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lol you spelled arizona1 wrong ! but here's something for ya compliments of Al:
Early estimates of the coronavirus death rate from China, the center of the outbreak, were about 2 percent. But a new report on 1,099 cases from many parts of China, published on Friday in The New England Journal of Medicine, finds a lower rate: 1.4 percent.
The true death rate could turn out to be similar to that of a severe seasonal flu, below 1 percent, according to an editorial published in the journal by Dr. Anthony S. Fauci and Dr. H. Clifford Lane, of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Dr. Robert R. Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/health/coronavirus-flu.html
Don't ya hate it when that crazy Trump says something that Dr. Fauci published ? And this should keep you bored instead of filled with unnecessary hate.
Well if I've managed to bore you with my rational perspective, then you're no longer consumed with unnecessary hate and my work is done here
Hi Al ! you are no fan of Trump
When he held his 1st coronavirus press conference last week, and he introduced Mike Pence, I said to my wife, "Thank God he's stopped talking !"
lol
Hi Arizona1, I know when you change the subject, its your way of conceding you were mistaken.
Let's face it, Trump clearly the worst person in America to be trying to calm people's fears.
But since you know what the facts are, you shouldnt look for reasons to unnecessarily fan your hate. Its unhealthy.
So try to take the noise in stride and do your best not to catch this thing.
Just admit he didnt say going to work cures you of coronavirus. Or that they should go to work.
Did he or did he not say people should go to work if they have the virus?
He did not. He said people are getting over the virus doing nothing more than going on with their normal routine whether it be sitting around or going to work.
What he was trying to convey is that for most people, especially people 40 and under, the coronavirus symptoms are like a bad cold and not lethal or require any special treatment to get over.
Which is true.
But he definitely shouldn't even mentioned going to work although you can infer that he meant there are probably many people going to work who dont know they have it.
Especially when there are so many TDS journalists/bloggers who earn their living by TDS misinterpreting every single word he says.
Soooooo we're back to what he said, what he most likely meant, and what people afflicted with TDS want you to believe he said.
Welcome to life in the 21st century !
I don't like needing to have a Trump-to-English translator always handy, but I gotta think having TDS is EXHAUSTING.
Every now and then the Post gets a jolt of integrity.
Hi mr40, the hoax part was the extreme right wing claim it was a way for Obama to "take over" certain parts of the country, whatever that means.
Jade Helm - its always good to remember the far right wing is capable of perpetrating hoaxes too.
lol ok - so if someones gets it and doesnt self quarantine, then they'll only make 1 or 2 elderly people die.
The bottom line is its not about the symptoms.
Hi mr40, the issue isnt the symptoms, the issues are how fast it spreads (i.e how easy it is to catch it) and the 2.5% - 3% chance you can die from it - which is about 5 times higher chances than dying from the flu.
It appears that the people most at risk of dying from it are over 60 - just like the regular flu.
So yeah, if you're 40 and you get it you'll be fine - but you probably also gave it to 100 people over 60 of which 3 of them could possibly die.
lol you guys are KILLING ME !!
And this is their new hoax.
Their "new hoax" is the democrats and supporting media claiming RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE that our response to corona virus was too little too late.
Despite what you've read here that in fact our pre-emptive response to restricting flights to/from China was the smartest thing we could have done.
Awwww c'mon arizona1, he said no such thing.
You do realize they've had press conferences about the "hoax" and requested from Congress $2.5B to deal with the "hoax", right ?
Sane person's conclusion: they don't think the virus is a hoax. But they definitely think the unwarranted criticism is the same as all the other criticism.
Thanks Al, it's really kinda sad how quick the media jump on this as an opportunity.
But let's take a break and enjoy some humor from John mulaney !
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/arts/television/saturday-night-live-john-mulaney.html
What sickens me just as much arizona1 is all the shameless BS flying around.
Only an idiot would think that Trump thinks coronavirus is a hoax. So you kinda have a decision to make, lol.
Hi Ayock, he said "hoax" but if you take the full context of his statement, he meant it to mean "an excuse to discredit him".
He definitely was not calling the virus cases a hoax. Only an idiot would believe he meant that.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for that hysterical radical post !
Did he actually call it a hoax ? Or is this just another media lie ?
“Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus,”
This is totally true. As is the media that supports them. Cuz they fear that if our government response to it is effective, that will sway voters.
So I guess they'd rather see corona virus spread and kill thousands of people. Pretty sick, huh ?
Kinda like they were "hoping" Trump had started world war III when we took out Soleimani. So messed up.
I don't get your point.
Because you tend to believe a lot of stuff your cult tells you that isn't true.
Also - the answer to the question you keep asking me is in what you posted.
If someone says the spread of the virus is unstoppable (i.e. he warned the coronavirus may be impossible to contain) that implies most people will get it. Which in our case is upwards of 300M people. And if the mortality rate is 3% that implies 9M people will die from the US from it.
Therefore what he said was a very irresponsible thing for any govt official to say. Especially since its unlikely to actually happen. And especially since at the moment we've had ZERO deaths from it.
As for the other nonsense - "climate change inaction" - in China and India maybe but in Europe and the US, our CO2 emissions have been dropping for the past 15 years and continue to do so.
Gotta link to that exact statement from Dr. Anthony Fauci?
Hi Arizona1, you posted it so you've read the message.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=154076095
The number of misstatements in what you posted, were it not for the seriousness of the situation, would be laughable.
Lol I'd be happy to sign the petition !
Oh wait ! We all get to sign "petitions" in Nov !
Tell that to China, arizona1. One of the first doctors to sound the alarm was punished and sadly died of the virus.
Telling people that we're all gonna get Corona virus and 3% of us are gonna die from it is extremely irresponsible for a govt official to state.
Hi Arizona1, I get it. You're still upset that Trump didnt start world war III.
That's even more tragic.
Ayock, check with anyone - all the increase in CO2 into the atmosphere is from China and India while the US and Europe have DECREASED their CO2 emissions.
How could you not know this ?
Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney refused to take responsibility for the Trump administration's response to the COVID-19 ....
What does that even mean ? You mean the guy should be taking credit for it ?
The Trump administration has barred the top US disease expert from speaking freely to the public after he warned the coronavirus may be impossible to contain
Gee because causing fear and panic might not be a good thing ?
Hi Arizona1, the Chinese being entirely responsible for the global warming we've experienced over the past 15 years and they are responsible these cancellations too.
And a bunch of other things which we already knew about.
Hi Ayock, I'm sure you know, just like Fox News did when Obama was president, there are people whose job it is to criticize this administration does, everything and more importantly dismiss anything positive.
Its very clear to any sane person that preventative steps were taken early on to try and prevent or highly limit corona virus from spreading through the US uncontrolled. Has anyone in the US died from Corona virus ? The fact that there are only 15 or 16 cases in the US at this time should be commended not ridiculed.
But of course these people arent paid to commend this administration, they are only paid to accusing of stuff.
Just amazing that the radical left is fabricating "Trump Hate" reasons over this.
No matter what happens next, it should be amazing to any sane person HOW FEW cases have been diagnosed in the US so far.
But that's not the hated-filled propaganda world we live in, isnt it ?
Hi Ayock, we had a lot of "socialism" in the 60's and 70's. Go look at pics of NYC from back then. Free college tuitions, labor unions everywhere.
The place was mostly disgusting. Times Square was all porno movie theaters and pickpockets. Housing "projects".
Entitlement, entitlement, entitlement.
Then Ed Koch turned things around.
Hi Ayock, all 3 systems have one thing in common -- rule by the wealthy. If they cant rule, they leave for someplace else and everything goes down the shithole.
Remember England in the 70s when their rock stars were being taxed and 90%+ ? Why do you think John and Yoko Lennon moved to NYC instead of living in London ?
We need wealth distribution here for sure, but only as a temporary re-adjustment. We also need to do something about health care and education costs. Like cut defense spending by $100B - $200B. Wouldnt it be nice if the rest of the world didnt make us spend that money on world defense ?
It would also be nice if young lower income african american men (3% of our population) weren't committing 50% of our violent crime.
I never said ownership of everything is the goal Ayock. I'm just pointing out the making all doctors, nurses and hospitals government entities would be socialist.
Have ya done a search on "VA hospital horror stories" ?
Of course I'm sure "canadian hospital horror stories" works too.
And did you miss the fraud numbers I posted ? That $450B saving would get wiped out by the 10 fold increase in health care fraud.
I'm sorry America isnt the same as Sweden. There are somethings that work for small passive (and non diverse) population countries that just don't work here. But soooo many innovations that you can longer live without were invented and brought to market here.
Hi Ayock, these things are not socialism.
Socialism is the government owning everything including businesses and property.
However, your misinformation is correct in the sense the government spends a lot of money on stuff that goes far beyond providing for security, safety, and economic stability.
But unlike nationalized health care, very few of the government spending items listed involve taking government ownership of private businesses. The "socialist" spending is used to provide economic stability.
And many of the things you listed - the government use contractors and private businesses to provide. My trash pickup, for example, is contracted out.
Hi Ayock, I stopped at Maxine Waters. lol
But I get it. You're mad that Trump wasn't convicted of being a Russian spy.
You're mad that Trump wasn't arrested for asking the president of another country for a personal favor.
But you're not mad that the Obama Dept of Justice falsified a warrant application so they could spy on an opposition party campaign. Like any fascist organization would do.
Interesting.
Yeah I guess people are thinking why hold BHC when TSLA and SPCE are going through the roof - 1990s bubble style.
Venn vill ve see some justice?
In 47 short months from now.
Of course it might take longer than that for the 1984-like, fascist, left wing false accusations to stop. And as "unsafe" as it makes me feel, I do my best not to be overly dramatic about it.