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Bankruptcy is not an option. ASTI has clearly demonstrated this by selling its Enerplex trademark. Why waste time signing such agreements if it is to then go bankrupt ... ASTI is clearly placing the game for something very positive ... ISO, sale of the brand ... it smells good .
Bankruptcy is impossible. Will the title bounce back to $ 0.01, $ 0.03 or $ 0.10, I'm not sure, but I'm sure it will end up ride up. Technology, products, network, future contracts, design, space exploration, ISO certification .... it's not worth anything if you do not make money ... it's true. .. but the money is coming for sure.
We do not wash the windows of a house that is on fire .... we do not take the time to seek ISO certification if the company is close to bankruptcy.
And, most IMPORTANT, nobody invests 20 million in a boat that is sinking.
ASTI goes quietly OR quickly back up, but it will go up!
When the ASTI title was at about $ 0.01 and climbed to $ 0.03 in a few days, I made about $ 300,000. I took half to repay my mortgage and with the rest, I reentered the blow with ASTI.
$ 150,000 at an average cost of approximately $ 0.006. I have 25,000,000 shares.
No bankruptcy for ASTI. Impossible.
20,000,000,000 x $ 0.003 = $ 60,000,000.
Even in the worst case, with the maximum of shares outstanding, it is clear that ASTI's value varies is more than 60 million. $ 1 / share? Probably not. But $ 0.015, I believe.
Buy ASTI, the title can only go back in the medium term!
Do not be scared, ASTI will not go bankrupt!
DON'T BE AFFRAID, ASTI
ASTI IS THE BEST
ASTI IS GOOD
Obviously, everyone will have understood that I laughed comments of the style: "Look at the past of ASTI !! The title has declined, it can not do otherwise than lower in the future !!!".
I do not believe in any magical thinking, but I do not believe either that looking back is a good investment strategy either.
Looking at the last 3 days, the title of ASTI has finished up every time ... so, according to the reasoning of the "backwards march", we should therefore assume that the next 3 days will be rising ...
And in 6 days, it will be assumed that the next 6 days will continue to rise ...
Magic as reasoning not?
No joke, a trend is never irreversible, the road sometimes turns!
Since how many years ASTI has "operating" deficit in its results?
Nice rhyminrhymin, at least you are consequently, even mentioning a force of ASTI, you manage to insert a negative critic !!
If we forget the market, the fall in stock prices, dilutions, financing and the panic of the shareholders and that for a moment, we only wonder about the COMPANY. What are the gestures, problems or difficulties that ASTI has really encountered in recent months? Is this worse than that?
Sales are not yet in place, and the expenses are still large ... and then it's typical of a company moving from the R & D phase to the marketing phase ... no?
If in one year or two it is still the same situation, then we can talk about a company that has missed the development of its product, but for now, are shareholders not only too impatient ?
Hey rhyminrhymin, I give you a challenge, to have fun: give us a strength or a quality of ASTI? Just for once.
And the SEC?
I lost money, you lost money (and a lot if I trust your comments) and many investors have lost a lot of money. It is unfortunate but rationally, do you really believe that all this is part of a vast strategy of conspiracy put in place by the leaders of ASTI ?? Really??
The panic sometimes takes hold of investors and everything gets carried away, prices fall, people sell and prices fall even more ... the deadly spiral for investors ... but the company goes so badly that ? Not necessarily!
To continue with my example of the black box, it is always worrying for investors not to know what is going on in the box and that is why panic seizes shareholders. But when people "in the black box" invest more money, it's a VERY positive sign that the company is not going that bad.
Am I CERTAIN that the shares will go up very important in the short term? Of course not, otherwise I would have already re-mortgaged my house to bet all on ASTI. But do I think that ASTI has a medium to long-term future and that the markets will gradually realize and relocate? I strongly think so.
What is good when one is a follower of the conspiracy theory is that everything can be interpreted in this sense. Every clue always points to the plot ... and when there is no clue ... well it's just because the conspiracy is even better! Wonderful! Thank you for your insightful comments rhyminrhymin.
We agree, the value of patents go through the profits that can be generated by their use. And unfortunately, I do not know the answer to the big question: How much profit can be generated with these intangible assets!
ASTI is like a black box right now, we do not know what's going on in it ... and there's not a lot of information coming out ... we must try to evaluate the value of the box with this little information.
On the other hand, an investor who agrees to add 20 million in the box must surely have been able to open the lid of this box ... and no matter what he saw, it was enough to risk 20 million. No matter the level of fortune of this investor, rare are those who want to burn 20 million without hope of a good return.
You are right. But in assets, it is also necessary to consider the value of intangible assets such as patents. How much is this technology worth ??
You wrote "rien ne fonctionne". Do you speak french?
Francophone DUMBOF?
So ATLANTA1, do you have a conspiracy theory for us? Where did all this money go? Do you only have questions full of "underlying" or if you also have answers to share with us ??
It would be fun if you also brought ideas or concrete information on the subject of ASTI.
Obviously, if every dollar earned from the sale of new shares is eventually spent in annual losses, the "real" value will gradually decline, but between tonight and tomorrow morning, ASTI will not spend much money ... so its "True" value will be the same tomorrow morning ... but maybe not its stock market value ...
I understand ATLANTA1 that you feel attacked when people have opinions different from yours ... but waits a little, what are your opinions ??? Have you ??
I understand that you may perhaps have a different opinion, but shares there at least.
It's easy to say that others do not understand when they do not have the same ideas as us ... teach me ATLANTA1, let us share your knowledge that seems so great!
Why should my opinion be naïve?
ASTI will be the same company tomorrow morning as it was tonight ... BUT, shareholders who do not understand anything will probably liquidate their shares in panic!
The price of the share is likely to fall considerably, but will ASTI have the same balance sheet and the same forecast of the future ... ?? CERTAINLY.
The short-term reactions of shareholders are often irrational ... Am I trying to take advantage of it? Sure, as soon as possible, when it is to my advantage. But it does not change the fact that in the medium and long term, it is not the panic reactions of shareholders misinformed that will fix the value of ASTI.
Regardless of the price of the share, how much is ASTI actually worth? Is anyone in a position to answer that question? Probably very few people and unfortunately I do not.
On the other hand, I'm sure of one thing is that ASTI will not be cheaper tomorrow morning than it was worth tonight when the markets closed ...
The announcement that the number of shares authorized may increase to 20 billion (instead of 2 billion) does not decrease and does not increase the real value of ASTI !!
I will even say some incredible for several ... the dilution does not automatically decrease the value of a company!
Simple Example: Suppose I own 100% of a company's 100,000 shares. This company has $ 80,000 in cash and expects to make $ 50,000 in profit each year in the future. Suppose this company is worth $ 530,000 (9 x profits + cash). The value of my shares is therefore $ 530,000 / 100,000 shares = $ 5.30 / share.
What happens if the company issues 200,000 additional shares to new shareholders in exchange for $ 1,060,000 (200,000 shares x $ 5.30)? As a result of the issuance, the Company will have $ 1,140,000 (80K + 1060K) of cash and its value will now be $ 1,590,000 ($ 9 x $ 50,000 + $ 1,140,000) or $ 5,30 / shares ($ 1,590,000 / 300,000 shares).
What will be the value of my shares after dilution ...? $ 100,000 x $ 5.30 = $ 530,000 ... the same value as before! Magic!
However, I will own only 33% of the company whereas before I owned 100%.
The issuance of new shares will DILUATE MY VOTING POWER, BUT NOT MY VALUE!
I know some of them will find my example very simplistic, but wait to see the reaction of the ASTI title tomorrow morning and you will understand why I'm trying to do some education in this board...
"Look at the chart!", "Look at trends!", some talk about fluctuations in the stock market as meteorologists look at climate clues to predict the weather ... The stock market is not "alive", it does not obey to a climate model ...
Never forget that behind every transaction, there are investors who are trying to make money with their investment. Some are well informed, others follow the wave, others do anything ... graphics are a visual representation of the reaction of all these investors ... Pinksheet or not, it is the same fight.
To take again my example of weather, it is as if looking at the temperature yesterday, I try to predict what it will do tomorrow. If yesterday it was hot, maybe tomorrow it will be hot too, but what will it do in a week or a month ??
Making investment decisions by looking at "graphics" is the same!
Everyone has their own way of investing. Can we make mistakes even in making rational decisions? Certainly! But maybe less often.
Some know poker? This is the same as for professional poker players. Can an amateur have a stroke of luck and win? It's certain! But professional players, with time, earn more often!
Totally agree!
I do not understand your point. Maybe you did not understand my first message or maybe it's my difficulty with the English language but I do not understand your message.
ASTI is a legal shell with assets, debts, income and expenses. If someone buys 100% of the shares, and it liquidates the assets, repay the debts it interrupts all income, expenses and operations. What's left? Nothing, except a legal shell, with $ 350,000,000 accumulated tax loss.
My demonstration indicates this shell, even once empty, is still worth $ 70,000,000 for someone who can use the losses.
I do not say that I, personally, would buy 100% of the shares of ASTI. I say that ultimately, if nothing works for ASTI, it remains minimally the value of accumulated tax losses. Everything has a price, and the floor price of ASTI, in my opinion, should never be less than $ 70,000,000 ... which reassures me in the long run of this action.
Shortsqueeze...I do not know. On the stock markets, unfortunately, the financial logic is not always respected or at least not in the short term.
In the medium and long term, logic resumes from above .... Is a shortsqueeze possible, maybe, it depends on many factors that play in the short term ... and I renounced Understand or rather predict the "short term" of the stock market. Maybe the recent rise will cause shortsqueeze and accelerate the rise. Maybe an upcoming news will mingle the cards ... who knows?!?
I invest in a stock for which I believe in its value in the medium and long term. I hope on the other hand a short term gain, like everyone else and take advantage of market imperfections, but if it does not work, I fall back on the medium term. With ASTI, I still hope for a quick gain in the short term. But what reassures me and keeps me from liquidating and taking my losses is the obvious undervaluation of the title right now.
The value of accumulated tax loss is an example, a theory, which serves only to demonstrate the ridiculously low value of the stock currently. Am I disappointed that the title is so low? Yes of course! Would I like it to go up to $ 0.10 in a week? Yes of course! Will I sell at a loss, in panic, if the stock goes down to $ 0.002? Of course not! Even if I managed to find a little more money, I will probably buy back with the same strategy: hope for a short-term gain, as with a lottery ticket and if it does not work, patience ...
Over the last 10 years, ASTI has spent about $ 350,000,000 ... So I guess they have an accumulated tax loss of $ 350,000,000. If the income tax rate is about 20%, the value of this loss alone is $ 350,000,000 x 20% = $ 70,000,000.
If a company buys ASTI and uses this loss on its own income, that company will save $ 70,000,000 in income tax ...
This is only a theory but a company like FSLR that made $ 500 million of pretax profit last year could buy ASTI and save millions of dollars in tax only by using this accumulated loss.
Assuming that all the rest of ASTI's technology is worthless (which I doubt), ASTI is worth at least the value of its accumulated tax losses, at least $ 70,000,000.
I do not know the number of shares actually outstanding but according to the worst quantity mentioned in a previous message, here is the calculation:
$ 70,000,000 / 4,396,404,472 shares = $ 0.016 / share.
Currently, the stock price is 0.0039 $ / shares ... asburde no?
I do not know how much technology developed using hundreds of millions of dollars per ASTI is worth. I do not know how many different patents are held by ASTI and how much they are worth. I do not know how much profit ASTI can make in the next few years. But what I do know is that on the mere value of accumulated tax losses, the stock market value of the shares of ASTI is still heavily undervalued.
Comments?
Everyone is talking about dilution these days ... Is this really the case? It seems that the company is continuously issuing new shares and this is what would explain the recent fall in the share price in recent weeks ... is it really possible?
Does the company not have to complete forms for the SEC and disclose at any time and accurately the number of new shares issued and outstanding.
Are these dilutions just FALSE rumors???