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I would bet on it ;)
You know it. News from CA training is overdue, as are many many updates.
LMAO. Thanks
We will any day ttottip. So much brewing here. Keep an eye on the board. I am out for most of the day !
I understand it just fine. The folks who want it down in the cellar can afford the deposit. Like you and PhD say often. There is no reason for this to be where it is. Revolutionary new stem cell company trading sub penny after a run to pennies. Dilution has been steady for almost a year, and slowing AND No where near what the board claims. If this month is somehow different, we will know soon enough. The claims of five million a DAY is disproven each month when the numbers come out.
There is a ton of shorting here. There is FAR more daily selling than dilution. That is proven every month when we see the OS. The notes are trickling out compared to what we see. It’s been that way every month this year so far. Anyone shorting from .007 when you said you sold, who can cover in the .004’s is easy money. Let’s see if June is the same.
Agreed. Pretty hard when shorty attacks ya daily.
Understood my friend
G$ last Friday :) “Everyone celz is real period! The doctors are real period!”
Totally agree with you ttottip. CELZ is staying quiet for a reason ;)
Best post of the weekend......
If CELZ was running a scam, they could’ve and would’ve been doing much more aggressive tactics. If anybody thinks this is a scam, they aren’t doing their DD. We have all invested in scam stocks before. This is NOT a scam stock. We have literally top of the line Urologists in multiple countries who are performing this procedure. A procedure that is patented and owned by CELZ and it works...very well!! These doctors are on the cutting edge of medicine by providing this procedure. It takes time for the rest of the world to hear about things like this and to catch on. But with news segments, magazine articles, mailings and soon to be commercials, it will start catching up to the public with a quickness!
We are at a very pivotal point in time right now, where our current way of nutrition, the current way of medicine and the current way of our overall health is being shown and proven scientifically, to NOT be the optimal way. There are new studies that are showing much more effective ways to create health and life longevity. Stem cells is at the forefront of this health surge. Day by day and month by month, word is spreading, doctors are talking, people are listening and the world is learning. There’s is TOO much momentum behind this newfound wealth of medical knowledge not to be successful with it. It’s the new coming of age in our lifetime.
Personally, I think CELZ has been very shrewdly moving forward using minimal financial resources to get done what they need to get done. It’s not like they can just print money. I think they’ve been very responsible with the shares and are using only what they need to get to the point of being cash flow positive. I, for one, would’ve never guessed a year ago that we’d be at .004. But I’m more positive now about our future than I was a year ago and I’ve been using these last 6 months to triple my share count from where it was last year. I will continue to add because I can see the writing on the wall. CELZ is going to have an entirely different level of value in the not too distant future. It’s going to happen fast and furious.
We will know when the numbers are posted in July.
Fully agree penguin. When the switch flips here, this will fly. Long and Strong.
Thanks Gint. Happy Father’s Day to the investors.
For example. Look back at May. The 7-8 trading days before the ugly toxic note was dead on May 14, we saw heavy selling. A few days of around 10 million in selling and one day almost 20 million in selling.
The numbers for May only showed 27 million shares were diluted..... far more than that we’re sold just in those few days. Was that shareholder bailing out, or a good week for anyone wanting to short?
It’s simply a possibility and happens all the time. The reported numbers prove the company is not “dumping”. The current notes are in the hands of the institutional investors and they have stipulations and clauses.
Selling, whether investors getting out, the notes, or someone taking the chance on covering lower all added together is the volume we see. It is out pacing buying on most days because we are still vastly unknown. That is about to change IMO.
Like another long said.... one day we will see a 50 million share trading day. When this wakes up, watch out.
Which brings me to my point I made the other day. We won’t know for sure until the June numbers are posted, but on the higher volumes days, we are seeing 30 million shares sold in a week. So either the notes are converting at a much higher rate this month than the past for months, or you are right, someone is shorting and taking the chance on covering lower. With the PPS direction it has been on since the first of the year, is it really that unlikely? Of course some of the selling are day traders selling into any run, but when it’s dropping steady and the volume picks up... makes you go hmmmmm. If the June numbers only show the same conversions, we will have our answer. Based on the crowd cheering against Rocky, you know how I feel LOLOL.
Totally agree Diegote10. As some want to point out, buying has been limited. The current shareholders have added all they can and are only buying when possible. As this expands, think more in CA, TX, TN, OH, Europe and MUCH more, a new group of investors will discover this and whales will gobble up these ridiculous low prices.
We are just starting to see more doctors calling and inquiring. We are also getting to the point where the first patients treated by these current doctors are coming up on the 6 month mark and more and more will be stepping forward and singing it’s praises, whether by video or written testimonials.
It won’t be long where we will see a bigger news story will air.
We really are at the sweet spot where it’s all coming together (physician awareness and patients awareness) and a new group of investors, and some whales, will find this company and that run to .10 will happen in weeks.
We have all seen examples of that.
Not to mention it was right out of the shoot when they acquired the shell. They treated their shareholders pretty damn good the next 5 years as they built the IP...... $0.02-$2.65 or so (I forget the final PPS). I hope they treat me as well in the end. :) I am betting they will.
Apples to Bananas
I agree with Gmoney once again. I can tell you he is a good guy, puts his money where is mouth is and literally put his body on the line. We all fall victim to normal pinky OTC activity. Dilute to death, RS, dilute to death, rinse, wash repeat. That is NOT what is happening with CELZ. I cannot say it any better that Seaheck just did.
Gmoney can verify they use the RanFac kit. They are real and the revenue stream for the company. Can we finally put that to rest? The treatment works. We have real patients. Not actors.
The rub comes from the way the company is run from OUR perspective, and OUR previous investments that fell off the charts. We have all been there and lost our investment. This is so different.
An email or call to the company, or a thousand of them will not change anything. The company has a game plan and they are following it. It’s not the pump we all like, but look at all that has happened since February:). The PPS will find its way, no worries. Go $CELZ.
Don’t miss the first part of his post. Treatment works, real docs, real company. It’s the PPS that has everyone on edge.
I agree 100%. They are in the stage of commercialization where things are going to turn for us. With revs coming in the notes should stop, and current notes COULD be paid off. I agree with NXS’s DD that interest is booming and that vetting and training has been streamlined and we will see more offices opening all summer.
It will all pick up steam, and it would be a silly time for the management to be selling their shares. If they wanted to do that, they would have in 2017 when the PPS was over .40, not now while at the cusp of this taking off.
It’s been a long hard road, and the PPS has been beaten down to one knee, no doubt. I am counting on a beautiful Rocky Balboa comeback.
Seeing so many fans in the audience rooting for the other guy proves it too me.
Management controls approx 107.6M shares, and up to 120M with some variances.
Their holdings are listed in the 10k’s following the requirements of the status they file under AT THAT TIME.
We would never know what their personal holding are unless they own over 5% of the OS. The OS is a moving target, so their reporting requirements change with each filing.
If I can get it to load I will show it to you....
Also, the company has been a QB filer since 2016. If the CEO “dumped” shares as reported, he would have to file a form 4. Since we have not seen that, rest assured he has his shares. AND, they are public shares, not preferred, that would suggest he would not RS his shares. The stinky pinky sticks that do that hold preferred share protecting themselves from the RS.
I agree MM25. Far more than the OS changes. Hmmmmm
I am not so sure about that G$. When the directors obtained their shares they were trading over .40 and worth far more. They are just as damaged by the current PPS than anyone.
And watch the notes being issued. They are for $100,000 or so each, the money needed for commercializing CaverStem, FemCelz. Running the company on a small budget, paying trainers, advertising etc to bring each doctor on, etc etc. it’s not free to run a company. They need cash to get started. Period.
If they were running a scam they would be doing what others say they are doing and dilute the entire 3B and walk away. That is NOT what they are doing.
The dilution has been slowing and slowing each month as revs come in. Watch the OTCMarkets each month. They have used the money wisely IMO, paying salaries, travel, training, advertising and all that is needed.
We see the fruit of it all now as we see more and more doctors interested. I still say we see significant progress June, July and August.
And now, for the rest of the story if the board wants to go back to 2008.
When Ichim and Dickerson inherited the shell to trade it had OS of 132.5 million and they did the small RS to bring the OS from 132.5 to only 5.3 million OS shortly after they acquired the shell. They had no revs, only IP as they had phase 1 clinical in process. Medistem was developed and sold to Intexon, it was never commercialized.
As they developed the company the OS only went up from 5.3 in 2008 to million to 14.4 in 2013. They do not have a history of RS to their shareholders or severe dilution. The dilution we are seeing now is only what is needed to fund the company on its shoestring budget. CELZ is also now cash flowing, but we all know that!!
Comparing the two for this reason is comparing apples to oranges.
Good reason to be!! $CELZ
No, it was not a failure. We will all see it soon. No worries.
Happy Friday Yooperman.... I hope so too, but based on their track record I think next week is more likely. I am counting on them having a lot to update us on... it’s going to be a good month!
The MM must have been in a meeting or something. All part of the game gint. ;)
No proof. Not even provable to anyone here. Just logic. It’s a suspicious low trade, lower than anyone would normally do.... especially on a slow day where it’s not a partial fill.
Just like when you see a series if 10,000 sells over and over, back to back, or the opposite 10,000 buys back to back. Who does that?
You have been trading enough to see when the MM want a stock to go up, you can place an order to buy at the ask, they give you a small partial fill, raise the ask, and as soon as you make the change to the new ask, they do the same thing walking it up.
And again, the opposite is the same. One little sell at the bid, lowers the bid and ask over and over and down she goes.
You have to like the 1,750 sells to drop it.....LOL
Thanks DWWIG. I guess that all depends on how you look at it. You are correct that the company has put out very little information to make the market react. Traders hate that, but investors have no issue with it.
As you know I fall into the latter category. CELZ is not out trying to raise the PPS, they are building a company. CELZ is not "pumping" and in fact are quite secretive. They have issued a few press releases that have told investors to watch social media for updates, and even that info is infrequent. That is how we know a new office is opening up in California and training is scheduled for this week.
CELZ is (IMO) running on a shoestring budget and slowly building up a network of physicians that will treat patients with their patented treatments. As that network of physicians builds, revs will build and the budget will expand and the entire process will speed up significantly.
CELZ is a start up Biotech lead by physicians and scientist, they are NOT a PND scam as many would like you to think. Evidence of that will come as we the the revs build in the next several quarterly filings.
If you follow the company close enough you will see they are successfully doing exactly what they intended to do.... commercialize new stem cell treatments for men and women.
I am buying and holding as their plan unfolds and we continue to see the network expand. There is no fake news, it is just news.
Fully agree ttottip!!! No doubt in my mind. Too much happening!