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Criminally complicit- working together to protect their Hedge Fund buddies that are “too big to fail”. That’s crap it’s a set up so they can never lose or worse have us, the taxpayers bail them out. No reason this should not be at $30 now except their buddies would lose money
Ok. AS with original OS
Keep freezing it to let their buddies get caught up. They can only stop it so many times before they close it down for the day?
Its showing 85.62 OS on E*TRADE
It’s amazing how the incestuous circle of protecting the Hedge Funds works.
I was talking to my good buddy Charles about Bioamber Inc. He said Pet it and the stock will grow.
There is something in the Name:
Oh yeh Bioamber Inc.
I agree it’s complex, I wish we could go back and see all the “behind the scenes” actions and planning from all parties.
It’ll cash out for us.
We all know Bioamber Inc was mismanaged at best for a few years. The only question is, and I refer back to my 2018 posts, was it a “set up” to dump all the debt into one and get everything else out of it separately? Of course it was
Has not to do with a fairytale. When things come to light, it’s not a fairytale. The only question to be asked is “Why would information like this be hidden in the first place? Doesn’t seem like hiding anything like that would be legitimate.
Bioamber Inc will be paid out but I’m simply pointing out the “Face hidden” behind the “mask”. If things can’t be deviled upfront then it’s usually not a good thing.
I sure hope everything gets settled up before the Chinese actions are exposed or we will be held up forever.
IMO
Regarding Bioamber Inc, which was greatly affected by China’s influence and malfeasance along with other US companies, Universities and financial interests affected are in the process of being removed from the US, it’s markets and institutions. The start of the Chinese collapse. Retribution
The question? When did China get involved in the Bioamber Inc. a US company transaction? Taiwan and Hong Kong have numerous Chinese fronts. Hong Kong just yesterday was listed by the US State department as NO LONGER Autonomous from China!
There is something in a name. Bioamber Inc. Of course two were in Canada.
Are you contesting that China-is involved?
President Trumps Executive Order and Proclamation on 05-29-2020 to review and restrict Chinas roles in the US Markets will bring to light the Chinese influence that has occurred over bribing and Stealing intellectual properties from American companies because the Chinese have subverted the rules which American investors play by. Look at the US universities that have had Professors on China’s payroll, Chinese Army personnel posing as student lab techs with University staff compensated illegally and undisclosed in order to thwart the legalUS process and protections in place. President Trump has created a Presidential task force and review committee for all Chinese business and dealings that have American investors. It appears that they are developing a hotline to report such Malfeasance. China has played this way in the Bio markets setting up 2nd and 3rd downstream companies that have paid off, bribed and stolen companies and technology from US companies and investors through these “set up” companies to only in the end to have these “purchased” companies to be turned completely over to China’s government through illegal straw purchases.
Straw purchasers are 3rd parties (LCY and VISOLIS) set up and Financed by the main player (China) to subvert the normal course of business, to deprive in this case a fair and equitable purchase to shareholders. Also patents, Trademarks and other trade secrets are stolen with willing and knowing involved parties.
1) Where has Bioamber Inc Bio technology ended up? Looks like China
2) What purchasers facilitated this process?
3) Where did VISOLIS get its money, who arranged the Angel investing for VISOLIS?
4) What role did LCY play in an agreement with China’s approval to fund the purchase(s)?
5) Who were the indirect facilitating parties (Canada USA)on behalf of China?
6) Which country now controls Bioamber Inc.’s patents, trademarks and trade secrets?
With President Trumps announcement in the Rose Garden yesterday and the New Task Force set up to expose China’s corruption in US University technological thefts and Thefts from US Shareholders it’s only a matter of time that the pieces to the puzzle are put together to show those complicit in the manipulation of markets and acquisition of US companies by China through fraudulent means with help from knowing US and other parties. This Bioamber Inc case is a perfect case study for them and I believe should be reported as such.
Watch what happens, there is something in a name, REMEMBER THAT WAS SAID HERE! Look into the details, it’s going to be paid for. The new can’t start being profitable before the old is cleared away. If not, the old would be entitled to benefit of all new creations to the point where the situation is rectified.
In all the wrangling away, PWC and others did, they missed something very important.
I will leave you all with this for the night!!
Bioamber Inc, there is something in the name! This will sort itself out. Bioamber Inc time is on our side. Value increases over time.
Looking forward to the GOOD THINGS COMING!!
Quite a lot of interest in a “dead empty shell”
Played both sides of the fence on Bioamber? The good thing is everyone is aware. Shares will do what they do here.
That’s a fake screen shot?
The game here? Hold your shares, don’t write them off just yet. This will resolve itself soon. The attention given to these shares is for a reason, that reason? For opposition to have gained majority. Didn’t happen. Now what’s the game. Finalize the suit and then we will see.
Private or public we still are the shareholders and rightful owners of all that is tied to BioAmber (Bioamber) Inc.
Some will say oh yeh the debt ridden empty shell but when it’s all said and done, anything created or derived from our owned items will create more value for us.
Some things created through our owned items and rights could even create value in perpetuity!!
Hope that you are doing well!!
Will this go anywhere? Who knows?
My simple question is this
If I steal a car and it’s bought under
Fraudulently terms is it not returned to the owner, no matter how many hands it’s passed through. There is no buffer just by handing it off from party to party. The victim is still protected.
Will KKR be roped in to a PWC Fiasco with Bioaq handling?
I know the word FRAUD could never be used in the same sentence with PWC.
Examples -
1) India Satyam case being banned from audits for 2 years
2 &3)Taylor Bean & Whitaker Mortgage 5.5 Billion
Colonial Bank collapse 625 million
The last one forced that PWC claims they were not responsible for looking for fraud in their course of business was non-sense. They are required to do so.
I can keep listing the cases
Ok I must have lost connection because my page is updating but not showing a response. I thought this T1 was pretty good service.
Bioa(q) still has a heartbeat?
And NDA’s or cover pages for them?
I’ll be upfront first, I have no connection to anyone but as a shareholder. Do you have any ties to any players in this entire transaction, direct or indirectly?
We have only seen what PWC has allowed us to see? Could there be things prior to CCAA or court actions that we have not seen? Legitimately or illegally withheld?
You’ve seen the NDA’s and all agreements? Just asking
Let’s set the stage of a what if-
If the players got together, signed NDA’s came to a business arrangement, then under the name of Bioa filed with the courts, losing some debt along the way, some kind of bidding process occurred that magically worked out for Visolis-LCY, then to LCYB and LCY owned by KKR. Why else would bidders names be revealed and ENO tank the price? Price goes to high, that hurts the business arrangement. Hmmm that means the monitor would have to have knowledge of it or they are really incompetent. I mean a bunch of organized shareholders would never be able to get together and follow through on any action to hold anyone to account right? Lol
We will see, oh in the world of what ifs???
Anyone on here knows my sincere Skepticism of PWC and the actions taken. It’s one of 2 things if it’s truly a 363 transaction. Major fraud on the court and during the “sealed” “Bidding” process with full knowledge and responsibility of all players, except those who were losing bidders and ultimate shareholders or THE SHAREHOLDERS WILL GET PAID THE FMV WHEN IT STARTED.
If that was a 363 and it’s legitimate, it seems as though it was a poke in the face of shareholders, that the NewCo to Naxos who is still responsible attempted to make/receive a fleeting undisclosed payment to rectify their shareholder responsibilities. NOT SO!
This will be made right. Just my take going from that one particular item posted.
Interesting
Look at this like a savings account. When all is said and done, shareholders are going to demand full compensation plus any additional costs on top of compensation. Gone are the days of using my property to make money off of my property for just pennies on the dollar. People-money-connections in their dealings is what will resolve this.
Well there was said to be email communications stating such demands from Mica. I have a feeling all these communications will come to light. I just wonder if PWC is dumb enough to try and hide some of them. As a fraud investigator in my prior life, there is nothing better than legally requesting certain documents and when both sides turn over documents, one side conveniently is missing communications. There are other ways to get these documents without either party providing them. Hope everyone is well, I’m glad in my time away that nothing has changed. Lots of discussion just shows it’s an unsettled matter.
Oh that’s an answer. Just add the OS and the AS together that’s what’s at stake on the short side. Without a doubt!!
Going to the grays to shake it. Not going to be shaken. We definitely hold the Super Majority
We talking about “Legally”? In the US Market only. Let’s be honest about it
Win bio Amber goes to the gray sheets and it will do not sell that is the ploy
Exactly what it was, a Pontius Pilot moment, implementing the means then claiming innocence. This will be poured over and critiqued. It didn’t take the responsibility away from and it won’t work for PWCC.
I’ve said it before in this process, my previous life I worked fraud and forensics of this type. Too many telltale signs!!
It’s not going to go away but what usually gets people caught is the attempt to cover it up. Those lots have been cast and this always reviewable.
We will let this play out and just see what kind of pull our boy at PWCC has and what was planned out prior to the CCAA.
Just holding we don’t
See a need to respond
GLTA
Make a simple prediction
100% hold shares, this
Will come to an end.
Holding shares.
Don’t let go of anything
Think who that would
Benefit
Holding Shares vs Write-offs.
It’s about control of shares.
Holding!!
Remember the Ace in the hole and the final card to be played is in the shareholders hands. Possession of shares might just be the catalyst we need.
Don’t take yourself out of the game.