It has become clear why 117,000,000 shares have been withdrawn from the market to clean up the share structure. This convertible debt is truly ugly. Correct me if I am wrong, but the $74,000 note convertible at 58% for .005, a level higher than it is now, results in an approx. 8,500,000 share dilution. So if all the notes were converted, we may be talking tens of millions of shares. Truly painful dilution that will almost certainly result in a 1 for 10 reverse split. This presupposes that a 20 million financing does not happen. And how does the 20 million infusion relate to VNTH? If Nanobeak pays the debt, we may have a fighting chance. In any event, lets have some news from VNTH, for crying out loud. Throw us poor shareholders a bone. For a while I thought SHIZL DIZL was being fatalistic with his 'lather, rinse,repeat' talk. But he may have a valid point. I still think we shareholders should try to use this forum to inform each other and not panic or be consumed by anger about this. Like the rest of you, I am attracted to these penny stocks with good stories for the highly leveraged risk/reward. I have and continue to lose money like the rest of us. I welcome any input from you all.