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Holman gets a raise and a 100k bonus, what a hack...
they lost me here, net loss gap has closed since last quarter. thats great news, bu t...
it would be one thing if they asked to issue shares after agreeing to terms to acquire store, but they keep asking for more money and more shares with no acquisition in hand. i'd be fine with diluting for the sake of adding stores at market value because that would strengthen the brand and add online sales, but asking for authority to increase shares with nothing "in hand" is wrong. im letting my shares ride out from here, ill buy again the moment they are profitable.
yikes, i dont see how that is in the officers's interest to dilute that much
im guessing we aren't getting the earnings release tomorrow or maybe the call is next week...
i don't need all of the details, but how much will this stock be diluted? you can just give me the theory. will people hold the options (option 3) for 5 years?
im just trying to conceptualize what percentage of the units will be exercised and when? will 80% of these be exercised in January? we have 6 mill shares outstanding, what is the max this will be diluted as a result of this offering? again, im just looking for opinions, etc.
thanks all for input
they would actually be better served abandoning distribution and acquiring stores. we can't compete in the distribution space...
so how many stores does 22 million buy us? it said a full round of funding would use 22 million for that purpose.
vapor franchises cost $100k to open, but somehow Vaporin cost a lot more. they say they ""will expand 20-30 by year end" do people take that as additional plus our current 10/11?
more likely right. it may be two quarters at the earliest before they are profitable. once you see the store counts rising you should hop in and approaching profitability hop in...
last i checked, we are still probably losing around 3 million a quarter in SG&A. its nice that we raised capital, but I calculated we need something like 20-25 stores AND/OR really strong online sales to get there. we will get there, but in time (2016)...
the comment period for FDA ends in August
this is frustrating, i just looked it up- the new opening has been on their website for months. they were lying. they only had 9 stores open Q2. these guys are so sleezy...
so its something like above $4 at anytime time in the next 6 mths for straight ten days, they automatically convert?
so when it gets around that time convert them basically if i am in it for the long haul?
new store right next to Subway! it said they were opening 2 in the next three weeks. i expect the next one will open the following week.
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.3044172,-81.423433,3a,75y,182.42h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m4!1sWjw63tLqmYq_VSGItwmXGQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4b1!6m1!1e1
all joking aside, its a nice piece of real estate in a big corner unit. i like that its not in a cheap strip mall (albeit it is located amongst them)
hopefully the franchise model is ready to go after the meeting friday. the roll up strategy should work well if you are an operator.
it makes more sense to pay people in shares or a mix of shares/cash, then they will (a) open more stores as a franchisee AND/OR (b) they buy stock in the company to get a piece of online sales
can you explain further option 3?
you are the man ChuckBits! I think got in this pirate ship at the same time...
i really think we are approaching the bottom here, i think its largely up from here after next quarters earnings with Vaporin fully baked in. We have been waiting for next week for a long, long time.
franchise model is going to be contagious when people can open up a franchise and get a piece of online sales (which should be gaining steam by start of 2016). it would be nice to acquire 5-10 stores before year end.
this is way over my head, i just toss a few bucks at this once a month to average down. I figure the VPCOU is a good play since I am long (i feel like such a scrub everytime i say that about VPCO lol). I have fidelity, so in theory, how do i convert these down the road?
Or do I just hang on to these and something will happen automatically?...
thanks for any opinions
Well i got my 50 ceremonial units in fear of missing out, looking forward to the call next week
nevermind, its right there in plain english...
how long do you have to exercise the warrants?
its their site, they have their house brand of juices and retail other companies' products...
the FDA regulations are supposed to come out this month at the latest, correct?
that will create some action, i'm still a little skeptical at the 20 to 30 more stores in the calendar year. i wish they would open the two more first, we are already past the midpoint in the year...
what do the warrants consist of? how many shares?
thevapestoreonline.com
still have to have a longterm time horizon if you want to make this work...
i feel like they have some rich friendlies that funded the offering that probably arent that longterm. i wish they did offerings to fund a few stores at a time. unless they are going to buy up a chain fast. first franchise location probably isnt going to open up until 2016. ill buy small amounts along the way, but i dont expect to see the big jump soon
regained NASDAQ compliance, yet tanked. a day of two tales...
i have learned so much from owning VPCO, i am becoming a dividend investor LOL.
In it for the long haul...
Anyone have an idea what this means? Quickly funded, do these people get a sweetheart deal on call options? That's my amateur assumption...
we are best of breed, but that means little so far...
isn't it a 10 day "cure" period? i assume we are ok, but still a "bad student" in the class. we are scraping the bottom of the barrel, no rose colored glasses distort the view of what is happening...
Interesting to see where this goes, an offering that is bigger than the market cap...
Out of whack
Interesting to see where this goes, an offering that is bigger than the market cap...
Out of whack
im just posting a simple web estimate, knowledge is power. we still haven't seen numbers with the merger fully baked in.
Mom and Pop shops aren't going to make it. It takes a lot of money to develop a good online platform.
It means something...
Thevapestoreonline.com has received an estimated 67,900 visits over the last 30 days.
I think the answer to all this is that it "depends"
Earnings is next month, all Vaporin/Vape Store/Vapestoreonline.com earnings will be baked in. Last quarter's Non-pro-forma set a low bar. They are going to have small offerings until this turns profitable at some point in a few quarters. Look at Vape Store margins in the prospectus, plenty of time before the space gets crowded. Online traffic is growing rapidly. They didn't pursue a Nasdaq listing just for kicks
back into the trend lines
It's a 10 day period and then our stock is "cured" and can stay on Nasdaq correct?
It says in the prospectus, 2 more stores in the next 3 weeks
ya, need to see Q2 earnings to see if how the SG&A line looks after the merger. i saw that Michael Brauser's firm loaned $400,000k, so that means Frost and crew are still involved.
i'm a little confused as well, are they allowed to issue the remaining balance 150,000,000 shares or does that revert to 30,000,000 after the recent stock split?
im interpreting it as they are going with private placements to build up institutional ownership, but sh*t will hit the fan if the clauses about going under $1 are triggered.
i agree on some level, but the margins are still there. mom and pop shops don't have scale and don't have the infrastructure to sell online soon. there is going to be another supply crunch, but if you have scale you will survive. they need to get out of florida though, that state seems like it is loaded with shops. maybe start moving up to atlanta or texas...
what makes me nervous is their retail distribution, im not sure if they are winding it down or if they just going to cut it off soon and pursue the retail shops.
Lol that's when we are dead and we have no hope to hold onto anymore. We are about a month away from earnings, the Vaporin numbers will be baked in. I'm expecting a pleasant earnings report though.
No more Kavanaugh "advertising" expenses and the website looks like it has doubled traffic. If you look at the operational reports we should be arriving at better margins. We failed to open 4 stores last quarter, only 2. I expect the newly raised capital will go towards opening 3-5 stores in Q3
Although yet to see proof how profitable they are
I think that Vape shops are profitable and online tailwind helps, people need a physical location to get their fix. This stuff can't wait in the mail.
Vapor shops are sprouting up everywhere. As long as online sales are legal, I like this stock's chances. I wish they would speed up the franchising model to expand. I think we have a few years before online sales will be in regulatory jeopardy.
Lol I bought some ceremonial shares this morning, not got good if you are a current shareholder...
I'm holding a few shares at 9.50, oh wait $47.50 now...