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My two other BC stocks are both penny stocks
My other Bitcoin stocks are also falling to bottom.
Need BS to return our 513 BCs.
I see. Thanks for explaining
What is margin account?
I don't believe Tom was involved with the scam. Kaliflower's statement makes some sense to me. Tom was a manager, in unpleasant relationship with BS before he became CEO.. Tom didn't 't go to BS directly for the BC and cash right after BS announced the valid BC. He thought he could retrieve the key by thoroughly searching the BC world, and failed.
It is not rare that some technical people are stubborn, don't know when to compromise, and cannot deal with difficult situations.
Shareholders have been questioning the existence of 500+ BC since 2016. Before BS stepped down and Tom became the new CEO, the voice was very loud, louder than now. And more shareholders participated in the request to confirm the existence of the bc at that time. But the voice was ignored by Tom.
Not everybody who wants Tom to recover BC are bashers. I have been holding most of my shares since 0.0002, and my desire of the 500+ to be recovered is strong, but I don't think I am a basher.
That's right.
Hopefully BS still keeps the key book. So far, he has not announced that he lost the key book. The fact that Tom has not been able to recover the key technically does not mean BS does not have the key book, or BS is a liar. Reach him directly and friendly, show him respect, ask for the key book and cash friendly. Maybe he will give it to Tom. If he refuses, take legal actions.
Was it the new CEO's responsibility to retrieve the company assets before the transition was done? Why has the assets transition been done until now, 2.5 years after the CEO transition was over? Was assets transition not the first thing to be done ? I don't believe new CEO had nothing to do with the stealing of the old CEO.
No. What you said sounds horrible. I cannot just ignore past assets. It is much too huge to ignore. If Tom cannot retrieve the asset the company had, do you think he could keep his position? Do you understand what 34 million dollars means to this company and shareholders?
From your opinion, will it be possible for Tom to recover the BC and the cash? Is BS a real liar, and BC and cash don't exist any more or BS is just a person hard to deal with, there is still possibilities for Tom to get the assets back?
I don't care what kind of person BS is, as long as Tom takes all the assets back, I am fine. The physical distance between Tom and BS is not that much compared to about 4 million (bc and cash). The assets of the company weight much more than a round trip flight. Don't call BS a liar yet, talk with him in person, get the key book from him and have experienced people to confirm the key before going back. Don't delay any more with any excuses. The more delay, the harder the work will be for Tom.
Would talk with Kaliflower or Tom's assistant about your way to handle the problems he is facing. Your idea could be helpful to resolve the problems
Disagree with you here. I believe what Kaliflower said is more reasonable . But your push is also necessary reminder for TP to move on to recover the bc and cash. I appreciate your effort.
Agree. The loss is much too huge for us to take. Once the electronic currency production is set straight , TP needs to take care of the BC and the cash which are held by old CEOs. Forgetting assets is not what we will take.
Thanks a lot for communicate with TP for us. I understand it is very difficult for TP to get back the key of BC. I am very grateful for TP for his effort on this issue for us.
I guess that is why GS reported TP to SEC and the company got CE. Shareholders will not just forget past. Loss is too much to ignore.
Do you have communication with TP ? What is his plan or idea about the bc and cash which the company had before he became CEO?
I have no knowledge of bc. Confirmation of key to bc should be much less time consuming and easier than searching for key without any clue. Right?
Is it legal for BS to hold on our BC after he already left the company? He has the responsibility to hand the key book over to TP. Why didn't TP ask BS for the key book? Did BS refuse to give, or TP has never asked for it?
If BS does not give TP the key book, how could TP look for the key ? It's like searching for a needle on the haystack. BS has the responsibility to hand over the key book to TP. But he has not done it in 2.5 years.
Maybe TP can take some loans to take BS to court. TP has financial documents and the communication records with BS about the bc.
Disagree. Let TP focus on his management. We as shareholders can launch a class action against BS first. What negative effects could the class action bring on sp? Over 30 million is not what we can afford to loss.
Wish a class action is taken against BS for the 513 bc. He stole so many bc from us for 2.5 years and against the transitory CEO for the cash. What the 2 old CEOs did to our assets is not acceptable, should be taken to court.
I am willing to participate in the class action. How much is the attorney cost?
Who can take legal actions against BS besides TP on behalf of the company?
I guess TP was not involved in the stealing, He was occupied with electronic currency production issues, and didn't have time and funds to take legal actions previously. But he let shareholders know where the BCs and the cash are. When he has time and funds to take legal actions, he will do it. Maybe the time is coming.
It was horrible that the company has two big thieves. They are too bad to be human.. How could the company allow them to keep the assets of the company after they left ? Cannot believe such kind thing can happen in USA. It must be really difficult for TP to take the company to the current condition.
Cannot wait for TP to take the 2 thieves to court. They are so bad, should stay in jail for the rest life.
Unless BS told GS in writing or vocally the company did not own 513 BC, I don't think GS knows more than us. BS said the company owns 513 BC, GS said no. What was GS's claim based on? The only way for him to believe BS is being shown the key book, so he could confirm the keys are good. Is it possible for BS to show an investor the key book? The only people who can confirm the existence of BC are TP and company finance people.
Will wait to see what action TP will take to get the BCs back or tell us the real situation of the 513 BC, exist or not.
Agree.
We need support TP to get 513 bc back. We need support his work.
Great news
Agree. BS is a bad guy, a man without professional ethics. Tom is a nice CEO.
If Pillsworth has anything to do with the 500+ bc, he would not put it in last financial report in Sep., 2019 and this week. Maybe the statement about bc in this report can act as a push for BS to transfer the 500+ to Tom. If he still does not, Tom will have to take legal actions.
Hopefully, BS is not too old to know what he said in the email about bc. Hopefully, BS knows where he keeps his key book.
Great to know. Thanks for the message.
Saw the "dark or defunct". Can thet be removed after the filing?
Type nasdaq wnbd or octmarket wnbd in google, and then search. You will see websites. I don't see "stop" sign there
Then why did you get few millions at 15s?
I don't see the stop sign in otcmarket and nasdaq.
I see. Thanks
I thought the end of March is the deadline for the filing.
So there will not be news release tomorrow? I have an appointment tomorrow all the day, and I am concerned that I may miss crucial moment if I keep the appointment because people said news release will be at the end of March.
If the key holder leaves the world by then, the 500+ bc will be gone forever.
Can we do something to give TP support to ask BS for the key ? For example, sign a request of shareholders, so TP can show BS how shareholders want the assets back?
The report in Sep, 2019 said BS has the key. All TP need to do is to ask him for the key. Old people can die any time with the COVID-19. TP should not wait for BS to take our shareholders 32millions away with him any more. BS should give the key to TP right away if he has any professional ethics. It is a crime and big shame to steal so much from shareholders.
The last report said the company has other bitcoins whose key is missing, will try to recover them gradually.
Agree, We need let him know we are not forgetting that 500+ bc.
Is it common in US, a CEO takes away all the company asset when he leaves his position? In 2018, 500+ bc was all the assets the company had. It is a serious crime to steal 32 million dollars from a company. How could the company ignore it for 3 years?