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Any of you lookers here that haven't filled out that DOJ letter yet best get after it. The DEADLINE is less than an hour and thirty minutes away. I dont want to hear any excuses, as there has been alot of time and effort put into this by some, and i dont want the decision to go the wrong way because of some slackers. DO NOT depend on others to fill it out. Do so yourself, and that goes for you overseas folks and you institutional/hedge fund guys too. I know you're lookin.
Try to hold off on gambling, charts, vacations, booze, divorces, '80's rock bands, money, and strip joints until after 12 eastern please.
Thanks
Tell you what, if you're so hell bent on paying higher taxes, I'll let you pick up mine. What the hell kind of statement is "gotta come from somewhere"?
Here's a thought, have you ever considered the frickin government needs to spend less?
People who talk like that either have to much money and want other folks to suffer so they never get up to their level, or they are libtards. (president is both)
Rochambeau candidate right there
I take that you were a client?
Hank, are you trying to say i missed something? Or just pointing out the secured creditors weren't mentioned?
He was laughing at the thought of attempting to chart this.
I think you chartists would be interested in hearing what an institution had to say about charting this company when they called me the other day.
Read the PR carefully. What you dont see in there is mention to project 'Cloud' and 'Hoover', terms of the confidentiality agreement signed with a potential purchaser of assets, terms of the stalking horse agreement that is in play, terms of the confidentiality agreement signed with the Ad Hoc group of equity holders, nor how they intend to treat the 2009 bonds.
I suspect they are dangling a carrot to the 2026's with a little equity in return. 2026's should go up.
Even with a 50% dilution, we still are worth over $4 knocking out the 2026's and substantially the 2009's.
I bet the holders of the 2009s and 2016s didnt like the looks of that PR.
While it is obvious to some that an asset sale is definately in play, the current consideration for the forming of an EC was brought on over two months ago when retail holders made requests to the trustee's office and the court.
Sure, the trustee's office has access to confidential information, but i seriously doubt they would take it into consideration. The decision for or against will come from the arguments made and publicly available information.
Need a bouncer too.
May i suggest reading through Lazard's last billing. If you read it, you will understand they are neck deep in an asset sale.
In addition to the confidentiality agreement the company has signed with the ad hoc group, they have also signed a confidentiality agreement (CA)with a suitor for an asset sale.
Apparently they are late in the game with it as there are many references to executory contracts/and negotiation thereof.
Not to mention references to precedent law/cases/procedure for what obviously is a thinly veiled stalking horse agreement.
Good stuff.
where are you catching those fish? river or lake? water must be fairly clear as their color shows it. runnin lines i presume
BB, as a gesture of goodwill, I'd like to make a donation to t.u. for teeth whitening of the head football coach. when mack brown smiles, it reminds me of those old parkay commercials. like when he coaxed the refs to review a nonreviewable call on the field and put one second back up so they could kick a field goal. it was easier than having to listen to tcu and cincinati argue about it for weeks or years....
Cant disagree with that short list.....kinda surprised it's that long!
They must have skipped me, i havent got a thing yet.
Taken from your article:
"If UT stopped offering the money and benefits it offers to football players"
I couldn't have said it better myself. lol
it's the place that football coach they call 'butter teeth' works at
spoken like someone from the 40 acres of liberals chunkin rocks at the 5100 acre campus up the road bout 90 miles. since you guys are second best at about everything,,,and always 5 years behind,,,,it's good they let in all the football players who cant make the grades anywhere else,,,,rap sheets no matter either,,,along with all those future lawyers....
congratulations !
yes, when you have leaders....the followers always show up
4:45
I doubt anybody west of the mississippi has gotten theirs yet, including myself. I wouldnt be surprised if i didnt get it until wednesday or thursday, considering the christmas season. I suspect many on the west coast, in canada, and overseas wont get it until past the deadline.
We'll address those who haven't received notice by thursday somehow so they can be counted.
Remember, the deadline is 12:00 EASTERN TIME Friday. Cali folks beware, the mailman wont deliver your mail before the deadline friday if you havent got it by thursday.
You guys in Belguim and Holland, we'll figure something out.
the one thing i'll agree with you with is that charts will give you a clue. Once you get the clue, though, you best try to figure out the underlying reason or facts associated with the clue. That is where the 'chartists' are separated from the 'people who got rich from charts'. People dont get rich from charts, they get rich digging up the information they need to make educated decisions as to buy or sell, not from listening to a well known chart guy give video seminars on what he 'thinks' are chart reasons for this or that. I can give you reasons for the major chart moves associated with the run ups and sell offs to a certain extent, while our chart guys talk about bollinger/dogi/hammer stuff. Fact of the matter is that charts are based on things that have already happened, and while they may give clues or indications of what 'might' happen, if you can not sit here and tell me what the share price will do today, then that ought to tell you what good a chart is in a BK stock.
we should go up big today, in my opinion, as that is what i thought last night. now first thing this morning someone is bailing out sending this straight down. they must have a hot tip on ssccq or something.
i dont believe my questions have been answered previously or i wouldnt have asked
if you chart guys are so sure, humor me. one, why the end of day sell off, and two, wtf will the share price do tomorrow? anyone, anyone, ?
lol, well played
expose the 'folly' of K&E's argument
FYI, new old info about ensuring common stock survival soon to be posted on mc blog. (this is important)
EDIT, posted already.
xoxo meredith
20 minutes to clay
He cant drive worth a damn though.....always getting lost and missing turns.
I think the chinese will figure out this manipulation and how it's done, look at what they figured out today already.
Yeah it has (proof), and if you opened your eyes, his name is on the email chain of the recent correspondences.
Just once i wish someone would do some DD before they pop off with the speculation.
You ask a question. I gave a 100% sure answer. You ask again. I say 110% sure. You question my integrity. Someone else verifies my answer.
Belittling?
Name calling?
You best take a long hard look in the mirror.
The 'tangible proof' is there, go find it yourself if you dont believe us.
Point 3, sure and they are way past 'kickin tires'. There are levels of DD, from 'some interest' to 'pretty damn serious'.
Point 5, from your comments i can tell no matter if i had the sec guy in front of you telling you what he's done, you would still doubt it.
Point 3, sure, but someone is spending some serious $ looking into it, that is all i can say.
Point 5, maybe i should say 110% sure. although i didn't pick the phone up and call them, i know who did, and i also know the result(s) of that phone call(s).
3.: Two separate court filings validate that there are 3 potential purchasers of assets looking into chemtura's assets. If you spent the time to track corporate jets, you would get an idea of who they are.
5.: I am 100% sure the SEC is aware of the situation. The SEC rep has been in contact with the DOJ.
6.: The 'idea' of an EC was never tabled by the DOJ. It has been denied previously earlier this summer, but the DOJ is considering it again after the bonds began trading over par and the latest 10Q and MOR's show an increase in equity.
the list is correct, what do you question as being true?
you're gonna upset meredith with language like that
I can assure you that the trustee has a revised, and most likely very accurate claims register in front of her. In Excel
if any of you folks actually think Skadden represents you, go ahead and call them up and see what happens. that lie from Akin was worth a good laugh.
some of you folks may not like what im about to say:
i am personally getting tired of all this uninformed pants wetting. if you need to get out, please do. folks from the DOJ may well check this board to gauge market sentiment. if they look, what will they see? a bunch of whining, that's what. unfortunately, this whining has coincided with the decision on an EC.
a few of us here have put alot of time and hard work into even getting the ? of an EC before the proper folks. alot on here have ridden coattails.
now i don't mind folks riding coattails, but when you start climbing over the top of me and stepping on my toes with negative speculative heresay, it's time some of you folks reconsider and back up off my toes.
skauble, i answered your PM's the best i could at this time. you're still on my toes, get off or silently leave. your rhetoric is affecting my account and I don't appreciate it one bit. you didnt go to NY, you weren't in court, you dont know what was said on or off the record, so you really cant say what you said, now can you?
if anyone was listening, when this effort started all i wanted was a little trust and patience. wtf happened to patience? give the trustee a few days, will ya, those folks are busy and this is never a quick process.
He smells of Akin&Gump
Take chelsea clinton with you because the yahoo home page is gonna make me take some advil. Tired of lookin at that on a day like today.
the wheels will fall off long before then.
I could write a country song with all this pissin and moaning. We got fishin and huntin too. Throw in some beer and cheatin women and i think it's covered.
Truth of the matter is that if most all on this board really knew what was going on, you might crap your pants.
I suggest spending some time filtering the BS,,,,aka DD.
BTW, hello Meredith, i think i'll put you in my country song. Now....for a title....?