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SU, some very, very interesting events have occurred today!!
Viking, I'll ask you one more time, if you discovered that the technology has not, and can not, perform as advertised would you still want the company to move forward with JB?
Of course, your answer should be "No" if you're honest.
Do you think that there are investors THAT DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH and just want the company to move forward for the opportunity to recover some of their investment?
Viking, "empty your cup" and read the Barry Minkow story i posted below.
Question, if you were to discovery that the tech is tainted would you still want to see this company continue forward?
Xeno, there's no arguing with your statistical analysis of this Horn Packaing/Poteet/Huzella cowinky dink.
10,000,000 to 1 smells fishy to me.
But what's even more suspicious is how you made Roberta squirm! LOL
"I'd think Mr. Minkow would be of great interest here, given how good he was at what he did and at such a young age. Pity for a few peeps and their companies that he decided t owalk the straight and narrow."
I 100% agree SU! Barry Minkow grew up in my backyard. Below is a synopsis of his story for those that aren't familar with him. IT READS VERY SIMILAR TO THE LOCH/CDEx STORY!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Minkow (THIS IS A MUST READ BY ALL LOCH/CDEx LONGS)
Mr. Minkow help found the FRAUD DISCOVERY INSTITUTE based in Sandy Eggo(TM- Stock_distributor), California. The FDI website was posted on another board by Fauxter who suggested the CDEx Longs consider their services. I 100% agree!!! (once again)
http://www.frauddiscovery.net/services.html
Investigative reporting such as interviewing CDEX's various customers does not require a technical background- just a good nose for diggin'.
"They should hire you or XENO to investigate for them. Most PIs would be handicapped by lack of technicals."
A very good idea Sir and it would save them money. Xeno and I would require very little investigating time to tell the Longs what that don't want to hear! LOL
Their best move would be to hire a technical expert to independently evaluate the merits of product claims advertised by CDEx. They need to prove that CDEX knowingly made false and/or misleading claims, or failed to disclose material information concerning the veracity of the technology.
Even a private investigator would be better than a lawyer. A PI could contact the hospitals, the Army/Navy, the MSHP to determine if CDEx knew the shortcomings of the technology and continued to falsely advertise it.
As it stands, the Loch/CDEX insiders have plausible deniablity and a lawyer would prove worthless. As Barb always stated, "We tried, we really did try."
If they want to go after the bad guys, investigate the technology and the customers that have used the products first. That is where they will obtain the damning evidence which is needed before any thought of a legal action.
Allowing people like Pennstreet and others to make Longs believe the technology is worth saving is the rope that will hang them and propagate the scam. I believe that is the purpose of pennstreet posting on the boards- to keep hope alive and prevent a legal assault by angry investors.
Looks like the Loch/CDEx Longs are pledging funds for an action. One thing they won't want is 100% further dilution. Unfortunately, they will have zero choice in the matter IF they're going to take the "save-the-tech" stance.
Beautiful play by all the scamsters.
Last time the sharholders would do anything just to get their shares distributed and get the Poteet back.
This time the shareholders will do anything just to see MP stepdown and get Poteet back.
The compromise:
JB becomes CEO with 100% dilution
FOR
MP stepping down and Poteet returning.
SAME EXACT BLUEPRINT AS LAST TIME.
"You can take that to the back"
- Barreta
"I have enjoyed the visits with the management of the companies you boys keep bringing into focus as connections that don't exist."
Contrary to what you may think, I speak for myself.
If you want to refute a post, please make sure you're addressing the correct poster.
Now, on a "positive" note, I like the rest of your post (although technically incorrect), at least you're trying to communicate. LOL
Crow, has it ever occurred to you that MP, Gemini and JB are ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
MP wouldn't give anyone the CEO position that he didn't trust. Likewise, MP would never signed the Gemini Agreement, with the possibility of Gemini taking control of the company, if he didn't trust Winters.
If that's the case, which I'm convinced it is, then JB will be a shoe in and it's all one happy family just as it was during the last rescamization.
What I don't understand is why Pennstreet is wasting his time on the truth tellers' board (other than the fact he lost all credibility on the Long board with his multi-alias antics).
"So does it surprise you that many of us, including yourself, were fooled by Boone, Baker, and Philips???"
LOL!
Flash back to when Kidinsight used the same line except it was, "... many of us including MP were fooled by Boone and Baker."
"MP was just an ordinary shareholder like you and I"
LMAO!!
Viking, look at all the effort the SCAM ARTIST have gone thru the past 10+ years to hide the truth.
Amazing ain't it?
Or do you believe all the lies?
Must be important for you to go to all that trouble. It might even be worth fabricating yet another email?
Did you get the date correct this time? LOL
Not only that Xeno, according to pennstreet, the new CEO wants to bring back the same scientist that's been working on the same technology for over SIXTEEN (16) years.
What the heck, as long as they don't mislead investors and disclose that FACTS.
They can say, "sure (TM- Harry) our scientisits have been working on this technology for the past 16 years, but "we" believe with $10 million more and five more years we can get the tech to work as we've always advertised."
"Except for the remote, open-air chemical sensing, they really tuli shooted you with that one! Our new team will never make claims that we can't back up, it will be a new atmospherte of openess and... blah, blah, blah...."
"The term defamation of character is often used to describe accusations of slander, libel or both. Slander involves verbal derogatory statements, while libel involves written ones. In a court of law, the plaintiff pursuing the lawsuit would charge defamation of character to cover any form of false or damaging allegations."
Oh I get it, like that post I've archived where kidinsight writes "I know diddy (false) and he's a bad person."
Got it.
Proof of Life. Absence of Malice. What next Roberta? LOL
Same blueprint, different day.
Maybe you should become a fiction writer.
"...The reason I believe he (JB) has the proof of lie for this company, is because of the money that many have put up, because of the science team that will come in, because of the ground team that will come in, and because his BOD is exceptional... blah, blah, blah..."
The truth slips out by mistake.
"...Robert Stewart and Mari Stassi are inappropriate representatives of the general shareholders' interests in Loch-Harris due to NUMEROUS past business dealings of Mr. Stewart with both Loch-Harris and CDEx, Inc. in which Mr. Stewart has received FINDERS' FEES"
I wonder what those people engaged in "business dealings" think of Mr. Stewart now?
Is he planning to work with the "new team" to continue the same "business dealings"?
WARNING WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! DANGER! DANGER!
"These are good facts one can rely on:"
Loch Harris was a scam.
CDEX was/is a scam.
Thousands upon thousands of honest investors lost their money believing the lies of the scamsters.
Pennstreet wants the scam to continue.
Pennstreet will post his nonsense on this board solely for his personal gain.
Many honest folks that have been observing this scam post the truth, not for personal gain, but to expose the truth and prevent innocent people from further rip-off.
The honest people telling the truth do it because its the right thing to do as American citizens.
Pennstreet is an extremely BAD STORY TELLER.
[B]THESE ARE GOOD FACTS THAT ONE CAN RELY ON[/B]
"Putting a truer face on it....It appears that you deliberately participated in the deception."
YES!!!!
Pennstreet and Cappy are a tag team, doing now what they both did during the loch/CDEx rescamazation (TM- d4diddy).
Exactly the same blueprint.
"Cdex has a good chance with JB at the top."
BWHAAAAAAAhahahahahahah....
Let MP take a back seat and pull the strings while JB becomes the new front man.
Yawn......
"there is really no such thing as a linear process except in what one could say is over a small distance locally.:
Although it doesn't theoretically exist, it is a useful approximation for very small segments of the universe.
No true straight lines in space-time.
No true Euclidean Geometry.
No true Newtonian Physics.
And God didn't make little green apples,
and it don't rain in Minneapolis in the summer time.
There's no such thing as Dr. Blair, ID2, and Valimed,
no nursery rhymes.
"we will sell them that secret method. Mankind deserves to use it, and who better to bring it to them than CDEX? That coulomb counter will save COUNTLESS lives."
Hey Crow, I sell them coulomb counters or coulometers. Ours use dual-slope linear integration. The "dual slope" feature works like the Dolby idea; it cancels out noise and minimizes errors from temperature coefficients of the resistors and dielectric absorption of the capacitors.
Extremely accurate and it saves lives too, just like CDEx valimed.
OSEM, Inc.- Optical Systems Engineering and Manufacturing.
H. Blair
W. Poteet
H. Cauthen
THE ARIZONA DAILY STAR, 1995
"Poteet was going to sue the Star (for simply mentioning his name in the article)"
- Kidinsight
"absence of malice"
- Kidinsight
"Mercy"
I'll have to post that gem again.
The SEC investigation and the Boyz CTA claiming that they were mislead by Blair's false credentials.
Enter WP- the new improved inventor.
As I read the Sandia document I'm getting a stronger and stronger smell of a rat.
And what Capnmike posted as a "must read" is also very important as pointed out by Xeno.
Capnmike's list of WP's technical experience has NOTHING to do with spectral analytical chemistry. ZIPPO. It is irrelevant and simply demonstrates WP's lack of experience and expertise in this field.
I have some other Sandia documents and newspaper reports I've posted in the past. I'll repost them so readers* can compare and contrast with the Sandia report posted by Xeno. The time frame of all these events "track well" and in a very unfavorable way for LOCH/CDEx.
* Watch carefully as Pennstreet comes on board with both barrels ablazing, posting the same ridiculous arguments that Kidinsight posted a few years ago. LOL!!
"Why did not Wade come out with the "truth" then instead of allowing MP to publish the BOOLSHEET retirement story?"
Answer: For the same reason he didn't come out with the truth in 1999- early 2000 when his LOCH HARRIS R&D reports were fradulently misquoted, he was just too darn busy in the lab to know that honest investors were being ripped-off for HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF $$$$$.
So said Ontheedge/kidinsight?pennstreet/Roberta.
Nice find Xeno. Looks interesting and thorough, I'll read thru it later. Glancing, I didn't see Dr. Wade Poteet mentioned anywhere, but the work was performed at the same time that "Dr. Blair" and Dr. Poteet were both (together) reportedly working closely with Sandia.
FACT!!!
LOL!! All in the family!
"...that shoe fits you like a glass slipper diddy."
Don't get frisky with me roberta.
Robert, you lied with one of your very first posts as "pennstreet" so nothing you say can be considered true.
You blew it Bucko.
Demmo, yes he did. Roberta also uses "mercy". But the most revealing is his general nonsensical posts trying to defend the obvious scam activity.
Like I said, I'm 99.9% certain that pennstreet is the same as ontheedge/kidinsight/mika/aussiekang/tbeezer... etc.
Here's what so many of the Longs, clinging to hope, haven't figured out yet.
"I still believe that MP could have made one heck of a lot more money for himself his friends and us if the products were really ready to take off, than by just sneaking away and hoping for scraps from more suckers."
Keep on that thought Harry. Now what does it suggest? Why would he not make a ton of change selling a product that "saves lives' instead of his weasel ways?
THEY KNOW THE SHORTCOMINGS OF THE TECH.
Keep those details secret and one has PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY.
RAIDERMAN FOR CEO!!! At least he's honest- yet naive to a fault.
Anyone that thinks the tech can be tweaked is naive.
And why bring WP back? What CEO would do that after he's had OVER 16 YEARS TO develop a product that works AS ADVERTISED!
ANSWER: An incompetent CEO without experience that is nothing more than the next front man.
According to pennstreet they've already got it all figured out. Come in with 15 people investing $500K into a company that's $3,000,000 in debt.
Brilliant.
LOL!!! Roberta stick his foot in his mouth ONCE AGAIN!!
"Any munny that comes into the CDEx treasury is claimable to fulfill such judgements and any REAL law firm accounting department will seek payment out of any funds available.
"
Unreal!!
And MP is going to just hand over the books to JB, someone he hasn't KNOWN FOR YEARS?
Just like The Boyz handed over Loch to MP, "just a regular shareholder like you and I".
Toda en la familia.
Will Mark Baker be advising the new CEO behind closed doors?
The new and improved last post. No, not like capnmike's last posts.
Does the OTCBB stop trading a scamco when it becomes a scamcoe?
"dangling participles"
Them are good eats with a little salt and pepper.