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Bear trap ...lol The MM's are professionals, their job is to make money. Do you really think that Frank Olsen is going to do a damn thing? If and that is a big IF, there actually is manipulation of this stock, wtf is frank gonna do. He will go down with the shp if anything. Just hope all you devouts are ready to do the same.
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Woohooo the train has left the station, Oh wait we're at .0019 not .019
Guess its MM manipulation
It definatley isn't the co.
Frank really means business and it shows
Did someone actually say technicals made a difference in pinks?
LOL... lets watch this for another year.
Maybe we'll get another PR, that shows that frank isn't messing around. All the while he IS the only one making money in this stock.
Damn, I hope I am wrong but, that just seems like a desperate attempt. I have said it before and will continue to say it, I truly believe that we are being taken for a ride. My money is in and gone now. Just seems like as much as we've been through with this stock, should be worth more. So somethings gotta be wrong not a basher just a realist.
I think Frank will be under investigation shortly.
Yeah theoretically thats what happens and it is illegal and would take collusion by all makers for that particular stock. There is no way that all MM's are in collusion to bring QBID down.. IMHO it could be a little of maipulation, some collusion, but more than likely its QBID themselves.
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Oh it's gonna land on my head, I relenquished all trading rules of mine on this one, its past my normal exit and I am definately on the negative side of the fence as far as my feeling for QBID and its management. Some would label me as a basher but I do stand to gain from a rise in PPS I just don't know if I will sell into the first pop to wipe the slate or keep holding for my target exit. If we woulda broken a penny months back I would not be typing right now. My thinking was the law of round numbers. Being a trader, I believed that we were migrating to the penny due to natural trading patterns, and at that point thought we would have support there. But, all of the unknowns in this equation are starting to paint a different picture for this company. Ya know the funny thing is that I agree with you on most of the things that you said in those last two posts, but I cannot be pro-qbid because of the uncertainties and track record, I'm not even sure I should be a shareholder or bag holder is probably the better term. Two definite reasons I should not be playing this. What will be fun is if we can get some life in this stock, instead of the bleed it will be fun to flip around since I have the core built
Did he also say he would give you your money back...lol
I am sorry I screwed you guys over...just hold on...I promise I'll make it up to you. Well if thats the case maybe I should drop 20k in this darling, the only way that will be happening is to bring legitamacy to the financials of QTN and TMM. Investors like myself and perhaps bigger fish will see the opportunity for growth and invest with confidence in QBID. As it stands, the stock looks like a scam, yeah there is tremendous upside but theres always upside when you're a handful of ticks from .0001
Thats is a good post, however, As a responsible leader of this company why do you think that Frank Olsen has not done these things that so many people mention. Obviously the man is not a retard. If this gentleman was so concerned with the state of his pps, he would have done these things. Frank is a carrot dangler and although I think that todays pr was nothing more than fluff to take some of the egg off his face by putting the blame to others it does seem that this intrinsic value would already have speculators chomping at the bit and demand would send pps upward. Right now, the only real explanation is too many shares. There is serious money to be made if this stock fullfills one/third of its potential but will it? I am having my doubts. But good post, and I hope that you are right.
I think that people are starting to get it now. Manipulation does not make sense here and I have agreed with that from the start. Dillution does, and for the reasons being talked about tonight and nights past. It is the only plausible explanation, where it fits what the pps is doing and is not some crazy conspiracy theory. Frank Olsen has no duty to us to raise the pps. He may pledge his allegience but I just don't buy it. This MM's are not manipulating this stock, FRANK OLSEN is manipulating the shareholders and it is very sad, especially those that think this guy is legit.
ROTFL yes very good post. float...I get it hahahahahahaha
I thought so
He's just trying to buy more time with your money.
Yeah man I have been thinking dillution the whole time it's really the only "plausible" explanation, all the other finger pointing is a smoke screen.
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I doubt it's the MM's, he's just lying to everyone, and selling more shares into any buys, its incredible that people are actually still buying these bogus PR's. There is NO REVENUE for this company, and his monthly burn has got to be coming from somewhere. I don't believe a word that this guy says haven't for some time. IT IS MANIPULATION BY FRANK
WTF ever Frank, I don't believe you, and nobody else should. Stop blaming this on someone else. Why don't you come out with an apology PR to the shareholders for you manipulating them and their company. This is the market price for a reason!
Well someone said that after a buy of 12 million shares the stock should go up, You are right it should go up, but obviously there is so many shares right now that even a 12 million block doesn't move this whale. D-I-L-L-U-T-I-O-N Thanks Frank,
Yes indeed the shares are cheap.. They are also worthless. Do you really believe that my posts on this site drive the price down, you are sadly mistaken my friend. I wouldn't touch this thing with YOUR money right now. <Quant>
Well I nominate that post for the "Post of the Day that made no sense" First, were you implying that I am a basher? Second, a trailer park, well I can't speak for everyone. Lastly, with use of the english language and I'll use the term "english" loosely here, what you said was jibberish. I am licensed 3,55,63,7 with the NASD, and what opinions I may have on this stock are my own, if I say it looks like a dog...to me it does. If this thing gains solid ground I will have absolutley no problem reversing my position and playing the trend but for now the trend is down. For anyone to say that this is the natural course of an investment and justify the pps at this point, is dilusional.
Yeah tell them to shove it even if...you are wrong.
He probably still doesn't know what he's talking about, the 7 is so vague it encompasses all things for the securities, it barely touches on pink sheets. It focuses more on options, so he was probably just playing the role.
You can make serious money on these things but they are not investments they are trades. Your freind making good money telling grandma where to put here retirement money? Reg. Reps are glorified insurance salesman.
Firefight are you mentally challenged? Seriously, Are you? On the contrary if an investor that has a risk profile suited for a GOOD pink sheet investment, ya know some companies do report, don't dillute, etc. Then they aren't laughed at and they can make you serious money in the right stock.
Well professionally it his duty to steer you away from investments like this, it probably does not meet your risk profile first of all. Second, it a dog, if he looked at a 52 he could see that. But if he stopped over at IHUB he might change his toon cause things are great in IHUB land we are making so much progress , pod, vod, bs, pos, who f-in cares man show me some pps or o/s
krevata a person with a brain <clap..clap>
Neither I don't think he would waste his time, but there is no way you can sell, most people are down somewhere between 50-70% MOST PEOPLE. Not all before you attack. So do you sell, No I am not, I have relenquished all trading rules on this one the only thing I will sell into is a rally of substance. .003- .004 will it get there, I don't think so. Any person that trades securities will tell you that "The Trend is your freind" trying to cap off runs or bounce bleeds is for the mavericks you get your ass handed to you, occasionally you win you buy the absolute low and sell the absolute high, very rarely. The money is made in the middle between those extremes. Buy...yeah lol there is no way in f-ing hell that a professional would recommend this to anyone.
Yeah from you with your propaganda about Qbid, its a dead issue man, yee of too much faith.
As to all of your post about PR's have they all came true?
Crawl back into your hole Columbo.
Go ahead lead the lambs to slaughter then. Blaming I'm not blaiming anyone 10k cmon now, will you still have your pom poms when you find out the outstanding shares,when the realization is made that "Holy Shit, there is no way in hell this thing is moving." For prides sake I hope that in a couple of years I am not left holding all these shares at .0001 reading about the art of this scam. Hopefully we'll get a pop or two So I can sell into them.
even though I said it could be multiple issues, the stock market is a simple game, supply and demand. Right now the supply HAS GOT TO BE more than the demand.
I hate to keep amending my posts but, are we just waiting for the magical pop. Even if the demand gets Q moving there will be HEAVY SELLING into any upward movement in the PPS. The bad part is that not only will MM, private, public, be selling into any type of rally, you actually have to worry about THIS COMPANY selling into any strength..which is the real sign of weakness.
Most investors aren't technical, most investors can't distinguish B/A from their ass holes. So, being that this is one of the more popular boards for QBID and you are flooding the forum day in and day out you therefore influence others about the state of the company, the stock, its potential, among other things. Right on, I don't get duped by hype, its not myself that worries me, its the novices that will lose on this one. Hopefully this stock comes to fruition and all of us become millionaires but is this likely? Prolly not. QTN very well may grow into a flourishing medium for gltv, with progress made thus far this stock should be valued higher and that is the catch 22, it obviously fundamentally will not trade higher because of outstanding issues with the company be it the share count, the dirty shell, poor business management, misleadng PR's, etc. etc. I know you say that you don't talk about the stock, but are you just a fan of the company???? Or do you want the stock to go up? I am guessing the latter...me too. Realistically though, it's not going anywhere.
Yeah thats funny...
skunks, I really could care less if people scorn me, as a trader I have to play both sides of the fence. You are dangerous to people, becasue people will actually take you for someone with knowledge or "inside information" you will be partialy responsible for the financial misfortunes of others, and your own. Not hatin...just being real. Sorry if I offend you.
To your most people are long here ...bs..I'm about 10k$ long from mid 30's it's just way too late to abandon ship. One I'll probably have to eat
Ya know what really sucks, every person on this board scorns people who raise very valid questions about QBID, labels them as a basher or implies they have an agenda. The hypers are probably more dangerous than the bashers at this point. You people that are hyping this stock up, encouraging people to average down, implying that there is no reason to sell this stock, are completely asinine. You do realize that although you are looked at as do-gooders in this community, NONE of you will be rewarded in the manner that you see fit. If there were millions of dollars to be made ALL of the shares would be gone and prices would skyrocket. Is QTV making progress sure, is the pps moving, and we all know the answer to this one, NO! Why? Well we can assume many things, Is there MM manipulation probably so there is in every stock...its their job. Is it holding this stock back I don't think so, at this point. There really is only one plausible explanation for no movement in PPS, the amount of outstanding shares must be astronomical. The sad thing is that this stock is probably over valued right now. I am not bashing this stock, I own it from reasonable levels but.... is this the time to buy? I really don't think so, as a trader you have to play the momentum and right now the momentum is DOWN.
So do you think we will be red again tommorrow? Probably!
Well I hate to say it but I think I agree with power forward's pessimism. There probably are like 20 billion shares. How else could they fund all this exspansion with no revenue. Private Investors, not likely.
Well after the great reception of the news by the marketon Friday it is definately understood by myself that there MUST be underlying fundamental problems with this company at least finanically. To get your foot in the door with one of the top providers in the country would have boosted this stock to a nickel ONE YEAR AGO. Today there is a different climate, has QBID been issuing shares this whole year I really think that we are in for a jaw dropping suprise if and when these numbers are actually released. There is definately something wrong here, sure there may be MM manipulation, but c'mon negative on the best possible news we could get, hmmmm something just isn't right.
If someone or something keeps making the same mistakes again and again...its not a mistake...its an agenda.
skunks, when the numbers do come out I think our jaws are going to drop. Theres only a few things that can make a stock not move like this and thats probably numero uno. Its like the Q is trying to bench press 10,000 lbs. Impossible. The bad thing is thats only one scenario, there are countless other reasons why this cannot "get upand stay up" MM manipulation, dirty shell, unfullfilled promises, to name a couple, I am long but doubtful.
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