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"Stock prices will continue to fall as the potential for a dark future for common shareholders becomes more evident."
Volume will continue to decline as down traders wait for the so called "run."
Because they hold overpriced shares.
Volume drying up. Not good at all.
This trades under 1.60 in the next two trading days.
There are plenty of people already in panic...as they should be. But that's because they realize this thing isn't worth what they paid for it anymore.
Name another stock that could realistically become non existent tomorrow. Currently, what other company/stock has a strong chance of experiencing that?
What other company does the media actively portray this as a possibility?
"Any stock" is not the answer to this question. Sure, anything could theoretically happen...but let's be serious. Is there another situation similar currently?
Not according to my knowledge. That's what makes the risk high.
And to say that it is wise to take huge risks like this for the purpose of long term investment, such as your retirement, is utterly irresponsible.
I certainly agree! There is a difference, that we must acknowledge, between discussions of swing/day trading and discussions wherein we treat this as a long term investment. Touting this as a long term investment is dangerous. There is no arguing that. But for those with the time and experience to execute day trades, this can in fact produce some gains.
Again, at the moment, these stocks make for very risky long term investments.
For anyone who is interested, I welcome you to read through my history to see if you can find any outright "falsities."
With the exception of a post I made with a prediction 100 years in the future (literally), I am confident I have posted no such thing.
Could you please post direct quotes of said "falsities?"
Sure, but I have never done such a thing so that certainly doesn't apply to me. Just so we're clear.
It would only make my posts invalid if you were the only investor who has or will ever hold an interest in the stock. OBVIOUSLY.
For every 1 person who has made money, there are 5 who are way down on their money.
INVESTORS BEWARE--->
---See the links provided below for a few of the many publications that discuss the risks that make FMNA simply not worth it for many investors.----
The cold hard truth with Fannie and Freddie is that you could wake up one morning, look into your portfolio, and see zeros. This stock could literally be deemed worthless OVER NIGHT. No warning, no time to sell, NOTHING.
Please be careful with your hard earned money. There is no good excuse for accepting UNNECESSARY RISK, putting your livlihood on the line. These message boards are extremely unbalanced and could potentially lead you to making a bad decision.
If anyone has any questions, or is interested in chatting without the "noise," feel free to contact me via PM.
Best of luck to all.
--DISCLAIMER: I have no interest, fiancial or otherwise, in FMCC or FNMA. Some will claim I hold a short position, which is simply untrue; I trade in a retirement account that does not allow short selling. Please use your heads.--
"...the beneficiary should be the government, not the owners of the publicly traded shares, which by all rights should be worthless."
Source: http://articles.mcall.com/2013-06-07/opinion/mc-fannie-mae-paulson-weil-column-20130607_1_fannie-mae-fannie-and-freddie-freddie-mac
"A plan being considered in the Senate would liquidate Fannie/Freddie within five years and replace them with a government-backed reinsurance entity that would back-stop the industry but only after private investors suffer losses first."
I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. One of the riskiest stocks to hold, hands down.
Source: http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/channels/pipelinepress/06062013-secondary-marketing-frannie.aspx
"Personally, I wouldn’t bet on the shareholders of Fannie and Freddie getting their companies back anytime this decade. Although there may be long term value, nobody should count on it for grocery money anytime soon.
Source: http://www.vaildaily.com/news/6830670-113/colorswatch-colortext-nonestrokestyle-nothingtext
INVESTORS BEWARE--->
The cold hard truth with Fannie and Freddie is that you could wake up one morning, look into your portfolio, and see zeros. This stock could literally be deemed worthless OVER NIGHT. No warning, no time to sell, NOTHING.
Please be careful with your hard earned money. There is no good excuse for accepting UNNECESSARY RISK, putting your livlihood on the line. These message boards are extremely unbalanced and could potentially lead you to making a bad decision.
If anyone has any questions, or is interested in chatting without the "noise," feel free to contact me via PM.
Best of luck to all.
DISCLAIMER: I have no interest, fiancial or otherwise, in FMCC or FNMA. Some will claim I hold a short position, which is simply untrue; I trade in a retirement account that does not allow short selling. Please use your heads.
Potential outlook is very grim for shareholders. The articles below are simply the tip of the iceberg. Will happily post more tonight, if you guys would like... I think tomorrow night I'll have more time to discuss, though, so I'd prefer to wait.
Have a great night guys.
"...the beneficiary should be the government, not the owners of the publicly traded shares, which by all rights should be worthless."
Source: http://articles.mcall.com/2013-06-07/opinion/mc-fannie-mae-paulson-weil-column-20130607_1_fannie-mae-fannie-and-freddie-freddie-mac
"A plan being considered in the Senate would liquidate Fannie/Freddie within five years and replace them with a government-backed reinsurance entity that would back-stop the industry but only after private investors suffer losses first."
I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. One of the riskiest stocks to hold, hands down.
Source: http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/channels/pipelinepress/06062013-secondary-marketing-frannie.aspx
"Personally, I wouldn’t bet on the shareholders of Fannie and Freddie getting their companies back anytime this decade. Although there may be long term value, nobody should count on it for grocery money anytime soon.
My guess is we will eventually see the government pull back on the day to day control of the companies, but they will have to be able to repay the bailout billions first and demonstrate they can raise funds places other than the Federal Reserve. We also will not enjoy these low rates forever."
Source: http://www.vaildaily.com/news/6830670-113/colorswatch-colortext-nonestrokestyle-nothingtext
I think you know that the close yesterday was not what I was referring to.
The drop from over $5 down to under $2 on hundreds upon hundreds of millions in volume would make a little more sense, no? I doubt anyone would call -.01 any type of "plummet." Come on now...
The verbiage in the petition would keep many knowledgable individuals from signing, as it actually makes little sense and is far from effective in terms of portraying the value of its existence in the first place. I am unsure who drafted the thing, but I'd bet it was someone on IHUB, which means something to me.
I look forward to providing a detailed response to your comments when I arrive at home this evening. I am currently out and about doing some property shopping, coincidentally, so I am unable to be thorough at the moment.
I hope you all are having a nice Saturday.
That was not from a newsletter. It was from email correspondence with a friend of mine that writes for a market publication. No I will not give you his contact info so that you can send him some childish message as you do here.
It's hilarious that you have me on ignore yet you reply to all my posts. Strong.
Sure thing...as soon as I get back my office I will do just that...like I said.
As of recent, there are analysts all over the place talking about how this is the riskiest gamble in the market right now. I will post all the links and sources you could ever want as soon as I get back to my office, monk.
But the simple fact is, if you need an analyst to see that this is a scary place to invest, you probably should be playing with money in the first place.
And to those who have sent me PMs, you are welcome... I will continue providing what I can. Cheers.
Why would this be "traceable?" they are not obligated to disclose this type of information to the public. The only reason you knew that they EVER held positions is because they put out PRs saying so in an effort to rally the retail crowd and generate buyers for the shares they were preparing to dump....
Look at a 5 or 10 min chart of the day it went from $5 down to hell. That is what it looks like when institutions methodically dump their positions into the naive retail population. The chart is all the verification one with experience in the market would need. It's very obvious what happened there.
I'm glad I can help you guys understand the evils here...no one else bring this stuff up. Probably because people who truly know what goes on have no reason to visit this board in the first place.... Luckily I am retired and have nothing better to do. Haha
Beautiful Saturday to all!
Speaking of warnings, here's one from an analyst studying Fannie and Freddie:
"Only invest what you are prepared to lose in FNMA and FMCC. The odds are stacked against those with a financial interest in the common stock. There is a good chance these people will wake up one morning and see that the shares they purchased for $2.00 are now valued at less than .20 and falling. This isn't something I would go near with a ten foot pole."
Delusional post of the day! Stock price didn't plummet because of bad press...it plummeted because the institutional investors that you once touted as buying up shares have since dumped said shares back to retailers at a huge profit...that the retailers are unlikely to every see.
Let's try to use good reason here folks. Enough with the conspiracy theories. This is a dangerous stock to hold and that is all there is to it.
I'm unsure what exactly it is that you are asking...
Someone posted a L2 tutorial recently that will probably answer your questions. I have not read it myself, though. Check back through the board and you'll find it.
Goodnight all.
There is no after-hours trading in this stock. Haha. Nice one.
But yes a dump is pending, I'm sure.
What claims are you referring to?
Analyst: "Are Fannie and Freddie eating retailers alive?"
Please only risk what you can afford to lose, as these are truly two of the riskier stocks in trade right now.
Would love to see this thing do well next week though. Who knows...
It's rather absurd to suggest such a thing just because the article's headline isn't "FNMA TO THA MOON" or something.
I think it's more likely that the agenda is publishing articles that would be relevant to their audience.
Are you indicating that every time a media source says something negative about a company, they are short on the company's stock? If not, what makes this particular instance different?
It would indeed....if any such laws existed.
And the difference between what I said and what you said is the fact that you made a specific assertion. I simply said I was reading news, which is a general statement that warrants no factual justification. No one would ever have a doubt about whether or not news exists :)
Lets keep the substance abound here...no need to make a post with the sole purpose of being snide.
Could you explain how it is illegal to "wipe them out?" Or just post the laws germane?
I guess I'm just unsure what it is exactly that you are saying is illegal in that statement. This is interesting to me.
Thanks
That is true... Which is why risk analysis and the management thereof is the name of the game!
Everyone has their own appetite for inherent risks in their investments. Mine might just be lower than yours!
But mostly it all depends on what your goals are and what strategy and rules you decide to utilize. The reality of this is subject to the frame you construct!
I only have access to my phone at the moment... But it's the same news available to you and the rest of the digital world. A google search would likely provide you with all that you're seeking. Best of luck!
I would sure hope they posted billions... Or something would REALLY be wrong.
The problem is that the commons are so unlikely to see any of it :(
It's a shame. I agree.
I was stating that I was reading the news "as we speak." Never did I mention or allude to any other particular event occurring contemporaneously with my post...
Sorry if it came across that way.
The article linked in buccaneer's post focuses on an analyst's opinion that common shareholders should be "wiped out."
An interesting read, as it touches on many of the reasons why this is such an incredibly risky stock for the commons to hold. Thanks for sharing buc.
The ideas presented parallel those that led me to backing out of my own positions in FMCC and FNMA. There is just too much unnecessary risk assumed when holding common stock. If what many believe will happen does in fact happen, there will be no warning for any of us...we will wake up one random morning, look into our portfolio, and see zeros.
What a horrifying experience that will be! No. Thank. You.
Please remind me by reposting the instances you are referring to. I am unaware of any such statement. Thanks.
Solid post. While you "heard" something about good news, I am reading quite a bit of negative news as we speak...news that actually exists. You guys reeeallly need to evaluate the type of risk you are taking here.
I am not saying this will turn out to be a terrible investment, but depending on your strategy, recent developments certainly warrant your reconsideration before taking your position deeper.