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thanks songbird, i appreciate your response... sorry for the confusion.
Milo,
I too browsed some of the pages and smiled at seeing workstations with 5 monitors going... i.e. http://www.chicagotrade.com/c5intro.html
It would be cool to do a spooztoolz ad with one of those guys and another guy next to him using a spooztoolz equipped PDA doing the same job =D
okay, okay, perhaps they'll still need their five screens, but they'll still be able to do more faster:D
hey is trading technologies missing from that list??? or are they not part of phase I?
thanks again
Thanks Wing...
So what would be spzi's annual revenue should they get 1% of all the futures traders from those brokerages??? =D
remember wisdom of fedfunz...
1. have some patience
2. do not compare this thing to INXR
interesting that fedfunz will not be commenting until launch or even after (meaning his lessons learned relate to something other than the launch, something that might not be announced at the same time). See the post below...
Posted by: fedfunz
In reply to: jkruppa who wrote msg# 16273 Date:7/2/2007 3:58:17 PM
Post #of 16513
All,
I am not on a non-disclosure agreement. I am on a "moral" non disclosure agreement were I have been to Spooz and exposed to some thing I cannot comment on. Therefore, I will not be commenting at all till launch or even after. What I will say is please have some patience and do NOT compare this to INXR.
Good luck to all and keep the faith
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Just a guy with an opinion. Leave your campsite better than you found it. Don't peel the birch bark off the birch tree.
i don't think we should worry
yes the mm's have a good deal of control and could drown us if they wanted, but only for a while
the forthcoming pr's should provide info regarding the anticipated revenues at year's end
that will awaken investors all over and soon demand will consume even the mm's shares, if they sale right away
the fact is that the earnings of the company have the final say
I would be happy just to see the demo up on the website
It bothers me that they have ads in magazines saying "go take a test drive" when the demo is not working yet. If I was a customer and went online to take a test drive, i'd be less likely to buy the product if the test drive was not ready
i'm not worried or anything, just impatient! =D
yeah, if i bought in at 1.80 i'd be worried too, but if you can stick it out, the long term will be good to you
this stock is volatile, but the general trend is up, and I think they have a very bright future
i'm not much of a business guy, rather, an engineer... both wwat and entech have some really nice patented technologies that will be indispensable to sustainable development
http://www.solarsystems.com.au/154MWVictorianProject.html
These are the size of solar projects I believe wwat will tackle in the not-so distant future (~2years, depending on solar drivers).
The entech concentrators are the best in terms of cost and large scale production imo.
I hope wwat will also take a shot at solar powered Reverse Osmosis for desalinating sea water... the combination of the high energy demand and large pumps required makes this tech a potential goldmine for wwat. water stress is only just beginning and will accelerate rapidly in the coming decade.
I do not think it unreasonable for wwat to net 100 mil in '08 and depending on their ability to grow with the demand, 1 bil in the years following.
with a max of 250 mil o/s, that bodes well for our pps.
just my opinion, please feel free to add your insights
doing my daily google search for spooztoolz, I came across this interesting post on an iphone yahoo message board
no source provided for the info though, so it may just be a renegade spooz pumper
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_A/threadview?m=tm&bn=60&tid=128...
apparently, there are others who think spooztoolz will be the trading platform for the iphones...
no more sellers at 4pm (edited), diggin it folks... bring on next week!
whoops! guess i just read the abbreviated version! sorry about that! haha
gm all, today is wing's day... 6 pm eh?? pretty interesting time for a PR... happy hour! =D
looks really strong these days
i've been watching/holding this stock for two years now, and the volatility seems to have dissapated a bit with this last run. You can see the mm's trying to bring the price down and failing to have much success.
sentiment on the yahoo board was mixed about the news. some are discouraged by the delayed shareholders meeting. i say QK can do whatever he wants so long as he seals the deal with Entech...
50 MWatt projects here we come... then we can start seeing some real profits, which will be great for us shareholders since the P/E for solar in general is great these days.
I can't believe the volume is so low these days with the launch so close at hand. I guess the people who have discovered the company have gotten all the shares they want/can afford/can risk. Hopefully there are legions of investors keeping an eye on it, planning to pounce when they see the news and numbers in the near future.
very interesting days ahead folks.
good morning... what, were you all out late last night or something??? this is a big day (hopefully!) so wake up! :D
They shouldn't wait. Not worth the risk of missing out. they especially shouldn't wait til next trading day... we'll see what happens by the end of today.
Interpretation of Fedfunz's note:
Those last lines scared me a bit at first... "have some patience" and "keep the faith"
however, combining this w/ Paul's recent email about how we'll be smiling, I interpret it as...
Don't be a fool- don't sell after the first spike cuz more news will be coming soon.
bottom line... I'm going long on this one. If we all do the same, the price will probably climb faster.
no spamming please
who's ready for some fireworks this week?
and I'm not talking about the 4th! =)
just noticed no shares for sale...
smile =D looks like a lot of folks are holding
batton down the hatches... a storm's a brewin!
i was wrong- demo is up
just in a sneaky place... video demo still coming, but you can see a quick screen demo by clicking on the icon in the bottom of the left column
or just go to http://www.spooztoolz.com/demo.aspx
maybe i just missed this before (<-- dense) the layout is a bit confusing though
anyhow, it looked pretty simple to use, easier than excel, it does all the work- really cool.
demo access
I thought I'd heard people talking about seeing the demo on the site before, but I have not yet been able to access it... is it not yet up or am I just missing something?
I've been clicking on the link on the main spoolztoolz page that says 'view demo'
Anyhow, i hope that's not deterring potential customers.
totally agree... this admin is pretty pro-nuculear, or however w says it, which i don't believe is sustainable
wwat is the way to go... let the sun be our nuclear energy source:D
i think people are loading up in anticipation of an acquisition announcement... should be a good week folks!
"That would mean that net earnings would equal $0.10 per share, conservatively, by the end of 2008. With an earnings multiple of 10, the pps would be $1, at 20 would be $2 and at 50 would be $5 per share."
... so you're basically saying that the conservative estimate for anyone owning 1 million shares today is that they'd have $1 million dollars around the end of 2008...
I cannot even imagine how sweet that would be... if it happens, I'll tell you all why! (but not until then!)
That's right Milo... big day tomorrow!!!!!! None of this July stuff for us!
Also, keep in mind that the revenue projections for this year are in the neighborhood of $3 million...
using allie's eloquently presented estimate for revenues in a previous post,
1000 users * $500/month * 6 months = $3 million, so the total number of users in the short term is actually quite low and probably mostly futures traders, not sub-penny guru's like the people on this board. Thus, the expectation that spooztoolz users will be raising the share price by buying shares themselves is not realistic (yet!).
all just my opinion... others please correct me if you find holes in the logic.
I am very new to this stock and board and have had the same questions lurking... however, I remain confident that we're still in very good shape.
This value of this company is not well understood by your average penny trader, imo. Combine that with a quick glance at the chart over the last year and you have a limited "fan base". It's not like spzi is fighting global warming or anything, so the buzz factor is pretty limited.
The people who have recognized the value are probably very smart investors for the most part and have done their dd... just reading this board, they could learn that the financiers are selling and are willing to accept low prices.
I think Paul has mentioned somewhere that the increase in share price will be profit-driven. Once people see the numbers, they'll realize its a great company.
Like you, I wondered if investors are the target consumers, then why haven't they jumped in by the boatload since they should be able to see the value of this company? My guess is that many of them don't trade the pennies, and if they do, they are waiting for some numbers.
I'm sure others on this board will have much better insights.
Thanks for your post.
article available on www.solarbuzz.com
June 22, 2007
New York, NY, USA: DOE to Provide Nearly $60 Million for Solar Energy Research
U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) Secretary Samuel W. Bodman said that the DOE will make available nearly $60M to increase the use of solar power across the country, building on the President’s commitment to further the development of clean, renewable energy technologies. Secretary Bodman announced: up to $2.5 million for Solar America Cities cooperative agreements, in which thirteen selected cities will receive awards to promote increased use of solar-powered technologies throughout each city; the issuance of a Funding Opportunity Announcement (FOA) for up to $30 million for universities to research near-term improvements in solar products; and the competitive selection of ten cost-shared Photovoltaic (PV) Module Incubator projects that will receive up to $27 million in DOE funding over 18 months.
“We believe these projects will stimulate activity in the marketplace and create a ripple effect that will boost the use of solar energy across the country,” Secretary Bodman said. “Harnessing more of the sun’s power is central to reaching the President’s goal of increasing our nation’s energy security by pushing forward clean, renewable technologies that will allow us to become less reliant on imported sources of energy.”
Secretary Bodman made today’s announcements while delivering keynote remarks at the American Council on Renewable Energy (ACORE) Renewable Energy Finance Forum in New York. Secretary Bodman highlighted President Bush’s Solar America Initiative (SAI), which seeks to make solar energy cost-competitive with conventional sources of electricity by 2015, and is integral to the President’s Advanced Energy Initiative (AEI). The AEI seeks to change the way we power our homes, offices, and vehicles by increasing the use of clean, renewable energy technologies.
UP TO $27 MILLION FOR PHOTOVOLTAIC MODULE INCUBATOR PROJECTS
While delivering keynote remarks to ACORE’s Renewable Energy Finance Forum, Secretary Bodman also announced the competitive selection of ten cost-shared Photovoltaic Module Incubator projects. In total, these projects, subject to negotiation of final terms and Congressional appropriations, will receive up to $27 million in DOE funding over 18 months (Fiscal Years 2007-2009). With a minimum 20 percent cost share from industry, the total research investment is expected to reach $71 million. In these projects, businesses will address the challenges related to reducing cost, improving performance, and expanding manufacturing capacity of innovative PV technologies to move from small-scale to pilot production.
Incubator project funding is structured so that companies receive funding from the Department only upon successful performance of pre-specified new hardware. This approach allows the Department to remove some administrative reviews and planning paperwork so early-stage companies can focus on technology development; taxpayers are also assured real value for their investment in these high-risk/high-return projects. Contingent on congressional appropriations, the Department will provide opportunities for new companies to enter this program every nine months.
The following companies have been selected to participate in the PV Incubator Projects: AVA Solar (Fort Collins, CO); Blue Square Energy (North East, MD); CaliSolar (Menlo Park, CA); EnFocus Engineering (Sunnyvale, CA); MicroLink Devices (Niles, IL); Plextronics (Pittsburgh, PA); PrimeStar Solar (Golden, CO); Solaria (Fremont, CA); SolFocus (Palo Alto, CA); and SoloPower (Milpitas, CA).
UP TO $30 MILLION FOR UNIVERSITY RESEARCH
In support of research and development that will lower costs, increase availability, and improve the efficiency of photovoltaic (PV) solar products, Secretary Bodman today also announced the issuance of a $30 million (FY 2008-2010) Funding Opportunity Announcement (FOA). Over the next three years, this funding will support university work on materials and process research to yield near-term improvements in solar products. Funding is subject to Congressional appropriations. Projects funded through this solicitation also further President Bush’s American Competitiveness Initiative, which commits to investing in our next generation of scientists, engineers and educators so America can continue to successfully compete in the 21st century global marketplace.
UP TO $2.5 MILLION FOR SOLAR AMERICA CITIES
The 2007 Solar America Cities are: Ann Arbor, MI; Austin, TX; Berkeley, CA; Boston, MA; Madison, WI; New Orleans, LA; New York, NY; Pittsburgh, PA; Portland, OR; Salt Lake City, UT; San Diego, CA; San Francisco, CA; and Tucson, AZ.
Subject to negotiation of final terms, DOE will provide a total of $2.5 million in financial assistance to the thirteen competitively selected, cost-shared, two-year projects. Additionally, DOE will provide hands-on assistance from technical and policy experts to help cities integrate solar technologies into city energy planning, zoning, and facilities; to streamline city-level regulations and practices that affect solar adoption by residents and local businesses; and to promote solar technology through outreach, curriculum development, and incentive programs.
Solar America Cities have been identified as large cities with high electricity demand, and represent a diverse geography, population, and maturity of solar infrastructure. Cities were selected based on their plan and commitment to a comprehensive, citywide approach to the deployment of solar technologies. Their efforts will improve the ability of citizens and businesses to adopt solar technology locally, and will provide a model that other cities across the country can follow. Subject to evaluation by DOE’s Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy, as well as appropriations from Congress, DOE plans to select a new round of Solar America Cities in 2008.
100000 shares... that loud thud you just heard was my jealous jaw hitting the floor!
Next news will be ???
Entech acquisition??? I think they said it'd be a month from the announcement about the final letter of intent, though historically I know these estimates have been a bit off... not worried so long as it goes down... the sooner the better though, and it will give us a nice bump in share price
Big projects! The entech concentrator technology should give wwat a leg up on the comp for any large scale solar power plants, so I'm just waiting for that new to break... the stock will probably rocket after that.
Not many bigger industries than energy... and I believe wwat is the future of energy.
any news and it'll be off to the races again
i'm hoping to get back to 5000 shares before then... i sold some when we were up in the clouds and missed out on a couple good opps to buy for a buck...
Thanks for the posts... glad to see people check the board.
I am still doing my dd and am a bit hesitant still.
Obviously, this industry has to explode to meet our future energy needs.
However, I'm not too impressed so far by this company for the following reasons...
1. Their website is an absolute mess. It is hard to put faith in a company that does not have a well organized website. There is no excuse for this in today's business world.
2. If their breakthrough biodiesel reactor technology from '06 was so good, why is it not listed in the Products section on their site, and why is it barely mentioned on the site at all?
3. This push into the algae-based biodiesel is interesting but seems risky, particularly for a company with an apparently strong foothold in more traditional biodiesel creation... I am also worried about the water demand associated with each acre of algae... gonna be a lot of evaporation taking place... how does the water demand balance out when compared with more traditional methods using the "waterless" reactors but more land.
I am not a basher... I really like some of the ideas driving this company, but I think these are legitimate questions/problems that I hope to get answers to before investing.
So, are the financiers done now?
Based on today's drift away from past trends, I'm inclined to say yes... but maybe they're playing dead... do financiers do that? I have no idea, but it would be pretty clever... it seems they have changed tactics before.
I guess the true test will be when the first of many announcements hits... I can't wait!
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/21/congress.energy.ap/index.html
senate pushes for auto lines (cars, trucks, and SUV's) to have an average fuel efficiency of 35 mpg by 2020.
definitely going to need some lithium hybrids to meet that goal!
=D
Shoot, price at 0.0023 now, guess it was a tricky MM posing as an innocent 5th grader... shady
well, he didn't have much in the piggy bank, otherwise I would have said a month =)
that's one smart fifth grader, gonna be rich by 8th grade
i think calm before the storm is a good way to describe it... especially if we end the day in green territory