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is it possible to get a short squeeze like last year..
this can move up quickly...
next financials coming soon.. go drys
serious dilution here....in my opinion.
OMVS's liabilities weigh in as debt.....
omvs using latest pr's to mask the ongoing dilution...
would be nice to know what the actual os shares are now since financials..
people still unsure of the merger and share structure details...
what was released in last financials 36 million deriatives and only $3100.00 on hand what happened to the money...
seems peculiar in my opinion
per 10 k
which is a legal document now
Plan of Operations
We believe we do not have adequate funds to fully execute our business plan for the next twelve months unless we obtain additional funding. However, should we not raise this capital, we will allocate our funding to first assure that all State, Federal and SEC requirements are met.
As of February 28, 2017, we had cash on hand of $ 3,100.
We intend to pursue capital through public or private financing, as well as borrowing and other sources in order to finance our business activities. We cannot guarantee that additional funding will be available on favorable terms, if at all. If adequate funds are not available, then our ability to continue our operations may be significantly hindered.
43 million plus outstanding now, more shares to convert coming..in my opinion
in my opnion promissary notes are in the 10k..
future dilution is stated in 10k...
as per the 10k omvs had $ 3100.00 on hand in febuary...
that's 4 months ago...
as per the 10k omvs will need additional funding thru securities and or additional funding...toxic as no conventioal lender will touch OMVS..
especially after seeing it financials...in my opinion..
my prior posts of a reverse merger was taken off SEC site...
so that isn't my opinion...but a reputable and legal site for said reverse merger regs and procedures...
lol...in my opinion many will try and spin the negative 10k and ongoing and future dilution into something positive..
yes the CEO has been deceptive, using the pr's to prop up the dilution..
what else will CEO be deceptive about, in my opinion many have questions now...
so is it or isn't it a reverse merger, nope..in my opinion...
so the structure of the new company is the big question now, and when and if RAd is acquired by omvs, there isa significent amount of debt plus what will be added per 10k statement of omvs...
additional monies will be needed to move forward, securities offer in plain english, additional financing if it becomes available, toxic financing..
one must read the 10k adequately...especially the cautionary and forward statements.. in my opinion....
OMVS and RAD need to disclose before merger completes in my opinion
Disadvantages of a Reverse Merger
Managers must conduct appropriate diligence regarding the profile of the investors of the public shell company. What are their motivations for the merger? Have they done their homework to make sure the shell is clean and not tainted? Are there pending liabilities (such as those stemming from litigation) or other "deal warts" hounding the public shell? If so, shareholders of the public shell may merely be looking for a new owner to take possession of these deal warts. Thus, appropriate due diligence should be conducted, and transparent disclosure should be expected (from both parties).
If the public shell's investors sell significant portions of their holdings right after the transaction, this can materially and negatively affect the stock price. To reduce or eliminate the risk that the stock will be dumped, important clauses can be incorporated into a merger agreement such as required holding periods. It is important to note that, as in all merger deals, the risk goes both ways. Investors of the public shell should also conduct reasonable diligence on the private company, including its management, investors, operations, financials and possible pending liabilities (i.e., litigation, environmental problems, safety hazards, labor issues etc.
wow ugly 10 k and a stop sign on ticker
that's a nice legal document now... in my opinion
43 million plus outstanding shares, far cry from the 17 million posted on this board...
as CEO stated there was no ongoing dilution, well we can see how credible he is...
the notes stacked up for future conversion and payable is a big concern..
one must read the 10k and look at the overall picture and not the emotional part...
one really must read the going concern statement...
$3100 on hand in febuary, that is 3 months ago...
OMVS has stated that in order to move ahead it will need to seek financing through securities offers, and attempt other financing avenues, that being said toxic financing....
OMVS needs to do a reverse merger sooner rather than later, and then rad inherits omvs debt and liabilities..
RAd as it stands now only has 1.5 million projected revenue, may sign another distributorship before end of month...
Rad needs to file financials publically before a reverse merger can be effected for DUE DILIGENCE.....
the structure of the company is not known yet and what share structure is,many unknowns..
financial and company plans need to be disclosed before a merger completes...
Basically dilution is ongoing, as well as future conversions, the CEO has stated there was no dilution....
OMVS's history of loi's is questionable....
there is a new stack of promissary notes for future conversions...
one must pay attention to the whole legal document..the 10k.
in my opinion
bid id under .05 for OMVS...
looks like many getting out or averaging down in my opinion...
omvs yet to release financials and has stop-sign on trading ticker..
would even be sweet for someone to post a level 2 screenshot before open..in my opinion..
Really would like to see what the BID ASK is with the stop-sign...
Was kinda hoping to see some financials by omvs..in my opinion
in my opinion...
would be insightful to see someone post evidence of a trade today just to show how supportive of omvs they are...
albeit it doesn't have to show personal info but pertinent...
that really would be awesome in my opinion..
especially if it showed how much of a position they held..in my opinion..
better to back up what one says by facts right...in my opinion
in my opinion..
the trading activity especiallly the buying oppurtunity for OMVS is seriously hampered with the stop-sign...
in my opinion
the ability to pick up cheap shares is also hampered especially when you hear someone saying they are buying..
would like to know how they can buy when most brokerages will not let a buy trade go thru..in my opinion...
OMVS, let's just see if financials are released...
in my opinion OMVS will release a pr before releasing financials to mask them....
buying and selling activity will be scrutinized before stop sign is taken away...as well as other documents OMVS releases...in my opinion...
Doesn't happen like that...
OMVS is late in financials which is why the stop sign is up...
in my understanding that will be there at least for 30 days while omvs needs to file financials and reregistar under the otc conditions..
something like that but it doesn't happen overnight...in my opinion...
the stop sign also restricts some brokers and exchanges from the ability to buy....in my opnion
The buying activity will seriously drop now and selling activity pick up...
the delay on omvs financials is probably the only reason for it's stop sign...in my opinion
omvs needs to release financials among other things now to remove the stop sign,just need to read the otc regulations to see what that entails..in my opinion...
if omvs is unable to release the adequate information it will be sent to the greys which is the worst thing for a company to trade at...in my opinion.....
expect a sell-off today or attempt for some to get out if OMVS doesn't release any info in my opinion...
if financials are released soon thru SEC and OTC they become legal DOCUMENTS and then OMVS may move ahead as a company or not....in my opinion
66800 traded so far...
in my opinion people are loading up on the downward trend...
in my opinion many are waiting on omvs's financials
in my opinion
was hoping that you would answer my question on the spreadsheet pertaining to rad without any financial info as of yet...
in my opinion the spreadsheet can be construed as misleading as no one knows the share structure upon the completion of the merger or financials..
but rad will need to put out some form of financial before the merger in my opinion..
omvs hasn't released financials yet..
you don't value a company on projected revenue...
you value a company on it's balance sheet as well as as it's performance...in my opinion...
omvs's balance sheet is very poor..
Rad will inherit omvs debt upon completion of merger if any in my opinion...
projected revenue and what a companies actually does at cost for that revenue is the value of a company in my opinion..
so no, no dollar land here...
in my opinion if omvs merges with rad, I would say at best as it stands value would be in the .01-02 range..
in my opinion
pr's has stated their projected revenue and contracts...
A question back at you in kind as spreadsheet on omvs ihub page...
if you could explain that without any of rad's financial also...
how does one get that info if it isn't out there yet..in my opinion..
omvs hasn't released financials yet and overdue in my opinion..
in my opinion
projected revenues doesn't represent profit or value..
at best it just represents money coming in to fund a company...
What is important is margins and cost, and do they outweigh the revenue..
if so then company need to figure out how to cut margins and costs..
in omvs's case, no revenue to speak of and in debt, merging with RAd at one point..
RAD also seems to have problems with it's balance sheet and costs, which in my opinion needs to merge with omvs in order to go public..
the necessity
to seek funding....in my opinion..
in my opinion the merger will happen sooner than later
as it stands right now omvs is overdue on financials..
looking at rads projected revenues and their costs compared to it RAD would need additonal funding to stay afloat, hence the need for toxic financing and securities offer that will take place if merger goes through..in my opinion...
RAD is in need of funding now and it seems cannot do it by conventional means...in my opinion...
what needs to happen is OMVS needs to release financials, inform the investors and public on the structure of the new company,how it intends to seek funding etc...in my opinion...
with a low float of 17 million as stated, with the amount of shares traded the pps should be moving up not down.. in my opinion..
yet it seems more sellers than buyers is causing a downtrend which majority of time represents dilution..in my opinion..
omvs's financials due within the next few day...
in my opinion they will shed some light on share structure and amount of dilution that appears to be taking place...
Sellers outwiegh the buying activity which majority of the time represents dilution..
if dilution is present, which CEO has stated is not would signify that management is deceptive and at best whether the merger would actually go thru...in my opinion
omvs has history of reneging on LOI's and to this one we shall soon see in my opinion...
OMVS is in debt severely and needs to merge with RAD who also seems to be in need of funding.. in my opinion...
until proven otherwise especially with financials in my opinion
In my opinion,
Omvs is heavily in debt as well as rad....
When the 2 companies merge if at all the new company will have to do a securities offer as well as toxic financing which will result in more dilution which is ongoing now in my opinion...
Projected revenues for RAD is 1.5 million...
Rad has stated it has contracted 15 robots, the 1. 5 million revenue equates to 100k per robot...
Once these 15 robots are completed rad projected revenues aren'the enough to keep the company funded thus ending up in the red, like omvs...
Hence the resulting toxic financing will result in more dilution requiring the new company to effect a reverse split to repeat the process...rinse and repeat in my opinion...
Omvs hasn't released financials yet and is overdue...
Both omvs and rad are in need of funds severely and thus in my opinion the merger may happen sooner...
As well as omvs has notes due and I believe diluting heavily now..in my opinion
RAD has projected 1.5 million in revenue..
As it stands it has 15 robots to assemble and deliver...
that equates to 100k per robot to assemble and deliver, which in the end leaves RAD without money...
RAD need to get some serious contracts and cut costs exttremely and work on it's margins...
omvs for all arguments is bankrupt right now in my opinion, which in turn RAD will be once it merges with OMVS, thus a securities offer and toxic financing will have to take place in order for RAD to move ahead, hence the need for RAD to go public as it can not get conventional financing as it stands...in my opinion...
the rise and fall in pps recently is dilution in my opinion...
only when and if OMVS does a timely filing of financials, which if it doesn't will put omvs in defauult on certain notes...
financials will clear up the ongoing dilution as to how much has been done..in my opinion....
either way 2 months away is the merger deadline and omvs's history of LOI's merger may not happen...in my opinion
financials will clarify alot..
yes keep averaging down...that's where some make money...
but after averaging down and then a reverse split, not so much money to be made..
omvs is heading that way in my opinion...
.0485 is .04 by the way...in my opinion...
you obviously didn't see the days range in my opinion...
but you will be able to tomorrow..
this will drop 2 or more each day, then financials it will crash..
in my opinion...
financials will be filed per SEC regs and that becomes a legal documnet...
so we shall soon see in my opinion...
either way if merger goes thru expect more drops until a reverse split is needed..in my opinion
omvs is in dire straights now in default on notes...in my opinion
unless they already converted
3 days or less before finacials are due...
today was down 2 and tested .04...
relative little strength to move it up , tomorrow will be another down day as dilution continues in my opinion...
lack of any real investing buyers is weakening pps...
omvs financials will need to show something dramatic or expect a huge drop soon..in my opinion..
that's why financials would shed some light now...
but omvs is overdue, has but little time left and by some notes payable, failure to timely file financials results in default...
either way omvs is in dire straights until the merger which isn't due to happen for another 2 months...maybe sooner...
Rad financially doesn't look good as far as margins and costs either..
can't wait to see how all this plays out...
which in my opinion some on this board believe otherwise..
but beyond that...
RAD has 1.5 million revenue in contracts right now...
has only 15 projected to deliver...
that equates to 100k per robot delivered..
RADs margins and cost are way out there....
which iswhy RAD and omve need to merge is RAD is in bad need of funding, hence it will offer securities and toxic financing right out the gate...after the merger if it completes....
omvs right now is in debt and has notes due, hence in my belief ongoing dilution now...
we shall soon see
take a closer look, it says smp on them...
don't see any rad marking, except a few.....
again this is where deceptive and misleading practices come into play...
omvs is still a shell without financials, may be merging with RAD...
time will tell but all one has to do is look closer at pics and they clearly show smp robots...just RAD as distributor...
just look at pics..
plain as day....
in my opinion there will be a major dump today...as there is no real investors here....
good luck all
exactly..
which is what I have been showing..
many aren't sure what they are really investing in but the pr's and tweets...
which is why I have been stating dilution....
omvs is in debt and rad will be as well, once the merger completes and that's if more dilution will follow as both companies are in dire need of funds....
which is why I have been stating read cautionary statements...
omvs's history with LOI's is questionable also...
pumped up for the dilution, now on it's downward trend in my opinion...
best to do some serious DD before really investing
Buy low sell high...
In my opinion the downward trend continues tomorrow...
If for some reason, financials are released and look good...
Well the downward spiral may break...
But in all actuality without omvs's release of financials this will test the .03 and .04 range if not lower...
Profit takers have come and gone now the dilution will overtake the buyers in my opinion...
Maybe a nice pr...
Maybe might hear something from Verizon or nvidia, now that may be shocking...
Thats actually funny...
I worked for Amazon for 15 years in their It tech department..
After 2 years I was awarded shares and options which I retain to this day...a very healthy package...
With that I do have knowledge of tech and products as well as investing...
Omvs is a shell with plenty of debt due...
Rad has a contract for up to 15 robots with 1.5 mil. Projected revenue...whereas after all the robots are made and completed in July and delivered rad will be broke...
But after the Securities offer and toxic financing will dilute your shares down to at least .001 then they'll reverse split...and do it again...
Rad's tech isn't out of this world and several companies are ahead of rad...
Google just showcased one...
Other companies
Knightscope
Cobalt...
Among others...
Yes rad is in the wilderness phase..in my opinion
If rad is using nvidia products that is customer based,
like Intel processors in a laptop made by Toshiba isn't a partnership but customer based...
Partnership implies that nvidia is partners with rad as nvidia is backing the manufacturing of rad robots and helping with the tech...
That isn't happening...
Deceptive summaries and misleading info in investing is in violation of SEC...
Again if nvidia learns that RAD is promoting that nvidia is partnered with said company without nvidia's consent than that is libelous..
That opens up all kinds of legal issues besides the SEC..
So it's questionable what is going on here and maybe soon hear from nvidia or Verizon on what type of relationship exists..
In my opinion that needs some clarification, but to go out and say that one is partnered with a company when it isn't is deceptive and illegal...making the company that is promoting it libel..
Not out of my element I understand the SEC rules and regs...real well
Which is why most investors don't make money...
Buying on the whim and pr...
Speculation and investing, go hand in hand sometimes...
Whether you buy in low and make mega money...which in my opinion isn't going to happen here...
Smart investors make money by not getting emotional on a ticker...
If waiting a couple days for financials and then making a speculation on them than that is a different story...
As it is financials are overdue and the trend is downward...
Tomorrow you may be buying high and selling low because it's heading down...
A lot of companies hype and promote only to tank...
Majority of the time it is because of dilution...
Omvs is severely in debt has debt due and notes...
Financials will clarify that in my opinion..
I am sure you will be able to buy back in around .03 to .04 real soon and then again under that to average down...
In my opinion...
Omvs had 15 days to post financials from due date,after being tardy..
So how many days left now?
Let's put it in simpler terms...
Rad has 1.5 million in revenue predicted, contracted...yet to see...
Then look at margins and cost...
How much does it cost to manufacture and then deliver a robot..
As stated in the pr's rad has 1.5 million in contracts which equates to 15 robots as contacted to be delivered...
So each robot costs up to 100k to manufacture and deliver...
That's leaves 0 profit for RAD unless they work on margins and cost...
In my opinion..
Maybe someone can clarify as to how much it takes for RAD to build a robot...factual that is..
Would be nice to see some actual proof of those contradictions besides heresay...in my opinion...
Cautionary statements are there for a reason...
I see no real money investing here especially with pr's stating big revenue coming, which by the way isn't omvs's until said merger is done and complete...
Those big contracts are only hearsay until proven, yet to see any proven contracts for RAD yet either...hearsay...
Rad is backlogged with only 15 robots which says a lot about their manufacturabilty ...not due out until july..that's stated in pr...
It's always questionable when a OTC ticker rises dramatically then tumbles in kind...
Especially when financials are overdue...
That signifies dilution, dramatically in my opinion...
Whether I have a position or not in this company does not mean I cannot state my opinions as this is a public forum here...
So I post my opinions regardless whether they are negative or positive...
Now if I had some real factual DD besides pr's tweets and hearsay...maybe I might post something positive..
But no financials...
No merger yet...
Only overdue financials, an LOI and pr's...
Wait until it happens then we shall see in my opinion..
That does not imply partnership, only that RAD is using nvidia based products...customer based
2 different things, and can be viewed as deceptive statements by OMVS, which is in violation of SEC rules among others which is a liabilty...
Read cautionary statements...
If both were partnering you would have definately seen an influx of money not dilution in my opinion...most definately
As far as Verizon, RAD participated as well as others...
Which again is the reason for no big money jumping in...
Majority of Investing community isn't investing here for a reason...
If rad and omvs, if after merger completes, needs to be at around $5 for any real investors to jump in...in my opinion...
Also needs to hear from said companies to legitimize partnerships etc...for any real investors to jump in, in my opinion...
So for a company to say it has partnerships, which it doesn't is deceptive and illegal..
Which opens up a whole nother can of worms...
Always best to read cautionary statements, which though doesn't apply to deception or misguidings by said companies...
So some legalities maybe in play here also...
This is my opinion
Simply put a reverse merger, though the loi and pr's are vague on this...
As I have been stating dilution to which you agree in my opinion...yes the T-trades strong indicated of dilution as well as trading activity, hence the CEO has been deceptive in my opinion, especially saying there was none and clearly is...
The quick rise and then downward trend coupled with late financials indicates more than a little dilution....
As far as whether the reverse merger completes omvs's history with loi's is questionable..
Whether something is brewing with Verizon and nvidia,
1..Nvidia, what is stated
Robotic Assistance Devices (RAD), an innovator in artificial intelligence and robotics and master distributor for SMP Robotics Systems Corp. has announced it is advancing its complete line of next-generation autonomous robotic guards with the NVIDIA Jetson embedded computing platform....
Simply put it is using the nvidia Jetson platform...
Not partnering but customer based as using nvidia products which is 2 different things..
2, Verizon which is stated...
HENDERSON, NV--(Marketwired - Jun 8, 2017) - On the Move Systems ( OTC PINK : OMVS ) is pleased to announce that Robotic Assistance Devices (RAD - www.roboticassistancedevices.com) presented at the Verizon Operation Convergent Response Conference to over 100 Verizon clients. RAD joined first responders, law enforcement, military, private sector experts and leading tech companies to demonstrate that its SMP S5 Security Guard Robot can play an integral role in disaster and security response scenarios.
The two-day event showcased the ability of RAD's technology to:
Provide high-level security to affected areas, relieving manpower for other purposes.
Add medical triage support through autonomous or remote control delivery and pickup of medical supplies
Provide force multiplication for authorities to issue commands using long-range paging and two-way voice
Provide safe "eyes and ears" in hostage or active-shooter situations.
"This event was an opportunity for RAD to showcase how integral a security guard robot can be to disaster-response teams in a variety of situations from natural disaster, to active shooter and beyond," said Steve Reinharz, Founder and President of RAD. "As emergency agencies continue to refine their response procedures, RAD looks forward to being a part of the collaboration to ensure the safety of our communities."
RAD expects to deploy robots to end users in July. To date RAD has commitments for 15 robots for total contract values of approximately $1.5 million. OMVS is continuing its due diligence process on RAD as part of the binding LOI that was entered into last week for the purchase of 100% of RAD by OMVS. It is anticipated that the acquisition will close before August 10, 2017.
RAD currently has a sales pipeline of over 50 Fortune 500 companies and over 25 qualified dealers and distributors that have a combined customer base of more than 35,000 end user corporations.
For further information please refer to www.sec.gov
CAUTIONARY DISCLOSURE ABOUT FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS
This release contains "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended and such forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Statements in this news release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking statements" that are based on current expectations and assumptions. Forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the statements, including, but not limited to, the following: the ability of On the Move Systems to provide for its obligations, to provide working capital needs from operating revenues, to obtain additional financing needed for any future acquisitions, to meet competitive challenges and technological changes, and other risks. On the Move Systems undertakes no duty to update any forward-looking statement(s) and/or to confirm the statement(s) to actual results or changes in On the Move Systems expectations.
Verizon is not partnering but only allowed RAD in the event as well as other participants,
Also read the cautionary statement at the end...
Rad has contracts for 15 robots totaling 1.5 million, so that statement suggests that RAD needs 100 K to build each robot...
Rad is in talks with a major distribution
OMVS: Robotic Assistance Devices in Advanced Discussions with Major Distribution Partner
Newsfile
Newsfile Corp.
NewsfileMay 30, 2017Comment
Henderson, Nevada--(Newsfile Corp. - May 30, 2017) - On the Move Systems (OTC Pink: OMVS) is pleased to announce that Robotic Assistance Devices (RAD - www.roboticassistancedevices.com) is in advanced discussions with a major distribution partner for the distribution of its autonomous robotic units in North America. RAD's partner manages tens of thousands of security guards and has thousands of clients.
"We believe that the versatility of your security robots, particularly the all-terrain capability and advanced electronics allowing integration into our client's existing security systems, allows us to offer supplemental security services that will significantly benefit our customers," said a Vice President of the partner in charge of corporate security services. "Our intention is to support and team with you to offer your security robots along with our human guards through our network of locations to our existing customer base."
RAD expects to sign a distribution agreement with this partner in approximately 30 days. The name of the potential distribution partner cannot be mentioned at this time due to confidentiality.
RAD is expected to commence proof of concepts in July and to sign on new clients. This is in addition to the existing 10 robot commitments that were signed up last month for total contract values of $1 million. OMVS is continuing its due diligence process on RAD as part of the binding LOI that was entered into on May 11th, 2017 for the purchase of 100% of RAD by OMVS. It is anticipated that the acquisition will close before August 10, 2017.
RAD currently has a sales pipeline of over 50 Fortune 500 companies and over 25 qualified dealers and distributors that have a combined customer base of more than 35,000 end user corporations.
For further information please refer to www.sec.gov.
Again read the cautionary statement...
As it is rad is not able to deliver any robots as of yet and expects to sign new clients in July...also needs a distrubution partner which means
1 needs funds
2 margins and cost
3 distribution partners
4 expects to sign more clients but no firm commitments...
5 extremely important to read the cautionary statements...
Omvs is a shell with debt and Rad is in dire need of funding to which is why the reverse merger, acquisition, which is stated in a pr..
So whatever rad and omvs is doing is questionable as far as merger or acquisition..2 different things and again deceptive...
So again in my opinion right out the gate after rad and omvs become one, a securities offer and or toxic financing will occur resulting in more dilution...
Why, because rad cannot get conventional financing, which is why it is backlogged, cannot deliver until July at the earliest..
So until rad and omvs merge, omvs is in dire straits, needs money and owes debt...
Rad needs funds and will dilute in the very beginning..
The 500 million. Authorized shares is attractive to Rad for funding...
So best to read the cautionary statements in my opinion...
What the ceo says and does is 2 different things...
That's otc land also...
Trading activity as well as exchange activity is absolute proof of dilution...in my opinion
Just need level 2 with exchangessential to see it, real plain to see in my opinion..
Anyways proper financials will show whether the center is truthful or not in my opinion..
So I go with my trading experience to say dilution is ongoing in my opinion...
Unless the center can disprove this...
A quick rise in pps, followed by a downward trend always signifies dilution...in my opinion
Otc land is full of ceo's who say one thing but do another...
Not necessarily...
You have to look at margins and cost...
Right now as stated rad has contracts for 15ish robots and backlog...
Which also shows that RAD can't fulfill orders as is..
How much does it make to build a robot and then costs to fulfill orders...how much does rad sell robots for..that's the biggest catch...
At what pace can RAD do this...
So this signifies that RAD would need money to build a facility etc to fulfill orders, which RAD does not have funds to do...
So again RAD or the new ticker would have to do a securities offer or toxic financing to move ahead...in my opinion..
Revenue means little if you can't fulfill