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You are correct only the analysts can ask questions...and they are usually limited to the script they have from their investors. They don't deviate usually. Hopefully tomorrow is an exception, but I doubt it.
Not yet. It will.
EPGL posted the PR to the website instead of releasing to the PR Release network. Is that strategic? I think it may be.
I am sure there are many things going on behind the scenes. This is getting exciting now.
This should confirm to you that EPGL is for real and their tech is real. That is good news. Coopervision will have to respond. Coopervision won't want a lawsuit like this. It could tarnish their rep.
Dude it is a fight!!! Harsh words are sometimes needed. Those words were chosen very carefully I am sure.
4.3 billion is more than half of what CooperCompanies is worth. That could have a huge impact on their share price. Not a good thing for Cooper.
The courts won't allow that.
PWC Has money and attorneys.
There is no lawsuit yet. Just a threat of one.
Interesting...wasn't expecting that. Doesn't surprise me though. Big Tech company doesn't have the funds to buyout the tech so they just tie it up so no one can use it. Very interesting move by Coopervision.
All their products are tied up in non-disclosure agreements. EPGL can't say much.
True. Anything can happen at any moment. Yet scheduled announcements like this usually don't have too much impact on pps. They are great for EPGL's progression, so that is good.
Here is what I have learned Major means for EPGL:
Major = Development Agreements | Non-verifiable Contracts | New Technology developments | No Third Party verification. | No impact on PPS | All great things moving EPGL in the right direction.
Here are my definitions:
Groundbreaking = Never been done before and is verifiable | PPS skyrockets
Paramount = More important that anything else and is verifiable | PPS moves higher
Major = important, serious, or significant | No impact on PPS
Formal = Officially sanctioned or recognized | No impact on PPS
Informal = Unofficial style, manner or nature | No impact on PPS
Standard = normal information | No impact on PPS
This helps me not get too excited about things and take the information for what it is worth and stay my long term focus.
I would love for you to be right. I hope you are.
I agree, but at the same time the language in their last PR's is showing that negotiations are not far along and they two sides are far apart on valuation and revenue estimates. I ran the PR past an attorney and he said these deals can last for months and sometimes years just depending on how far along the tech is and how high the demand for the product is.
I would love for it to happen sooner, but this is really a long term stock. Updates are great and show EPGL is progression, but 3rd party verification on deals, buyouts, or agreements is where things will start to get really interesting.
I agree they will secure one an agreement. I also agree it won't be by June 3rd or by the end of this year. If fact I don't think until the end of 2016 to early 2017 is when it will happen. There is no rush for Coopervision. They have all the time in the world.
510k can happen quickly, but they don't . EPGL has developed 16 devices since June of 2013 and still none of the 510k's have been received yet. That is 2 years ago. That means that any new devices and products probably won't be heading for 510k's for a few years, which puts us into 2016 and 2017.
I agree all updates are significant, but not pps significant like you have said. The real increase won't happen until 3rd party verification which doesn't seem like it is really close at all. So for those that are thinking this week is the EPGL "to da moon" party....it just isn't happening. I am just agreeing with you.
EPGL is on the slow and steady model. Which is great for us long term investors. I was hoping for quicker, but that is okay. This is my own opinion obviously.
I am starting to think that EPGL isn't going to be securing a licensing deal. H8ster has been pretty accurate and sounds like from his posts that nothing significant is coming out of this announcement. If we are really waiting for 510k approval or product going to market we won't see much change until 2017 or so.
I was thinking we were much closer than that.
Agreed!! So very true. We all have been patient watching our account increase over the years. I have never held a stock this long in my life. I still haven't sold 1 share either. Pretty exciting.
So many applications for these technologies. I can see how these could be so very valuable to so many products and companies. Can't wait to see this all play out. It has been fun to watch EPGL grow and build their relationships. It will be fun to see what products come of these technologies.
I agree....News = Third Party verification is the flame that will ignite the run. Until that happens all the good news in the world (agreements, development deals, potential deals, etc) won't have any impact on the pps on the stock. Although all that is amazing and it helps EPGL progress and make their future even brighter. The stock price needs third party verification that can be seen by the masses. Hopefully that time is coming soon.
That would be very interesting, because Apple doesn't usually announce buyouts or partnerships at WWDC. That is a software development conference. If Apple is looking for IoT I sure hope they are in talks with EPGL as well. Might as well share the wealth Apple. Wishful thinking I guess.
While I am cautiously optimistic that is the case EPGL did have a conference call last year around a COO earnings call and it was actually mere coincidence. So....there is a chance that if EPGL is still negotiating with Coopervision that nothing will be announced by Coopervision at that point.
Very coincidental. That would be great if Coopervision would release news regarding EPGL.
This is very good news. It will be nice to hear something in the "coming days".
Yes. Coopervision would have to file an 8-K.
Me too. I thought for sure we were on the cusp of a finalized deal.
Unfortunately sounds like it is going to take half a year or more. According to H8ster. Hope he's wrong. I think Cooper and EPGL would be smart to get this done and get the tech out there before the competition catches up. In this environment tech advances are happening everyday and before you know it the tech could be obsolete or insignificant. I thought for sure we would hear the details in May.
Uh....that is much different that what EPGL had said and made it sound like in their tweets. If that is the case I surely hope EPGL clears that up, because that is not how most of us took their communications.
Very well could be. If the demand is great for EPGL tech that is good thing.
I know they will resolve it. I am not worried about that either, just be nice to not have anything else to put their credibility in question. They have been working too long and hard to lose that trust.
They have to file an 8-K within four days.
http://www.sec.gov/answers/form8k.htm
I believe Coopervision ply has a few days to make that info known to all investors. SEC requirement.
Coopervision has to PR that for their investors. It is an SEC compliance issue.
Very true. Hopefully this is happening sooner rather than later. Sure seemed like it was a rush effort by Coopervision to get this tech secured.
It has almost been two months now.
The yield sign is not ideal when trying to build credibility. Hopefully that is fixed shortly. EPGL has too many great things happening to have the yield sign slow them down.
They need a big board company to recognize them. That is all they need. Need confirmation that their tech is legit. Once that happens things will change.
It doesn't. That is what is so funny about it. Smoke and mirrors.
Haha. Go EPGL.
So true!
Uh....a website with info from 2007? Oh boy. With as fact as tech changes now in 2015 waiting 5 years to set up a licensing agreement seems to be pretty old school. Haha! Good luck with that.