesting,,,Trying to figure this out,,,I wont hold my breath for christmas ,,,heard it before,,,,
Donald Trump Endorses 'Fighting Fedor'
Sam Caplan
MMA Expert
POSTED: October 16, 2008 - 11:21 pm
CATEGORIES: MMA
New York, NY - The announcement that M-1 Global officials were moving ahead with a reality television vehicle featuring former PRIDE heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko has been known for several months. As such, Thursday’s press conference at the Trump Tower in the heart of New York to “announce”Fighting Fedor is a “go” was hardly an Earth-shattering event.
However, seeing celebrity millionaire Donald Trump front and center as the project’s unofficial show-runner at the start of the presser has brought a new dimension to the concept.
Just how involved he’ll be with the show’s pitch remains to be seen, but Trump can still be a tremendous asset even if his role proves to be nothing more than that as of figurehead. Having the Trump name involved may have already proved to be a game changer, as reporters from NBC Sports, FOX News, Extra, and several other major media outlets will bring the project added exposure in the U.S. thanks to Trump’s presence at the presser.
The show, a creation of former PRIDE USA Vice President and current M-1 Global Vice President Jerry Millen, is already drawing interest from “huge” players within the U.S. television landscape, according to both Millen and M-1 Global President Vadim Finkelstein.
Finkelstein, who doubles as Fedor’s manager, indicated that they are already analyzing offers and that they expect to make a decision “soon” about which television outlets they’ll partner with.
While a U.S. distribution partner is still unknown, a few new details came to light during the course of the press conference.
Despite the fact that casting heavyweight hopefuls is a difficult task reflected by the fact that the UFC hasn’t touched the weight class on The Ultimate Fighter since season two, Millen told FiveOuncesOfPain.com that the show will be casting fighters from the U.S., Russia, Japan, Brazil, and many other countries as well. By selecting from a Global talent pool, M-1 officials expressed confidence that they will be able to put together a solid field of talent and Millen revealed to us that he’s been contacted by several well-known fighters looking for a shot at being on the show.
The show will be filmed out of the Red Devil gym in St. Petersburg, Russia, with the gym lacking many of the creature comforts that U.S. fans have become accustomed to seeing on TUF. The date in which the show will begin production has yet to be finalized, but Millen indicated that the show could begin filming as early as April.
Affliction Vice President Tom Atencio also stated that the winner of the show will receive their shot at Fedor during an Affliction-promoted event. He also indicated that the show could be used as a “feeder” with eliminated fighters from the show that make a strong impression possibly fighting for Affliction in the future.
Im tired of all these CEO's screwing over the little man.,...take them out back and do what some people do to a sick dog,,,,cmon ffgo,,,let's move,,,
webprods havent seen you around,.,,,whats up
we all have are opinions but if ufc or hdnet bought you never know what can happen
cardvic...I still dont believe TFN is dead,,,,Do you really know how big MMA is becoming and how TFN will be bought up,,,,I believe that and i think it is soon,,,with what is happening with mma and with the economy,,,people will be sitting in their chairs at home because they wont have money to do anything except bring people to their houses split the cost for a mma fight and drink beer with their wife and kids in the other rooms,,,I believe that possibly tfn has already been bought and the other people are getting things prepared for the take over,,,maybe that is why people are leaving,,,gooooo bkmp,,,,we will see something,,,
Hi Terry,
George Burger is no longer CEO
Anthony Cicione is GM
-----Original Message-----
From: terry
Sent: October-08-08 4:28 PM
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Dear Sir.
Could you tell me if George Burger is still our CEO. If not can you tell me
what is going on behind the scenes at TFN.
Thank You,
Terry
who is to say where the bottom of anything here,,,govt has tried to get market and crap to go up and nothing,,,this was due,,,wall street,,,greedy people,,,housing and others did this to us and its us that are helping people out and getting screwed on the flip side,,,someone give me a 500,000 resort freaking massage,,,after govt gives aig an 85 billion helping hand now today another 35 b,,,wow,,,i own 1 million shares,,,when lower will buy a million more,,go htog
I must say this sucks sooo much,,,I cant believe this is sooo damn low,,,,wow are the mm's taking this down,,,,if they are they should be ashamed of theirselves,,they are pathetic,,,,,long term fine short term no ideal
i recently looked at the website TFN it keeps getting better,,,we now have pinnacle as a sponser and some protein powder or something didnt look to much into it,,,did anyone see the MMA group of fighters...I hope everyone is hanging in with the market and housing,,,we have sooo much more before we hit the bottom,,,maybe BKMP/TFN can get us on track,,,,has anyone contacted two blue rhino,,,take care,,,,
Yea we will all be broke with what is happening in the economy unless we sit with some of these stocks and relax...I like HTOG alot,,,this will be good for my retirement,,,I LIKE IT
I personally must say it's good to be receiving volume,,,,,even 1,400 hudred is better then nothing and who is buying and why,,what do they think they know,,,or what do they know....lets make millions so i can go golfing,,,,,gooooo bkmp
loggin,,,your a funny man,,,warning for the last two years or however long about this stock,,,what now you want your return over helping people,,,,give me a break,,,,warn all you want,,,it shouldn't be about the money you poor innocent person lost,,,,give me a freaking break,,,,,go bkmp for owning 14.8% of TFN....
everyone needs to relax, are economy sucks and if they did put news out it might not go up where we would want it to go, lets let the dust settle then put out news,,, long and strong
just bought a measly 20,000 up to 800.000 ,,,i like this company and just finished conversation with jack,,,tie-ins will be soon, we will be making close to 500,000 month,,,i wish i had alot of money because really believe in htog,,,people are scared to death what is happening to our economy,,,i dont think this is about the company,,,if you can hold on for awhile do so,,,these next two years are going to be crucial to all of us,,,if cant handle the wait get out,,,NOW