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Good goal, and possibly my plan as well, but if it happens there won't be time for those of us getting our LAHO money back and buy MSSV because people with already dry powder will buy it up before we get our money? Unless it can happen overnight, that would be fair!
Why don't they ever put out PR's about the merger and why doesn't Global Stem Cells Group boast about going public if that's what they're doing? Maybe it's normal if you go public via reverse merger!?? I haven't heard Benito Novas saying anything about going public or no news of it in the Latin world that I know of, not sure? There will be some EXTREMELY angry people if this does turn out to be just a fancily decorated scheme with some cheesy scapegoat!!> Hope not!
That's OK PTS, I'll still get you some Olive Garden bread sticks if all goes well. I'd like to apologize in advance, they might be a little stale depending on shipping times!! lol!
It's going to happen! They have to now because if they finished the merger without paying the LAHO investors first, all he** would break loose and all you have to do is go here, https://www.stemcellsgroup.com/ for about 30 minutes, and you'll see what an INCREDIBLE Company Novas has put together here! The man is a GENIUS it's obvious! They'll make back the 8 million LAHO dollars 1000 times over! It would be the dumbest move in history for them not to pay up because they'd never again be trusted and like I said, they'll sell 100 times more shares if they start off on an honest foot vs scamming the original investors who got them there! No brainer!
I sure hope they keep their word but words like, "we expect" and "shortly" are those funny type words that have no set definition. Like I'm expecting that we'll have rain today, but not certain. Or the word "shortly" could mean a lot of things, shortly it'll be Fall time! Shortly in space time, the planets will align again!! Some words can mean a lot of things and OTC people are experts when it comes to using those words! Like I'd rather the letter to have said "we WILL post" instead of "we expect", and in place of "shortly" I'd rather see "we'll be posting final instructions in the next few days" would be more re-assuring words! But I can understand why they use those words, but I still don't like the sound of it! I'm hoping and praying for my money but still know that in the OTC, anything is possible. They could somehow flub it up or break a rule or law and have a scapegoat to blame it on and end up getting a slap on the wrist for making a stupid mistake, like not having a correct address on file!!? I just wish the money would pop back up in my account the same way it vanished! Funny how they can take your money in 2 seconds, but it takes 2 years get money back, lol!!! Good Luck everyone and ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,IT'S MY MONEY AND I WANT IT NOW!!!!! J. G. NOVAS,, 876 CASH NOW!!
I won't buy a single share until I see confirmation 100% even though it's going to be at minimum a good flip for some people, but after all we've been through with LAHO, I'll believe nothing or no one until I see it or am holding it in my hand! In the OTC, ANYTHING can happen!! When the people that are saying somethings going to definitely happen, they are the ones usually holding the most shares, so part of me still doesn't believe it because in my past experiences, they do whatever they want and hardly EVER get in trouble and always have some type of excuse or way of getting out of something!! I'm pretty sure it's going to happen but who's to say they're not just saying whatever they have to to sell MSSV shares. You just never know and I"m sorry to sound skeptical because I've been on the forefront of pushing LAHO/MSSV/GSCG for a long time but with my luck, which is TERRIBLE, I'll never get paid, lol! Maybe this time is for real!!?
Does is say funds are secured? Did I miss something?
Have you Emailed the company to ask Chat?, instead of asking us who don't own the Company! So many intriguing questions and a simple email could easy your duress!? Or just ask Google, that girl knows EVERYTHING!!!!
Not to sell MSSV shares that's for sure. The company probably requested it so people would stop calling them 200 time a day. They're obviously not hiding dilution because there's no volume!
And I got news for you too! As long as I wake up again tomorrow, it's a GREAT life, win or lose! In my mind, I wrote off this money a long time ago! If I get paid, fantastic! If I don't, it's the OTC and what to expect! But we will get paid! Heck, they'll end up with all the shares of Global Stem Cells Group! 8 million dollars is actually pocket change compared to what they'll make off of GSCG IMO!
So why WOULDN'T Benito want to take the Company public? If they wanted people to buy MSSV shares NOW they would pump the crap out of it! Global cold make millions/billions and become World known! LOGIC! COMMON SENSE! IMO
You do know that the top players and execs involved here have long track records of success and integrity!!? Linkeden is a good place to start. A little DD would make you realize they'd have to be insane to needlessly do that! Not to mention, Benito Novas is almost legendary in his field, he wouldn't let ANYBODY drag his name through the mud! IMO
I just think Dave and Benito where friends. Benito Novas with a rapidly growing awesome Stem Cell and Regenerative Medicine company who wants to be listed publicly for all the reasons anyone does. And Dave had a floundering shell that wasn't doing much, probably losing money so they would use the shell to go public via reverse merger instead of the traditional and more expensive and complicated IPO. They probably knew that there was a chance they could get suspended but also knew that if they DID get suspended for being late, there were plenty of other dud shells they could pay to finish the merger which is where MSSV came in. And who knows, MSSV might have already been pre-selected as the 2nd vehicle should the first one, LAHO, get suspended which they did! The part that they may not have anticipated is that all their doctor buddies and friends and grandma's and uncles and business associates, their hairdressers, etc, etc, etc, had found out about LAHO and bought a couple million dollars worth. So when it got suspended, Dave and Benito decided they'd have to resolve the situation with the escrow and payback everyone and keep things on the level. Of course they could have said Benito changed his mind and just bankrupted LAHO, why didn't they do that?? Because they ARE going public and they want to be honest and they don't want to screw all their friends, family and shareholders as well! Global would be cursed forever if they started out by screwing a bunch of investors including everyone that knew them, lol! But as with most stocks or ventures, I'm sure they can structure things where an offering or selling of GSCG shares will ultimately pay back the 8 million dollar escrow, not Dave or Benito! EVERYONE WILL MAKE BIG MONEY IF THEY JUST FINISH THE MERGER WHICH THEY JUST HAPPENED TO MAKE OFFICIAL JUST RECENTLY IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY! OH YEAH, Here it is:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/meso-numismatics-global-stem-cell-100000878.html
It's going to be a big winner you shall see!
All IMO, I'm not trying to pump but this is what seems very logical to me! Why would Dave OR Benito who are both very successful need to do a penny scam???
Why fake it when you can REALLY do it!!
That's like taking 20 dollar bills, bleaching them and counterfeiting them into 5's. You've got a billion dollar Company that should have an incredible future so why would you not??
Some people as your theory indicates are hoping that this isn't real and don't happen for various reasons! SMH!
Because that type of news has nothing to do with stem cells and I believe they did post a second update, but then it turned into a mess so they just decided to remove it from the page as it wasn't appealing. It's the type news that 99% of the traffic on Global Stem Cells site don't care about and was only used as a more practical and less expensive way to get their company listed on an exchange so you can sell your Company to the public and use the capital to GROW your Company that much quicker!! So I'm glad they took it off of their website because it didn't fit in with all the other news pieces which are about events, and there are only 33 PR's listed in total between Nov 9th 2019 and May 30th 2021 and all of them are about conferences or breakthroughs or partnerships or new advancements in stem cell therapy, I wouldn't want that on my site really, it probably had to be there for legal reasons since it was a legal material matter and they probably had to post it for a certain length of time.? And I'm sure Benito isn't real proud of using a friends Shell Company as an inexpensive means to get his Company publicly listed and then have that stock get suspended, then use another shell to finish the merger. Has nothing to do with stem cells and he just wants to get it done and in the meantime, he's all over the world being famous in his industry!
Get ready to "download the repurchase agreement to the shareholder for execution from this site at
www.lans.holdings. "
Yes, I've been waiting 2 years. Fortunately I've had all kinds of other fun plays and don't really worry about LAHO anymore! When you've made and lost as much and as many times as I have in 30 years, you get used it and have a short memory!! This is the OTC for heaven's sake, A Wall St Casino! Place your bets, anything can happen!
Thanks Harbor6460, such an informative and well thought out post! I appreciate such wisdom!
Looks like the exact plan you'd have if you were trying to buyback 75% of your float by then end of 2021! Anyone who believes Jef really intends on buying back 75% with up to 5 million dollars should know that the ONLY way to achieve this is for the share price to be down around .001 to .0015! The math works perfect and the run to .02 in Feb when all OTC stocks were booming delayed the plan a little because it's taken longer to let the PPS get into a feasible range to complete the buyout! If the PPS doesn't get down to that level, he may very well have to do an R/S so it looks like he's doing EVERYTHING he possibly can to pull off the buyback and NOT do a R/S! So anyone long should just be quiet, not promote the Company and accumulate while Jef hopefully pulls this off! If he can it will launch BBRW into the stratosphere and beyond! IMO!
they got laho suspended for diluting the company 3.7 billion shares in 3 month.
Well here's their answer to that. A mistake?
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/suspensions/2019/34-86883-o.pdf
MSSV wasn't even part of the deal until AFTER the LAHO shares were suspended! And letting them resume on the gray would've been a catastrophe IMO! Using the MSSV shell which was a dead ebay coin selling scam in the first place, probably was the best way to resolve the situation!
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2019/11/29/1954018/0/en/Meso-Numismatics-Enters-Into-Binding-LOI-with-Global-Stem-Cells-Group-Part-of-Overall-Transaction-with-Lans-Holdings.html
You can waste your money on a lawsuit, go right ahead! Lawyer wants your money regardless if there's a chance of winning which there's not IMO! Good luck!
What are the grounds for suing? They never intended to get suspended! I mean, should every Company that has hardships or delays in a venture get sued? You can sue anybody for anything really but what are the grounds for the suit? I don't see what they did wrong, AND they're showing good will and apparently are trying to work things out! I don't think there is a legal time limit on this merger is there? A lawsuit at this point doesn't seem right, but go for it! If they don't pay us the escrow, then I'd sue! And from what I've read, escrow money usually gets disbursed withing 30 to 60 days. But I'm not a lawyer so, idk? I want us ALL to make money! Good luck however it goes guys!
Good work! He'll tell you, why don't you at least wait and see if they're going to pay the LAHO investors! You can't SUE them for taking longer than you had hoped to! What laws have they broken and what would your lawsuit say??? "I'm suing them because their stock got suspended, had to figure out another vehicle to finish their merger than I expected them to finish quicker??" Go for it, but if I was a judge I'd look at it and laugh you out of the courtroom for being too impatient! But it's your money, give it to the lawyer, I'm sure he needs more!?
And still NOBODY can come up with a logical reason that LAHO would announce an 8.2 million dollar escrow to pay us back unless they meant to do it!! It would be INSANE to do unless true! Saying you're going to put 8.2 million in an escrow is saying you have the money to do it! So not paying it would just open yourself up to MORE lawsuits and hostilities! Just letting it fade away would have been the smartest thing to do if they weren't going to pay us! They could have EASILY just went BK and Benito could go public using another shell or method! I think those who doubt this is true haven't spent over 10 minutes here
[url]https://www.stemcellsgroup.com/
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And why would Benito structure Global stem cells group into an umbrella of 11 companies running under independently of each other????? Because logically it makes sense to get listed on the NASDAQ, use the money from that to grow all the businesses more then spin them off or sell them one by one!!!! Benito is a marketing genius and gives lectures in marketing as well as Stem cells. He's a genius with a GREAT plan if it really happens which I think it will! Everyone has to decide for themselves! But unlike most websites, it would take you 10 hours or more to see all there is to see at Global Stem Cells Group! Just in the last two years they've went from 5 or 6 companies, to now 15 companies, in two years! So what's the hurry, they're still setting things up TO GO PUBLIC!!! IMO
Silly, Benito is super successful! What does he have to gain by scamming some investors when he's already got one of the greatest lives ever, just look through his facebook pictures!! C'mon! Plus, sense I own NO MSSV, it's not worth arguing about anymore, I'll just wait and see!
It's America, we all get to make our own decisions! Me for one, when investing in the OTC, pink, non reporting riskiest stocks, I take responsibility for my losses because that's the norm! But why offer 8.2 million dollars to us? Does ANYTHING make sense other than it being real? It's either really happening, or a HUGE STUPID PRANK! Stem Cells are the FUTURE of medicine and Global Stem Cells Group could make billions IMO as a Nasdaq stock!! Global is a VERY dynamic busy Company from what I see so what's the hurry? Whether they go public in 2021 or 2022 it might not matter to them. Perhaps it's a little early for stem cells and they're thinking that the next 3 to 5 years will be when it goes mainstream! We will get the answers soon hopefully but I keep going back to the question of WHY would they NOT finish the merger? Option 1 is finish the merger, and make millons or option 2, just keep stalling everyone, not selling MSSV shares, not making money, not going public and not making millions!!"? Why would they choose option 2 when, option 1 is obviously much, much more lucrative?? Or so it would seem! And to go with option 1 and make it all happen might just require them to pay us the 8.2 million otherwise the SEC wouldn't let them go merge and go public as GSCG! If Global went public and started selling shares I'm sure you wouldn't the 8.2 million dollar LAHO debacle cloud hanging over your head labeling you as crooks would you? Would look HORRIBLE, unethical, and possibly be illegal to do it that way!! Paying us back is the only fair thing to do and I see nowhere in Benito's past that looks shady, he's already super successful and his reputation means EVERYTHING to a guy in his line of work!!!? So what's your theory of the 8.2 million dollar offer which started as a preferred share offer? Why all the switching of strategies and such if it's not going to happen? Educate me! Stocks usually get suspended because they're BROKE, BK. LAHO was different, and was suspended in the midst of a possibly MONUMENTAL merger!! Makes NO sense at all! The SEC could have simple called Benito to confirm that he DID intend on merging and going public!? I think those betting against LAHO who are used to these LOI's all being fake got caught with their pants down and blew the whistle and got them suspended. No telling what the shady truth of that was. Time will tell. I'm not pumping and as a matter of fact I hope NOBODY buys MSSV stock until they PROVE their intentions are real! I haven't and will not buy MSSV unless I get my 14 thousand dollars back if I do! Good luck!
I just give my opinion. I'm just a regular guy who works in a pawn shop. I don't know what's going to happen but can't make sense of why they would offer 8 million and not pay it? What's the point! I don't represent any Company and I have no credibility to begin with, just an opinion like everyone else. The only thing I can say as to how long it's been taking is, that maybe they're not in a huge hurry to pay us because their normal business is operation same as usual! We'll see, I hope I'm right, but I might not be, IDK
Gee guys, let it play out!! If you had to pay a group of investors 8 million dollars that would instantly push MSSV over 1.00,IMO, avoid years of legal issues, and get their merger closed, then Global Stem Cells Group going public and possibly make billions once you get on an exchange, wouldn't you? Small investment for such a huge payback? If they're not being sincere PLEASE, PLEASE tell me a reason or theory as to why they'd promise a large group of investors their money back two years after a stock was suspended! That 8 million dollar promise would be as bad a mistake as you could possibly make if you were planning on scamming or folding... WHY 8 million?? Who would dare do that? They could have just let the deal flounder forever until we all just fade away. That's what most OTC junk stocks do, you never hear from them again. Because if they feared legal action, promising 8 million dollars to the people that lost on LAHO would be the absolute dumbest thing to do? And changing the payback method multiple times??? A scam wouldn't do that... Common sense boys! I know it's unheard of in the OTC but there's a first time for everything! Good luck!
This site explains different reasons for Escrowed shares. Helps to understand how our process might work. I'm just wondering what "t"s and "i"s need to be crossed and dotted? I think in general escrows take 30-60 days but I'm sure that's not set in stone!? Here's the link.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/escrowedshares.asp
Bankruptcy or Reorganization
A company's shares may be suspended from trading during a bankruptcy filing or a company reorganization, pending the resolution of the corporate action. In this case, a shareholder's holding will be converted to escrow shares and then converted back to their original form if any equity remains in the company after the completion of the bankruptcy or reorganization process.
I'm gonna wet my self when that downloadable repurchase agreement form appears on the lans.holding site. I'll have mine back in the mailbox asap!
https://lans.holdings/
SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD HAPPEN SOON RIGHT PTS??
I've thought and thought and thought and thought about it and I cannot for the life of me come up with a logical explanation as to why they would drag this out for 2 years other than the latest solution from LAHO!!?? Can ANYONE think of a logical or stategic reason for LAHO to tell us they're setting up an escrow for 2.8 million dollars and paying us,,,, then not????
Anyone???
Seems like that would be the WORST thing they could do!? In the OTC you never know and anything's possible and we've talked about this a few times already but I'm trying to convince myself that a check is coming soon!
Waiting is definitely the hardest part!
36 million share bid? Jef is that you? Are you buying back shares and not recording the millions of revenues you've taken in as revenues? There are ways of delaying revenue numbers to allow your stock to wither down to the only PPS you can succeed in the buyback!!?
I think all the way back to the 2nd merger PR where after LAHO got suspended. This PR confirmed to me that apparently Benito and Daves friends were loaded up too! I'm not positive but there was a good reason, otherwise they could just say darn, we got suspended and Benito could have bowed out of the deal, then just go public another way! I'd just love to know the truth to the wHOLE story! Which isn't over btw! The only reason I can think of is that Benito Novas values his reputation and image more than ANYTHING else! More than 8 million bucks which he probably knows he will make 100 times that once they finish the merger and he's got about 800 billion shares of GSCG!! IMO!!! The 800 billion is a slight exaggeration!
You're going to have a negative view no matter what happens! If we get .002 per share you'll say we should have gotten .004. To me it just appears that those who are unhappy are NOT LAHO former shareholders as we're all pretty happy about the proposal, speaking for myself of course! The OTC is very risky to begin with ESPECIALLY a non current stock! I had written it off in my mind many months ago and was actually surprised at their good faith offer! What makes it possible to fix this debacle IMO is that Benito Novas is a BIG SHOT with hundreds of doctor friends and most likely very good relationships with lenders as well! He'll be worth a few hundred million dollars in a few more years! Not to mention he will have many, many of his own shares which if things go as planned and they go nasdaq or something he'll make his personal shares will probably increase 100 fold! I'm just throwing out numbers but he's doing what he has to do to get this merger completed and maintain his spotless reputation!! He's the Man IMO!! A good family man as well just as Dave is! These are good guys who where both quite successful before this venture began! Dave had lots of experience and supposedly is a logistical genius and involved with several companies! Benito, just go to his site, youtube, fbook, linkedin, he's everywhere and living like a millionaire without selling shares!
So If you loan me 50 grand to start a business and I do and it becomes successful, you think I shouldn't pay you back because it's not good business sense!??
BTW, I'm out of posts, but GLOBAL STEM CELLS GROUP is a 10 year old Company in the regenerative and stem cell training business! This is the future, youth, beauty, and medical applications! I've seen stem cell research where they severed mice spinal columns making them paralyzed, then using stem cells repair the spinal tissue reversing paralysis!!! Amazing stuff!
I'll add this video while I still have time to edit.
How is it a waste if the future of your merger and uplisting and getting people to buy into your company as well as your reputation depends on it! Some people are righteous and fair and don't only think about themselves and every penny! Sometimes giving money for a certain cause can be a smart strategy and maybe the only way this merger could finish!
I don't have PM right now, but spending 8 million for your company to survive and go to the nasdaq makes PERFECT sense and most on this board agree with me from what I can tell!
Here's an interview with Benito, watch it Chat. I'm not debating you anymore because it won't do any good. I'm thinking you're just wanting to exclude LAHO investors, the ones who made it possible! I say ONLY the LAHO investors should benefit and you and the MSSV shareholders should still be selling junky coins on ebay
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And supposing Global Stem Cells Group makes it to Nasdaq to get Institutional investors! How would it look on them if it became known that the investors that made the merger happen, got cheated out of their investment! Terrible, embarrassing, shameful!! Global is MUCH, MUCH BIGGER than you think! We're talking a potential BILLION dollar Company, and you're worried about 8 million that you rightfully owe to your original investors. Benito Novas would get blamed for using a shell that wasn't current, not the investors because that was all LAHO was for. An empty shell to affordably use to do a merger and uplist
I'm not going to explain again if you don't understand! MSSV is a secondary vehicle to finish the merger with GSCG. LAHO money made it happen! He owes it to us! They'll make 80 million dollars off of that 8.2 million investment. If you don't understand that, you'll never understand. because MSSV will NEVER go up if he don't pay up! If he does, MSSV will go to DOLLARS!!! Seems simple to me I don't see what you don't understand! It wasn't the original plan but it's what he thinks is best for all involved!! And like I said, it's not money out of their pocket. They'll sell millions of MSSV shares to pay for it probably! Geez, so easy to understand but you don't! BTW, I've owned a small business for almost 40 years. We throw money away money on advertising to build our image and reputation as well as attract customers and it more than pays for itself! Image is everything!
Wish I would have loaded on the first time I saw it at .04 and had about 3 times as much in my account! The last 3 months have been brutal for me. I should be used to it. I get my account real fat, then lose it, then get it fat again, then lose it! I'd be a multi millionaire if I could just hit two or three 10 baggers but just haven't been that good or lucky!!!
It's not a waste, that's what you don't seem to see! We, the LAHO investors spent way more than 8 million dollars into this venture!!? So it's paying back what was invested in you! There's a thing called integrity, and a few people still have it! It's not a waste, it's an investment into his reputation and future, and it will pay for itself many times over IMO! Anyway, it's probably money he'll borrow, then pay back by selling shares of MSSV so it's not coming out of his pocket,, just a paper shuffle really!
Yes, but if you study Benito, you find a GREAT MAN who would rather pay the 8 million than lose his friends and reputation! I'm almost certain of it! He's a VERY highly acclaimed guy Worldwide!!! Plus I think being honest and investing the 8 million and saving his reputation will more than pay for itself in the end when MSSV explodes to dollars, and he merges and finishes his plan with a spotless reputation and a hero. He didn't want to have to do it but it will make up for itself several times over at this point!! IMO
True, but Benito and Dave knew this, they were'n't trying to scam anyone in the first place, but they thought they were going finish the merger without the suspension and stated they had talked to the SEC about their plan to get current, many other companies were much later on their filings and until the pps starting going way up and anti LAHO people started calling the SEC 84 times a day complaining or it could be something much worse related to shorts losing large amounts getting the SEC to suspend the stock, unexpectedly to Benito and Dave. They got screwed and so did all their buddies and family members who were probably loaded up with LAHO too because they had been tipped off that it was going to explode upwards. So when the suspension happened it put Benito in a bad spot! The two ways out of that spot are
A. Let LAHO go BK and tell the investors sorry, Benito no longer wants to merge with LAHO and Benito would be off the hook and Dave and LAHO would get a slap on the wrist.
B. Figure out a way to finish the merger AND not screw those who invested in LAHO and work out a plan to pay them and finish the merger. Benito decided to take it on the chin and put up the escrow and finish his merger, go public, ring the bell on wall street, and make billions of dollars!
I think he chose option B to save his reputation and pay his friends back!